Not the end of the world you are thinking, but the old flat-world theory about the horizon ^^

I need some c&c about the waterfalls, are they ok? Do they look like waterfalls? (the right side of the image)



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(pacience to read what i write, english is not my main lenguage)


Edited by Ails - 17 February 2008 at 2:35pm

Yep, water is more like ice. Use lil bit more green color to water and it could look better. Yes, and make the all water go down. :)

The water still looks like ice. The angles should be smooth and not come to a point.

if there's a LOT of water then it's not just gonna fall straight down.  Think of any other object.  Let's say you have a ball on a table, if you push it gently and it slowly rolls to the edge of the table, it'll fall right down.   But if you apply more force it'll project and land further away. 


Granted this isn't anywhere near close to an actual projectile since I did it in 2 minutes on a laptop.  But you get the point. 
SO is the edge of the world gonna have a  LOT of water (as in oceans) pouring over the side with great force, or be like a little stream that just falls straight down off the edge?   Seeing as there's a ship in the picture, I'll assume it's the first option.

NOW is where you get to look at refs.  Your lowest part of the water is the darker color.  This is wrong.  When in the air, the water breaks apart into drops.. that's not a good way to explain it, but still - it turns white.  not clear with a bluish/greenish tint.  White.. with a bluish/greenish tint.

PICS!



Note how the water in mid air is WHITE and how it pushes away from the edge.

now this one is a less 'powerful' example, but it shows well what happens to the water in midair.


Now Kira is right in that the water falls in pretty straight lines.  But it doesn't mean that the lines have to be all absolutely vertical, and ALL perfectly parallel.  




(Physics. It works, bitches.)

The moon is beautiful!

Forgot to tell, i have a pallet limitation of 16 colors. I cant add a more realistic effect to the water (i wanted to make it semi-transparento to show the sea bottom under it)

@leel
If you could show me some pixel reference of a waterfall, i would apreciate it, cuz my skills dont allow me to make a white/light blue waterfall, without making if look flat


Edited by Ails - 17 February 2008 at 3:16pm

Uh nice post...
Im not pro, thats why im here ^^ thanks for all your comments, they will not only be useful now, but in future works too im sure. I see some works here with awesome palletes, i think how can they find so perfect colors, i cant do that
Dont expect me to make the ultimate piece, what you see here is pretty much the final work (although, i ll work on the pallete and the dragon)
About the dragon's body, he is like entering the water and then coming out. But i see your interpretation, i work on that too
Thx for all the help ;)

No one is pro.

Ok.. so some people here are pretty freakin pro, but.. that's beside the point.

The main thing I wanted to get across is that art is work.  You need to actively go LEARN about colors and composition and things like that, be it through books or tutorials or just studying the pieces we have in the PJ hall of fame.

The absolute worst thing you can do is say "I'm new, I can't do this yet."
NO EXCUSES

If you get in the mindset that something is out of your league, that you'll just get around to learning the color theory later, you will stall yourself. 

Your goal is to do the absolute best you can do.  That means you have to experiment, think, observe, read, and most importantly practice until your hands fall off.    Don't just settle for "it's pretty good for a newbie"

You'll be surprised at what you can do, if you just keep at it.  I'm always so reluctant to take crits, because I think 'well.. I made it this way on purpose'  and 'but I wanted it to look this way'  and it's totally fine if you feel this way too  (which I know you do, because you wanted the water to be dark at the bottom)

Well, you can keep thinking that, but go ahead and take the critique anyway.  Listen to what other people are saying, get many opinions and try to test them all out.  Sure, sometimes people might be wrong and your original version may be better, but you don't know that until you try.  

Don't limit yourself, just because you're new.

Argh.  Another freaking long post. Someone shut me up already.

Calm down, im doing some changes now, i finally decided to try to make that more white water =/ but i think ill have problems to keep the pallete limit