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Quote Ricki Replybullet Topic: Cartoon tree
    Posted: 29 April 2008 at 4:16am
I've already submitted this piece but I wanna know your opion to this...
I used it for a tutorial at one czech pixelart page. Imo it isn't too bad but I am just poor pixeartist who is learning, yet.
So what do you think about this?

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2008 at 9:07am
Colors are good, credits for you. yet the desing may be a bit weak. Consider that a 'Cartoon' feel means that you are an exageration of the element's features, yet it still preserves part of the original proportions of the main subject. in this case, the trunk size is really unbalanced compared to the top part of the tree. you can still keep the same 'cartoony' apearance if you increase this part and give it more credibility, instead of the current wich looks more like some sort of nuclear explosion.

I'm sure you have seen some cartoons, so might be a good idea to view them again and take some ideas from these.
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Quote Ricki Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2008 at 10:31am
Thank you very much for your long comment and critics...I didn't understand some words but mainly I understood the substance. I will try to edit it by your critics (height of top part and I will add some leaves and possibly "credibility")....Overall thanks once again
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Quote Ricki Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2008 at 2:16am
New version, I edit top part to a little bigger and also I change that ground, imo it's still too pillow shaded ... Do you think it's better?


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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:03am
Hi Ricki,

The main thing that will work is a light source.
It is outside so either the sun or the moon lights up
your tree. From the bright color I would say it is
the sun.
If it is the sun then the light will be coming from above.
So the lightest color should move to the top of the
tree. Direct below the leaves it will be dark so the
trunk should be dark at the top.

That will remove some of the pillow shading I think ...

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Quote Ricki Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:34am
Thanks for advices, M.E. I hope I will make out it 'cause it's totally makes me sad when I try it for fifth time.....
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Quote Lazy Kat Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2008 at 7:07pm


I think this may illustrate M.E.'s point?
An extremely rough n' dirty edit.
Also; don't enslave yourself to the 'lines'. Trees are chaotically organic. Leaves all over the place, branches, bark, all that. Lines reign it in and take away from the treeness of it.


Of course, there are still some lines, mostly on the darker side of the image. I changed them to a dark green, to make them a little less stark.

I also copied the branch and put it behind the tree in that bare section, since the branch being on the denser side of the tree was a little unbalanced. Not saying it's unrealistic; being chaotically organic, many trees care little for natural aesthetics. But if you're going to pixel it, no harm a few idealizations :).
Speaking of tree shape, maybe it could lend some insight to look up bonsai? There are a few guidelines for the medium on proper tree shaping, since bonsai is a highly technical and aesthetic work. Many of the principles could easily filter through in pixel work :).

http://www.bonsaisite.com/techniq1.html (scroll to the bottom for links on different styles)
http://www.bonsaisite.com/gallery1.html (gallery from the same site, could be informative!)
http://www.bonsaiprimer.com/styles/styles.html


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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2008 at 7:25pm
what lazykat did, but less "detailed".

considering you want a cartoony style.
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Quote Ricki Replybullet Posted: 05 May 2008 at 12:59pm
Lazy Kat: I wanted to do similliar image like you but when I changed the shape there was a problem with shading. I had an imagine that I could only indicate the shade with dark colour but how I said I could make it out....
If it won't mind to you, I will use your image like tutorial and something like that...
I will edit shape a little, shape and ground under tree too...Anyway thanks a lot...
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