don't worry everyone i know enough about how to do this now. so thanks to all you helped or at least though or tried to help me.


Edited by x-death - 14 December 2008 at 6:28pm

If you show an example of your attempts, we could break down what you're doing wrong, that is if you're doing anything wrong at all. 

You start by drawing some thing, and than shifting the HUE!

For example, you draw something with the upper palette

and end up with the lower palette because you shifted the hue!

First step: DRAW SOMETHING!
we will do the next step together ok?

Go find a tutorial on listening to what people are telling you.

Read that a couple times.

x-death, Lollige posted a great example of hue shifting, and from it you should be able to answer some of your questions, at least vaguely - so please don't act like he's done nothing at all.

However i will clarify for ya, because i can see how people aren't specifically touching on your points.



Starting from a midtone would probably be the way to go, since you're new to it. However when you come more accustomed to hue-shifting you'll see you really can start from any point on your colour ramp. Red going directly into green or a lot of green going into red only right at the end of the ramp in the shadows, for example.



I personally do it as i'm choosing colours while pixelling. Sometimes i will exaggerate the palette with a filter to see whether i would like a stronger certain tone in the piece though. When hue shifting, try not to look so much at the colours values as much as the colours themselves on your screen (as long as your screen is properly configured).



You will need to change more than just the hue in hueshifting, since you are also dealing with shadow and highlight tones. Typically, a shadow will have lower saturation than a highlight. Also some hues will appear brighter on the screen at certain luminances than others (yellow for example, in comparison to blue) and so when hueshifting you should take that into account, and fix any contrast issues that are created.



This completely depends on how dramatic you want the hueshifting to be. I personally enjoy subtle hueshifting that is not really noticeable on first glance. It's enough to add life to otherwise plain ramps, but not too much to be negatively noticeable. So yes, it depends entirely on the situation. Trial and error will always help.


Hope that helps you! Any more questions, just ask.


Edited by Larwick - 09 December 2008 at 8:54pm

skamocore:
um ok, thanks i think...
larwick:
ok so i know what to do with tones and such. how ever i know know that i have to change, hue, lum and sat values in order to hue shift but my question is would it be better to just use those normal three values (meaning hue, lum and sat) to get my colors or should i change the rgb values to get them?

because i know you should choose them according to eye but sometimes knowing these things can be good as well...and as for values i take it there aren't really any set values you increase or decrease by? i always thought there would have been though...

and i know he was trying to help and it probably was helpful stuff but to a complete beginner like me that doesn't have as much skills as all of you well it doesn't really mean as much when questions weren't answered directly. see using it as an example at the end yeah sure. but when nothing was answered it really mean't very little.

Please, as I said before, DRAW SOMETHING!

That will be step 1

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU DRAW, but I would prefer if it would not be black and white, and if it was not a grass tile.


Not a random circle, but draw something.
For this example a nail or so was used, but what you draw can be even a lot smaller.


If you did draw something, only than we are going to help you further ok?

sorry guys i should have posted something from the massive list of practicing sprites i was doing. while you were all posting.
well i whipped this together shows you my current skills. i didn't look at the values at all i just made a color ramp and moved the lum value up a bit every time.



i put this together its suppose to be an alien spike not sure just how well i did that but is this enough for you guys or do you need me to make something else?

i think it is ok. but see i just can't seem to get the tones right. it all looks like the same tone when i use it and it appears being horrible. that is the main problem now.

you guys have any suggestion which could help my selections?

even edits of mine may help


Edited by x-death - 12 December 2008 at 9:53pm

In my opinion you know enough of hue shifting you need to know now, so you can continue with more serious drawings and implement your knowledge in there.

I just wrote a long thing in another thread that had a short stint involving hue shifting.

Edited by Evilagram - 20 January 2009 at 1:52am