Pixel Joint Forum: Scartus City: WIP

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So there we go, the first thing I've put up.

This didn't take that long...

Messed up the highlighting on the rader I know...

Very hard to do curves x.x;

Anyways... The house shall expand into a Village!... Then a Town!....then a City!.... it get's exploded by a big bomb ^^ .... jsut said that outloud.... >,>;;;;; Lol. Nah jus' kidding.

Tell me what ya think though...

Edit1: Aye...ye just found thou ye putfile.com doesn't work....ye.... 

Edited by Sythius

WIP (Work In Progress)
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Topic: Scartus City: WIP Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:07pm
	So there we go, the first thing I've put up. This didn't take that long... Messed up the highlighting on the rader I know... Very hard to do curves x.x; Anyways... The house shall expand into a Village!... Then a Town!....then a City!.... it get's exploded by a big bomb ^^ .... jsut said that outloud.... >,>;;;;; Lol. Nah jus' kidding. Tell me what ya think though... Edit1: Aye...ye just found thou ye putfile.com doesn't work....ye.... Edited by Sythius
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:08pm
	Sorry dude, all i see is a red X.

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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:11pm
	It's edited now.. ^^ Damn photobucket -.-;.... not as good as putfile...
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:15pm
	The dithering just makes it look dirty. I'm trying to find you a tutorial on how to pixel metal. Also, try bringing down how bright the windows are.
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:16pm
	Dithering? I didn't dither any of it 0,o Did it all by hand..I mean mouse.
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:21pm
	Dither is a pixel by pixel technique. It's used to make it appear as if there are more colours used then there actually are in a peice.
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:24pm
	Ok....oh...your talking 'bout the satelites dithering?... Yeah...it is bad.. Everything else was dithered though. Just...as I said...curves are hard... [I thought dithering is when you use a prog to put random pixels over the place... mroe or less like a jpeg does...] Edited by Sythius
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 3:49pm
	Here's the slightly more updated one, The path has been continued... and I have added a TeleSpire ..Pretty neat huh? [Sorry for the bouble post...jsut if I added and edited the other post, it would seem mroe linked..but I didn't want that... So I decided to seperate it from the other post]
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 4:30pm
	those shadows are off. your lightsource is coming from the left and your shadows are going down. looks like you just did a black copy of the buildings and set opacity. they should be facing down and to the right and be at about 30% the size of the buildings.
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 11:34pm
	Dude, how do you know where I got my light source? [the sun] and if ya didn't know depending on where the sun is, changes how long, and where the shadow are.. So my shadow are correct, And I actually redrew the sahdow, didn't sue the building or anything, if youlook at it, it's off to the right abit, the sun is really low, that's why the shadows are big.
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 04 July 2006 at 11:49pm
	Then why is the left side of your buildings highlighted? By the looks of it your light is coming from the top left corner. If that's the case, then light would not strike that wall.
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:33am
	The colour of the buildings are white....not gray..:P
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:41am
	You really should redo the dish.. It looks all mashed up and stuff.

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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:51am
	I am aware of that, and i would probally do that at a later date.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:58am
	I am somewhat on the urge of restarting the city... Cus I've changed how I do my buildings abit... and now I feel restricted to do it in the way I currently have been xD Anyhows...This is how far I have gotten before the urge of change o' skill...
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 1:30pm
	The shadows of your bulidings are off, as ensell said. They should be going to the right. With shadows directly below the buildings, it looks like the grass is a reflective surface like a mirror. I'd fix up the shadows. Also, no dither is necessary on iso pieces as souly said. Usually you don't use dither. Some of your lines are wonly and your buildings have no highlights. I'd suggest zoggle's iso tut but unfortunately it's not up now. Just examine other iso pieces. Browse The Joint for a bit.
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 1:48pm
	Though you say the buildings must be white on those sides because they are white, you can actually use near-white colors to shade white. Reference (Courtesy of my cluttered and messy hard drive):
	RPG is numberwang.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:09pm
	Meh.....
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:14pm
	You've got to learn to accept C&C. You're not going to get any better if you just keep shrugging it off.
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:56pm
	was gonna comment and help you but... meh...
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Di0xygen Commander Joined: 03 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 401	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:05pm
	Meh.. seen better
	c==3
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CDI Commander Joined: 30 October 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 4:35pm
	this seems like a job for people that care! Damn, none of that around here, if you don't want c&c then GTFO & Don't Ask
	Coders of tomorrow
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 05 July 2006 at 11:35pm
	Omg, you lot no nothing 'bout me, I didn't shrug it off when I said 'Meh...' I was just lazy ar the time. if I was shrugging the stuff of you would of heard me say 'no' or 'nah' -.-
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 9:40am
	"Meh.." sort of implies not caring and being lazy. And chances are, if you are lazy about improving something, you probably don't care. Instead of arguing about how much we know you or stating how lazy you are, how about you direct that energy to improving your piece. You asked for critique when you posted it here. If you didn't think you needed improvement, you wouldn't have bothered to ask. It's pretty rude to ask for something and then refuse to take it when people have gone to the trouble of giving it to you. There are plenty of other people on this board with less replies who'd be more thankful for the help.
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 9:44am
	Stop your posting spree!! Anyway - WTF?!?

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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 10:08am
	*Originally posted by Sythius* Dude, how do you know where I got my light source? [the sun] and if ya didn't know depending on where the sun is, changes how long, and where the shadow are.. So my shadow are correct, And I actually redrew the sahdow, didn't sue the building or anything, if youlook at it, it's off to the right abit, the sun is really low, that's why the shadows are big. Ok, apparently you dont know what a lightsource is. you have a light side of the building and a darker. the lighter side is where the light is coming from, and the shadows are saying that the sun is coming from another angle. but hey, your art sucks right now and since you cant take c&c at all it seems, it will always be like that perhaps you should consider another art medium. perhaps a coloring book and crayons?
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 12:32pm
	Guys, try to tone down a little. He may be an arse but let's not start a flaming war.

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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 1:33pm
	I said meh, cus I was to lazy at the time, Cus I was to lazy at the time, I couldn't be bothered to thank the dude for the tips. [sarcasm]Oh, and thanks Ensillitis, that really inspires me to continue! :) [/sarcasm]
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alkaline Commander Joined: 25 August 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 868	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:33pm
	You guys are so cold and unforgiving when it comes to helping out.....geez..yeah, so he's new around here, not everyone grows up around getting critique from people, you have to get used to it... this is no way to encourage art. Art is fun, so let's keep it that way yay!
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:36pm
	There's something 'bout that building that's wrong... Could you lot help me, find it, and tell me the remedy to it, thanks :)
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:44pm
	If your light is hitting the left side of the building, then shouldn't the shadow be coming from the left wall?
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 06 July 2006 at 11:23pm
	I've given up doing shadows for now xD
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Draco9898 Midshipman Joined: 22 April 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 3:19am
	The outlines are too 'hard' make them a lighter hue that corresponds to the color they're next to
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 4:24am
	...eh? Edit1: I have redone the building and changed a few things... Hopes ya lot like it. Oh and could ya lot please rate it out of 10 and tell me if ya like it?..... thanks. :) I dunno how to make the black vents and aerial, have a more 3d look...with out it looking like it's a diff colour...if ya know what I mean... x.x; Edited by Sythius
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 5:45am
	simple. put a dark bluegrey colour on te lighter places. in real life black objects become greyish too when the light hits it. we here dont do ratings, though this one is positively better. the shading of this building is tenfold better, seeing as it is actually shading that is correct with the lighting direction. i would suggest getting rid if the white highlights inder the red pipes(?) because it makes it look like the wall sticks out further then the pipes, which isnt true and the door doesnt need that lighter edge on it IMHO. neither do the windows. and for the linearts i dont really have a comment, they are good, maybe could use some people to spruce it up though
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 6:09am
	Ok, I'll remove the highlights near the pipes.
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 6:18am
	Which is better?
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 6:44am
	I'm going with top - there's highlight on those black boxes.. but loose the black outlines.

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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 6:48am
	The vents [black boxes] in both pics actually have highlights....
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 8:08am
	a quick and simple edit
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:09am
	You've simplified it :o
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:39am
	*Originally posted by Sythius* You've simplified it :o usually the buildings themselves are simple in iso. Details are what makes it less simple, IMO anyway. I don't think anyone is flaming Sythius. We're trying to give him crits and he keeps dismissing them with excuses or sarcasm. It's rude and when you give rudeness, you should expect some back. Especially when you're asking for help from a community you haven't been very active in. Edited by Aleiav
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:03am
	Grrrrrr. All he did was edit it, And I put my opinion 'bout what he did to it. God, I can't say a thing with out someone saying I dismiss crits is some way or the other.
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:34pm
	Why are you getting so angry? All we're trying to do is help you. Of course snader just edited it. He's not going to do your work for you. 90% of the time, you don't seem to listen to the suggestions we give you and it's frustrating. We give you what we think you should do to the building, for example, take out the dithering, fix the shadow on the grass, etc. and you respond with excuses like my shadows are correct, i can't do curves, meh, i've given up on doing shadows. Everything we throw at you to try and help you you either make an exuse for or ignore completely. Just read your posts or reread our suggestions. We've given you plenty of suggestions already to improve. Instead of saying you can't do something, how about trying to do it first?
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Sythius Midshipman Joined: 03 July 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:49pm
	Well how would I know if I can't do something if I aint tried it?... That one kinda back fired, on ya didn't it?
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:57pm
	No, not really. You're the one who said you couldn't do things. I never said you couldn't improve, you did. So your statement backfired on you, not me. You don't know you can improve unless you try. You haven't tried. You've given excuses so... try. Edited by Aleiav
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 3:32pm
	Sythius, please accept Aleiav's comments, you haven't been the easiest guy to work with so far, so let's realise that and get onto updating your piece, yes? If you keep trying to make this some kind of argument, or wont accept people's critisism, i'll lock the thread, because there's no point in it then. ~

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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 07 July 2006 at 7:47pm
	wth? i didnt simplify! i even gave it more detail! it has a doorknob yay! what idi i simplify?
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