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Quote Stonepunsh Studio Replybullet Topic: [Rev Share] JUSTICIA - a serious project
    Posted: 31 July 2018 at 2:31pm
You are a pixel artist and a serious passion project with unique idea is what you are looking for? Then our project is the right one for you.



Project name: Justicia - the rule of law
Team size: 5
My skills: Team Manager, Marketing, Game Design, Programming
Project length: about the end of 2019
Payment: Rev Share

Role required: Pixel Artist

Skills we need:
Fervor
At least about a year experience
A similar style to the style of the mockup of the game

Time required: approx. 4-5 hours per week

What can we offer:
a game idea with real commercial potential
a very friendly team
a fair rev share (Rev Share Agreement if necessary)

Game Idea:
You want a game which is really intense and exciting in the puzzle genre and with a unique setting? Than the job as judge is exactly what you are looking for. You need to make hard moral choices and combine statements and proofs to draw your own conclusions and all of that in the tense setting of a dictatorship in a Mexico similar country. Forget about your fear and make your country a better place, whether you choose government or rebellion! Decide on the development of your country in the PC game JUSTICIA! (More information in our recent GDD: https://goo.gl/AA5jqg)

Contact: stonepunsh.studio@gmail.com

You can find more information about the game on our unfinished website: https://stonepunshstudio.wixsite.com/stonepunsh-studio/the-law-of-justice

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 31 July 2018 at 5:31pm
I'm willing to advice anyone to work for a promise of payment from a project with a relase date so far into the future, mainly for two reasons:

1) with such a long development time nothing prevents you from dropping this kind of assigment somewhere inbetween in favor of something that actually pays you for your work and (unless the devs respect the amount of work you already invested into the game) deny you your share of the theoretical profits.

2) you should not work for a promise of payment and risk not getting paid at all. it is as bad as getting paid with "free advertisement".
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Quote Stonepunsh Studio Replybullet Posted: 31 July 2018 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Metaru

I'm willing to advice anyone to work for a promise of payment from a project with a relase date so far into the future, mainly for two reasons:

1) with such a long development time nothing prevents you from dropping this kind of assigment somewhere inbetween in favor of something that actually pays you for your work and (unless the devs respect the amount of work you already invested into the game) deny you your share of the theoretical profits.

2) you should not work for a promise of payment and risk not getting paid at all. it is as bad as getting paid with "free advertisement".


Hi sir,
First thank you for warning other more unexperienced game dev newbies to jump on high risk projects. Of course our project is still risky but I try to explain why it is worth it.

1) I never said that we don't respect paying a person for the already done work even if he leaves the project. BTW this point seams pretty copied from other posts because offering a Rev Share Agreement which you can write with us is the highest risk taker we can offer.

2) Both programmers in our team are industry professionals and our writer studied creative writing. Why do they join such a project? Because they love the idea and are passioned about it. Their main reason to help is not the money at all. And that should be the case for our new artist too. And your second point doesn't make sense at all because in a Rev share project you have the chance to get money (the chance can be higher or lower depending on the risk takers) and in a free advertisement project you never have the chance to get money at all.

I understand that you try to warn the users asap but you decreased our chance to find someone in this forum heavily without even giving us the chance to explain more.

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2018 at 1:25am
You could always just pay someone so they don't have to worry about taking risks to pay they bills. The only reason I can think of these industry profesionals in your team to be working for a share of the chance of your game being published and commercially sucessful is either because they're your friends and/or they're not profesionals. at all. if this was a real initiative with serious intentions the first thing you'd look for is to build a budget and work around it to get funding. if you or your team doesnt have the money to do so then you take the risk and/or the time to work 4-5 hours a week to develop the graphics of your project.

if anyone still feels like joining this for the sake of experience, go ahead. but chances are you might get the same ammount of experience just working on your own stuff or even better, getting paid for it.
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Quote Stonepunsh Studio Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2018 at 8:47am
Both programmers joined our project through a application process like this one so they weren´t my friends. But i think someone who works in a 60+ person studio must have enough skill/experience to be called a professional. ^^ It may sound a bit strange to you, but there are still people who do something out of passion and as a hobby. And you dont need to have a budget for serious intensions dude. The best time to take others money is never. And of course you get not more experience by joining the project but isn´t it more exciting to see a project grow and to have people to work and communicate with? So like you may have noticed the whole thing is about passion. If you dont have passion for your hobby/the project you are defently wrong in every (Rev Share) Team.
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Quote DawnBringer Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2018 at 10:01am
[Rev Share] is NOT paid, remove it from the title. [Paid] means you pay out of pocket.
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Quote Stonepunsh Studio Replybullet Posted: 02 August 2018 at 6:08am
Originally posted by DawnBringer

[Rev Share] is NOT paid, remove it from the title. [Paid] means you pay out of pocket.

I changed it. I saw an other post with [Paid] (Rev Share) so I did it the same way. Sorry about that.
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