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Quote Drea Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:23am
is tile 78 available?
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 1:10am
Originally posted by Sazdx

Finished tile 52, I think!
Any comments or suggestions :3?



That's a well done tile, but there's nothing medieval about it? Just add something that fits the theme too. :)
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 1:16am
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Originally posted by Something Fishy






Alright so remember how I said before that the dirt in front of the grave was still not isometric? That is because it is not using those 2.1 grid lines. The base shape of everything you do in this style is based on that, so therefore it is best to use as many guides and grids as possible, otherwise it looks like its falling off the canvas. I believe your tombstones are too thin, they have a cardboard appearance and especially the medieval period was associated with massive slabs of stone.

In my edit I also show how you can use a grid to make the base of the tree. What is the paper next to the tree?
I would also add that your tile is a bit noisy thanks to the grass. I would perhaps suggest making the next-darkest shade of green the base color instead? You can also take a look at how Krugelix simplified the grass in their tile. You're making progress though!


Every critique from before still stands Fishy, did you miss this? The graves are still not isometric.

@Cloud: Happy you're still workin on it! I still want to say that there's too many diagonal lines, like in Fishy's tile. I did an edit of the signs to show it. Even if its pointing down those 2.1 pixel lines are what sell the perspective so they're important. The more they reappear in your tile the more you're selling your work as fully isometric. Same with the grass border if those lines were isometric it would help the tile tremendously!




@Gawrone: I say keep the fork! It adds character.

@Mirre: Love the cat attack! Stunning tile
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:13am
Originally posted by Drea

is tile 78 available?


not yet, its neighbor is being worked by thrillhouse. Can I give you another tile with a completed neighbor?
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:23am
Not working out so well with #59, I'm a bit stuck. I'd like to give it up for now and claim #21 instead as I have a better idea there.

@Reo: Thanks! :)



WIP of tile #21:
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 5:54am
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WIP of tile #21:

Haha lovely! That was among my ideas as well.


Early wip. While Halmet is obviously written in the end of the 1500s, Amleth the original danish prince is a medieval character so I think it counts :)
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Quote Something Fishy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 6:10am
@Reo sorry I haven't had the time to keep up with all the forum feed, I have only been skimming them whenever I check on forums. I'll look more carefully when I check now.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 7:08am
Alright, I think I'm pretty much done 15.



Inspired by the big head guy in 'Christ in Limbo'
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Follower_of_Jheronimus_Bosch_Christ_in_Limbo.jpg
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 7:28am
I'd like to claim 92 if I'm allowed?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 8:10am
Originally posted by cjlm123

I'd like to claim 92 if I'm allowed?


Yes you are, do you know how to make the border tiles? The first page (rules message) has some examples on it.
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 8:23am
@cjlm123: Super cool, eerie tile! Maybe the border to #22 is a bit harsh? Its a very obvious diagonal line.
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 9:59am
I have just a quick drop. Will be more talkative later:


My tile with Copernicus and a cart with plague victim bodies and rats.







Tried to copy this painting:


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Quote Esven Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 10:03am
@cjlm123 you should probably put a little more effort into blending into your neighboring tiles since the tile edge is currently very noticeable.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 10:51am
@gawrone; looking great.
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 10:52am
If there's nothing too wrong with copernikus tile I would like to claim #23
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 10:53am
Originally posted by gawrone

If there's nothing too wrong with copernikus tile I would like to claim #23


Nothing wrong at first sight but you could revisit it any time you want.
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:03pm

Progress, figuring out the roof now. Trying to see how I'm going to shade this properly.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:04pm
I darkened all the other tiles in that preview, it actually looks like this:

Tile 22 can add a couple of pixels of leg shadow if they're willing to modify their tile.

Regarding tile 92, current WIP:
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Quote SeDiceBisonte Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:20pm
Had a bit of a slow week trying to figure out the best way to work on this, so there isn't much progress (and I haven't worked on the little roofer any more just yet):

@Mirre: Love the trebuchet idea and I've gone with that. Thanks! I had considered it being under construction but the roof tiles already being on the building made me rule that out. What I really wanted to do after you mentioned the trebuchet was to have the projectile visible through the hole with a clergyman looking down at it forlornly, but the isometric angles won't really allow a view all the way to the floor without there being a truly ridiculous amount of damage (most of it being below my tile), so I'll probably focus on the character of the workmen and just try to get some interesting architectural details in the hole.

Basically the plan is to have some visible flooring, arches, pews, or whatever else lines up with the plans of Medieval churches I've looked at. I might still be able to pop a little priest in there, looking up at the hole maybe.

Here's an updated version of the wider context to account for the change in floor level now Gecimen's tile is complete:

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:22pm
Looks great @cjlm123, you need to end the bottom of the tile in this manner:

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:29pm
@Sedicebisonte; planks showing like this would help.

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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 12:34pm

Aighty think I got the roof sorted. Was meaning to edit my other post but people posted inbetween lol. This collab's pretty active right now!
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 1:33pm
Updated.

Calling it (tile 92) done unless someone has suggestions.

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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by cjlm123

I darkened all the other tiles in that preview, it actually looks like this:
 
Tile 22 can add a couple of pixels of leg shadow if they're willing to modify their tile.



It would actually be really easy to fix it on your own tile too! Example:

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Quote Esven Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:01pm
It might be a few days before I can really work on it but I have a few ideas for tile #40 so I'd like to reserve it now.
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by Hapiel



Originally posted by cjlm123

I darkened all the other tiles in that preview, it actually looks like this:
 Tile 22 can add a couple of pixels of leg shadow if they're willing to modify their tile.

It would actually be really easy to fix it on your own tile too! Example:


Uum hold on? I have not completed my tile yet? Think this is going to conflict with what I've been making and I only just saw this tile :(
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by cjlm123

Updated.

Calling it (tile 92) done unless someone has suggestions.



Its a very pretty tile, could add more trees going into the neighboring tile? We could use a sherwood forest! Maybe some small wooden critters like squirrel?

@Eggy: From your wip you're still very early on. Look at Gawrone's dragon you have that much space to shift things around on. Its a small part of you tile.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:13pm
@Eggy; First complete tile gets priority on what's going on with the border, of course within the limits of common sense. As the southwest of your tile is completely empty at the moment, it's quite easy to continue cjlm123's tile enough to blend with yours.
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Gecimen

@Eggy; First complete tile gets priority on what's going on with the border, of course within the limits of common sense. As the southwest of your tile is completely empty at the moment, it's quite easy to continue cjlm123's tile enough to blend with yours.

Thanks, my main concern was it taking up space that I otherwise would've wanted to use (although I suppose that could be solved by moving the structure to the right but idk how far the image should be stretched), the structure I'm making looking out of place as it is very different from the tile that it's now connected to (a round head thingy right in front of a wizard's house), and the potential difficulty of finishing the structure in the neighboring tile (as of right now I'm actually not sure how I can continue it, I might be able to figure it out). I intended to have a little path leading to the lower left corner (not yet done as I was focusing on the structure more since that's harder) and a character standing there. A bit sad that I wasn't able to complete the tile so fast as the house was the only structure that I planned to include in the tile but hopefully I can still work with this.
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:33pm
Tile #21 finished!:
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:55pm
@Eggy; continuing other people’s tiles is the whole point of the collab. :) You’ve taken part in previous collabs, you know how chaotic they get in the end.

@Mirre; looks incredible!
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 3:03pm
Seems I've caused a bit of a ruckus.

@Eggy, I'll help whatever way you like if you need me to change stuff in my tile, but seems like you have a ton of horizontal space to extend to as its a border tile.

I'll post a sketch or something of how I envisioned the entire structure of the big head guy tomorrow, maybe that would be useful?

Regarding the border of tile 15 with tile 22, my main concern is that the shadow needs to extend into tile 22 to be more physically accurate, if Paperdomo101 doesn't wanna modify I'll change it as hapiel suggested.

Not trying to be a diva, I'll defer to whatever the consensus for how these small issues should be handled is. (FWIW, I'm willing to make whatever small changes in my tiles that will help my subsequent neighbours)


Edit: here's the rough idea:

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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by cjlm123

Seems I've caused abit of a ruckus.

@Eggy, I'll help whatever way you like if you need me to change stuff in my tile, but seems like you have a ton of horizontal space to extend to as its a border tile.

I'll post a sketch or something of how I envisioned the entire structure of the big head guy tomorrow, maybe that would be useful?

Regarding the border of tile 15 with tile 22, my main concern is that the shadow needs to extend into tile 22 to be more physically accurate, if Paperdomo101 doesn't wanna modify I'll change it as hapiel suggested.

Not trying to be a diva, I'll defer to whatever the consensus for how these small issues should be handled is. (FWIW, I'm willing to make whatever small changes in my tiles that will help my subsequent neighbours)

Thanks, a sketch will be very helpful I believe. I have no problems with the tile at all (hell it looks great!), just got really worried that it would've disrupted or otherwise messed with what I was working on (particularly since it seems to blend into the surrounding tiles by quite a bit), and I'd hate to scrap my tile since I've already done some work and it's also a subject that I've been waiting to include in a collab for years. It would be great to make it work, had some passing ideas but something should come up later, my only worry was that I would not be able to make my tile work with the other tile while also preserving my original intention or at least the core idea. But so long as it can be made to work in a way that makes everyone happy, I'm sure up for it :)
EDIT: Just saw the idea after posting. Looks pretty manageable! I can definitely try something like that.
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Quote Esven Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 3:27pm
@Mirre looks great, the snail vs knight motif is a fun one. It always seems to be all over the place in old manuscripts and yet we have no idea what it really meant. Though as I recall usually the knight is on the losing side of things.
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Quote Sazdx Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 3:34pm
Updated tile 52 :3! Maybe not 100% medieval imagery but it seems to kinda make sense, so... I drew a couple going out :3

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Quote Gen_void Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 5:53pm
Well, i revisited and changed the horned god and now is more defined, and some minor changes. But then i added that aura around its body and i think it is what needed to really pop up in the scene!

tell me what you think, if you say its too much i can post the final version without the aura.

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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2021 at 11:22pm
WiP of 23.



Will need someone to join the Medieval Japan mini-collab, to draw the bottom part of the castle and some Samurai.


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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 12:02am
That's going really nice gawrone.

I'm going to go ahead and claim #5.
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Quote ThrillhouseSSB Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:28am

Here's another WIP. I am still alive and working on this, just had a busy weekend. The bottom half of the wagon still needs to be completed and there's still some polishing to do, but I will hopefully get this tile finished in the next couple days :)
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 4:19am
Can I claim 38?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 5:31am
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Can I claim 38?


If you mean to complete gawrone's Japanese castle, yes you can.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 5:37am
Progress. I'll add Robin Hood and the Merrymen robbing a carriage.

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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:05am
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Progress. I'll add Robin Hood and the Merrymen robbing a carriage.



Wow this dragon plate leg armour is rendered brilliantly!


I guess some rich bas***ds gonna have a surprise!
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:08am
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Can I claim 38?



I will try to finish today but I'm 99% sure I will not move the bottom part so you can start planning.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:10am
Yes, my intention was to go off the wip you posted
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Quote SeDiceBisonte Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:11am
@Gecimen Thanks, will definitely do that! Just wanted to throw a WIP up because I've made more progress today than I did all last week:


Now I've worked out the view inside the hole, I'll expand it a little bit to allow for the timbers underneath the roof tiles like you suggested and I'll finish off texturing the external walls.

I'm usually in my element drawing people, but that little guy on the roof is the bane of my existence. I'll keep working on him and I still want to add in at least one more.
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:58am

Progress, please remind me again how to draw iso circles so I can continue the connected structure in the same way as in the presented sketch? Thanks!
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:56am
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Progress, please remind me again how to draw iso circles so I can continue the connected structure in the same way as in the presented sketch? Thanks!






Probably the most legit way, but they are shortcuts that will work better on smaller circles and when you practice them more. Search for tutorials and maybe you will find a method that works for you.
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 11:15am
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Originally posted by Eggy


Progress, please remind me again how to draw iso circles so I can continue the connected structure in the same way as in the presented sketch? Thanks!






Probably the most legit way, but they are shortcuts that will work better on smaller circles and when you practice them more. Search for tutorials and maybe you will find a method that works for you.

Did see that one but it looks really complicated though haha. I distinctly remember there being a much simpler method that was once posted on these forums I think, just having a bit of a tough time trying to recall how it went.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2021 at 11:24am
draw a circle and resize it vertically by 0.5
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