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    Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:25am
Share your knowledge darn it. I am finished so before I submit I guess just wanna get some c&C.

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My description is:
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The Flowing: Creatures are called 'the flowing'. When they make the journey before the bad season, they travel towards the homes in the trees. From above, it looks like a river of water flowing, as the moonlight reflects from the creatures' fur.

Bad Season: Stronger hunter type creatures emerge from their slumber and hunt accross the grasslands. They do not enter the forests where the trees protect those not of ill will.

The world is no way an attempt at realism, but a fantasy setting.
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Thanks guys :)


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:53am
The colors are perfect. The techniques are top notch. the curly things break the box in the right places. The creatures are cool. I just find this to be one awesome piece. The only place I find a bit off is the walkway stone path. It may be too starck/bright, seems like it stands out too much. The only other comment is the frame. It looks adecuate and maybe no decoration is really needed, I wonder though.
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:57am
Thanks jalonso . I could decorate the frame somewhat, not my strong point. :)

It's not a stone path, it is the creatures (the flowing). :) I wanted it to stand out. I'm not sure if I did it correctly.
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Quote fil_razorback Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 9:06am
Ooooh...favorite incoming =)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 9:13am
Originally posted by buloght

...It's not a stone path, it is the creatures (the flowing)...


If those are the creatures then there may be a detail problem there. Maybe if you add some mid sized ones just coming over the hill it would show clearer that those are creatures too. Or otherwise show some perpective on them so that its clearer?

ps. Ignore the frame comment.
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 9:16am
Ok :) I will try and make them better. I'll try perspective on them. 

Thanks razorback :)

[edit] I have changed the guys on the second hill still not sure though.





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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 11:41am
Oh, that looks better color wise. They still stand out but are not so bright. On to other things that may be of importance but may not be. Looking at the bottom right hand corner where the curly branch is. The slope of the branch is very similiar to the slope of the hill next to it. Perhaps if the purple shaded area would follow the shrubs more it would make for better composition. This is a minor thing but since you're anal about your pixels I thought I should mention it 
One other thing which I don't think is needed at all but refers to BBs comment on the two hills and their blending. Perhaps a bit of a shadow from hill #1 casted over hill #2 would make it more obvious. Again I don't think its needed at all. Ignore BB on that I (dare) say.
I now see why the creatures appeared to be stepstones. The tree and the shrubs below it even they are of the gigantic kind so dwarf the creatures closest to the shrubs that they seem to be a bit out of scale. its like the creatures are the size of a leaf. Perhaps they are as you envision them. My impression is that the creatures are human scale and the tree/srubs are gigantic?
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 11:48am
Yes :) I will add the purple shadow along slope as you say. The creatures are supposed to be small in scale, haha, but I was hoping those shrubs would come off as tree tops as I wanted distance between the second hill and the trees, any suggestions on improving that?

Thanks for your comments jalonso, they help a lot.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 11:55am
hmmm, that may not be possible. Maybe others have ideas. I think your description for this piece explains it all and does help to envision these things. Because you do mention "looks like a river of water flowing, as the moonlight reflects from the creatures' fur" I know think I led you in the wrong direction on the brightness of the "flow". Maybe put a bit more sparkle back in. I'm sorry I missed that detail 

EDIT: In my defense descriptions are not always read so I was looking as the average viewer, yeah, that's it.


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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 12:02pm
No  I think they were a bit bright, I am happier with them now. And also added the shadow longer. Yeah any suggestions on the hill would be great, my thinking was initially it'll be hard to see this clearly in darkness, and when I add dark shadow between the hill and trees it just looks like the trees have shadow on the hill.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 12:18pm
I'm just looking at this quite differently than intended it seems. I saw 4 total hills. The trees/shrubs being part of hill #2. This explains my scale problem there. I now understand that you drew 5 hills. The tree and tree tops being hill #3. Knowing this shadowing hill #2 will only add to the confusion as you say. Maybe this whole matter should be left to the viewer to interpret. To make hill #3 more obvious some indication of trunks could be added on the very darkest area on the bottom right. This whole thing may be over thinking it however. Since my first overall impression was that it all worked well, and the description explains things further. I suppose everyone could envision this landscape differently and crit accordingly. Since its a fanstasy landscape it would only be an opinion. If it were a real landscape it would be different.
I did not mention it before but the slope and movement of the stars are beautiful.
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 12:28pm
Thanks jalonso , I'll try and make hill 2 and hill 3 more obvious, I'll play around with some branches as you suggest :)

[edit] Brought the treetops (lit) down towards the second hill and cut them off.




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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 2:06pm
Fantastic work buloght, i could probably say it's your best piece to date. The colours are superb, and really calming on the eye, really makes me want to absorb the piece.
 
I havent read what jal has been critting you, but i thought i'd point out the jaggedyness of the branch on the top left - i think there are a few colours around that you could use to AA it a bit better.

Can't wait to see this finished.
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 5:14pm

Well I have decided to just keep the treetops like they are, since at such a distance they will look like bushes and it'll be hard to make that distinction I guess even in photos (hopefully haha). So the viewer can interpret like you say jalonso. The size of the creatures on the second hill should weight in on that decision hehe. (I might still try out branches in the dark area like you noted jalonso)

I have changed the colours of the treetops, do they look better or should I keep the old colours on them?

Thanks larwick . I added one of the colours to the aa on the outside of the branch, not sure if it's better haha, but did it anyway.





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Quote Stitchy Replybullet Posted: 13 September 2006 at 6:20pm
Awesome concepts. DAMN. I wonder if you're into H.P. Lovecraft... I can always confide in him with the fascination of creating alien worlds and societies. Lawl. Okay, I can't relaly give a crit on these, as I am really not worthy, so I'll just say... AMAZINK. <3
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 14 September 2006 at 8:42am
Originally posted by buloght

...I have changed the colours of the treetops, do they look better or should I keep the old colours on them?...


I like the brighter version myself but these look OK too. If you do leave it this way you left one bright blue pixel.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 14 September 2006 at 5:28pm
Lovely pallate and awesome shading. :)
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Quote buloght Replybullet Posted: 14 September 2006 at 5:45pm
Thanks stitchy Of course you are worthy of critting me! I'm not very familiar with H.P.Lovecraft, but I may have read some of his work without knowing or remembering :).

Jalonso: :). I brightened up the colors more, but not as the original since it's a bit bright and makes it hard looking at the front guys.

Thanks aleiav

I changed the trees completely, gave them trunks as was suggested to me :). I like it more than the previous since I feel it looks like a forest now if one looks closer, and the hill is more obvious.



I'm gonna submit it now as I have to stop working on it now and get on with other stuff haha. Thanks for the comments and crit everyone!


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