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Platnium
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![]() Topic: My manPosted: 15 July 2007 at 11:38am |
What ya think should i do any more work on him, or is he o.k to submit.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 11:42am |
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I don't think it's ready. There's almost no shading, the face... two dots and a line? And the hat's colors are to dark, there's also no shading on that. And that title is pretty weird.
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Blueberry_pie
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 11:46am |
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Why the dithering on the hat? It's the same pattern on the whole thing, and it doesn't create any texture at all because the colours are so similar. (I didn't even see it was dithered at 1x zoom)
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 11:52am |
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Ok i will make the hat like take all the dithering of and do the shading again and show you.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 12:04pm |
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Is this better
Before:
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soda
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 12:38pm |
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Not really, you need more contrast. It doesn't look any different. Fix the face also.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 12:47pm |
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How are these.
normal:
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 15 July 2007 at 7:57pm |
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People are going to be disinclined to help you if completely ignore their very good advice. You really need to fix the problems with this piece that have already been pointed out before moving on to animation.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 8:53am |
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Well im not so sure what contrast is (sorry im quite young) and i have change the eyes and mouth, i think it may be done now, not sure.
![]() And look this is the first one:
![]() Atleast its improved.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:10am |
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If you need more contrast, you would make the color brighter, against another color.
And you could only be at least 13, because that's the youngest you could be on PJ. As for the picture? Add some eyebrows, a shadow on the nose, define the shape of the head more, and the mouth needs more details. |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:18am |
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ok im on it right now and i will show you.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:22am |
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You could crack a dictionary if you don't know what contrast is.
At any rate, as soda said, it is:
• Enhancement of the apparent brightness or clarity of a design provided by the juxtaposition of different colors or textures. And juxtaposition means "stuff being next to other stuff" (definition provided by my towering intellect) |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:38am |
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Is this ok yet?
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:41am |
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I'm sorry to say, but no. Like I said, add more contrast in the hat and face. Shape the head better, maybe make a chin.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:50am |
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Don't worry about submitting this to the gallery. All you need to worry about right now is improving as an artist and learning some basic pixel techniques. Assume you will never submit this to the gallery and that it's just for practice. Take your time. Learn. Grow.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:53am |
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OK, but you people are a tough crowd hows this i tried with the contrast not sure if its working or not and added a chin, i don't really thinki need to change the shape so i left it and added a chin, hows it look.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:03am |
![]() Heres a REALLY crappy edit I did in 4 mins, but theres the idea. |
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:03am |
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The shading is still practically invisible at 1x. Make your darks DARKER and make your brights BRIGHTER. Don't be scared. Go crazy with the light/dark.
EDIT: Soda posted while I was typing this. Look at his example! See how you can actually tell there are two different shades on the skin? Edited by Hatch - 16 July 2007 at 10:04am |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:05am |
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ok, i was scared of getting it wrong, i guess i'm still in the newb stage of pixelling i only starting a couple weeks ago (damn i'm rubbish) i just hope i get the hang of it.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:23am |
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ok, i added another shade on the hat and face and put more Contrast in i think it looks alright now, still not changing the shape, i like how it is,it looks a little like south park's cartman, but i did'nt make it look like him so here it is:
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:24am |
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It hasn't changed.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:27am |
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It has i have changed the shading on it and colours.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:29am |
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He's saying it has not changed perceptibly. Keep making your lights lighter and your darks darker.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:35am |
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Damn this is hard, hows this:
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:39am |
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He's too orange
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:40am |
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Indeed he is, but let's not let this milestone pass unnoticed: Platnium, that shading is better.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:41am |
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It is.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:43am |
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ok, i will make him less orange.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:43am |
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Hooray! *confetti*
Now, ditch the harsh black outlines on his facial features and make his nose less bizarre. |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:59am |
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ok, then u think its submitable.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:59am |
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Originally posted by Hatch
Don't worry about submitting this to the gallery. All you need to worry about right now is improving as an artist and learning some basic pixel techniques. Assume you will never submit this to the gallery and that it's just for practice. Take your time. Learn. Grow. |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:05am |
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Yes i know but i think i put alot of hard work in so why not submit it and look now:
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:08am |
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He's even more orange and there's even less contrast. And his chin is still harsh black.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:14am |
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So if i take out the orange and change the chins form black to the other and show you you say ok you think i can submit it.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:18am |
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No. Assuming you do all that, you should then put it in your "My Pixel Art" folder in C:\Documents\, reflect on what you've learned, start thinking about what you need to work on, and put all that thought towards your next practice piece.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:21am |
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Ok, so if i make a man i will ise what i have learnt, ok this is my final peice no matter what i am adding no more, changing no more color, or any thing, i leave you with this.
first ever peice:
![]() My final peice:
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Blueberry_pie
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:24am |
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Platnium, instead of focusing on making this good enough for the PJ gallery, why not focus on making it great? You'll never improve much by always going for adequate. Art is about pushing your limits, it's not something you just try to get over with as quickly as possible.
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Hatch
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:25am |
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Blueberry_pie said in three elegant sentences what I've been trying to say for the entire thread.
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Kfuchoin
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:27am |
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that can be worked a lot more and i meand A LOT!
i don't think you want to submit that (wont be accepted)...
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may the pixels be with you..
~Kfuchoin eMo looking for people for an RPG info: http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4903 |
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:28am |
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ye ok well i'm already started making a new peice and i will not try making it good i will go for great and we will see what happens so until next time,
Thats all folks.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 16 July 2007 at 1:22pm |
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I say keep going with this, It might turn out ok.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 17 July 2007 at 11:33am |
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Ok i will, you think i need to change the face color (again) becuase i don't want to do i just need to do alot of touch ups.
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soda
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![]() Posted: 17 July 2007 at 6:56pm |
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I suggest starting all over, and showing your step by step process.
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leel
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![]() Posted: 17 July 2007 at 7:05pm |
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I suggest pulling out some paper and pencils and just getting the basics of drawing down. How old are you again?
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:05am |
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I'm 13, any way i started again but i need some hair tutorials know any?
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leel
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:17am |
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Just google some. You're not that young, there's some things you'll have to do on your own, because even though we're really excited to help you, we won't baby you. Now move your cursor up to the address bar and type in "google.com" and press enter.
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:30am |
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Lol, first link http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24455158/
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leel
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:48am |
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that's not a really good one. Besides, the reason for looking it up yourself is that you see a variety, not just the first link you reach
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Platnium
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 8:58am |
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Anyway i heard that people use photo shop 5/6 any one know a link to a free trial so i can see what its like.
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Christopher
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![]() Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:40am |
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Well when someone is using photoshop, the only advantages they should have shouldnt be anything overpowering any other drawing program, bceause that would make it non pixel art.
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