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Skull Master
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![]() Topic: Evil hatPosted: 29 September 2007 at 6:53pm |
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Here's an evil hat I made when I was board, please critique.
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Metaru
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![]() Posted: 29 September 2007 at 10:17pm |
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how do you put this... thing on your head?
yep! we got another Skull |
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I ate leel's babies
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 29 September 2007 at 11:44pm |
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Like this:
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Skull Master
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leel
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![]() Posted: 30 September 2007 at 6:43am |
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Doomcreator0
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![]() Posted: 30 September 2007 at 7:37am |
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Um? What was that link for? But yeah, I guess it's OK if it's a hat. |
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MashPotato
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![]() Posted: 30 September 2007 at 9:54am |
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I think you need some more clear definition within the hat, as I'm finding it a bit difficult to read... for example, (what I think is) the brim is fading into the top of the hat rather than having a distinct fold, making it hard to define the shape you want.
It's a neat start, keep at it! ![]() |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 5:45am |
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Kay, this any better?
![]() I tried what you said, also tried to make the visser look more visser-like. Edited by Skull Master - 01 October 2007 at 5:45am |
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Metaru
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 7:47am |
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do NOT use photobucket for your pixels, as it automatically converts your image to JPEG. I recomend you www.Imageshack.us.
also, try to add more volume to that visser, so it would not look as if it was made of paper. |
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pixelblink
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 11:21am |
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Originally posted by Metaru do NOT use photobucket for your pixels, as it automatically converts your image to JPEG. What? No it doesn't. I use photobucket all the time... silly boy. About the hat: it doesn't look like one. It doesn't really look like anything. Edited by pixelblink - 01 October 2007 at 11:21am |
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Metaru
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 12:33pm |
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he's uploading BMPs
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I ate leel's babies
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 2:21pm |
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Originally posted by Metaru do NOT use photobucket for your pixels, as it automatically converts your image to JPEG. I recomend you www.Imageshack.us. also, try to add more volume to that visser, so it would not look as if it was made of paper. I know, I just use Photobucket those few times because Imageshack was having problems, here's a non-Jpeged one: ![]() I will edit the visser later, I got to do mah' homework now... T_T |
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Doomcreator0
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 2:54pm |
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Photobucket only JPGS .bmp images. If you save them as .png. They stay .png.
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Squirrelsquid
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 4:00pm |
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Originally posted by Doomcreator0 Photobucket only JPGS .bmp images. If you save them as .png. They stay .png. ...and Photobucket is fine with .gif too. never had problems with it... regarding the piece: It's pretty hard to imagine where exactly the head would fit in. I'd work out a circular shape that clearly fits on you every-day human head. Edited by Squirrelsquid - 01 October 2007 at 4:00pm |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 4:18pm |
Yeah, I hear ya', I'll do that. XD
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 6:35pm |
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Update:
![]() I made the hat more "Hat shaped" and I inproved on the shaiding, what do ya' think? |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 6:48pm |
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What are those red things? Why is the red so saturated? Why have you not cleaned the edges of the bill?
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 6:52pm |
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1) donno
2) ![]() 3) I don't quite know how to with out it ending up looking flat... |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 7:05pm |
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THIS what you want?:
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 7:05pm |
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making a quick show and tell, brb
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 7:06pm |
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Uhhh... ok... XD
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 01 October 2007 at 7:22pm |
![]() #1-yours #2- The lineart I mentioned being dirty in pink. I also recolored the rest of that line using greys instead of the black. Desaturated the reds here too. You have too many reds there, btw. 2 at least are not needed. #3+4- cap with a tail thing. Your cap is actually ok except for the pink line where your line there is actually opposite to it. I suggest changing this so it 'looks' like a hat. Use this yellow part of the hat to make more sense of the red things, whatever they may be. ps: the dithering when zoomed is actually pretty good. Some areas show skill. I was surprised by this for some reason. Good job. EDIT: #2 also has some added contrast to the grey color ramp Edited by jalonso - 01 October 2007 at 7:45pm |
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l3m0n5
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 5:41am |
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oh there it is, another one of jalonso's SUPER critique posts, dunno how u have time to make these kinda posts but anwho back on topic, if u plan to sort of re-vamp the hat to fit the shape of a real hat like that in jal's post then i think the eyes of the "skull" might be a lilttle lopsided, could just be me though...
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:25am |
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@l3m0n5-thx for the new siggy :p
*I'm making another edit right now, actually XD |
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Metaru
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 9:59am |
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at last, i'm out of there.
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I ate leel's babies
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 2:53pm |
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@ jalonso :
Thank you for showing me how to do the bill, I wasn't quite sure how. PS.: your picture REALLY helps, thanks a bunch! ![]() |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 4:37pm |
![]() This good? :s |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 4:53pm |
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It's looking better all the time.
The flap/thing just doesn't look right, at all. Please, please, once and for all, explain what that is? why is it there? why is it needed? Couldnt red eyes compensate? |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 4:57pm |
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^^; Howz about I take the flaps away, and replace them with it crying blood from the eyes?
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 5:00pm |
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I would first refine the lightsource on the hat. before taking another step.
A good opportunity to smooth (aa or selout or combo) your edges. This won't look good on a BG and if you aren't aware I let nothing in with uselss BGs, ya know. E: You didn't answer ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by jalonso - 02 October 2007 at 5:00pm |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 5:07pm |
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Wah? oh, I'll edit the lightsource to, I'm ceeping the blood tears though. XD
Edit: I'm watching AMV hell 3 rite now, so I'm a bit destracted. Edited by Skull Master - 02 October 2007 at 5:10pm |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 5:22pm |
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*adds the red 'thangs' to the list of PJ mysteries never to be solved
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 5:51pm |
Xp yeah.This good? ![]() |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:05pm |
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Too much flow.
You'd have to figure absorbsion would take place since you do not have a slick surface (told you to figure out the lightsource, didn't I). Right side blood to the bill with the right eye just beginning to flow, I'd say. |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:19pm |
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Well... what if it's made of leather? (I did edit the lightsourse a bit, just not that much, I didn't know were to change it) XD
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Metaru
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:31pm |
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then EXPLAIN that you ... ehm... """"""hat""""" is made of leather.
also, leather, spandex or mithril, it doesn't matter the material, the blood should follow laws of gravity and flow. if its on a surface, the blood should make a little pond below the """"hat""". if not, well, figure it out.
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:31pm |
![]() Edit: -_-; you know how, on a sorta' rainy day, the rain drops cling to the edges of your unbrella befor falling down? that's kinda' what I was trying to do Edited by Skull Master - 02 October 2007 at 6:35pm |
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MashPotato
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:35pm |
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It's improved greatly from your first attempt, nice work
I think there's too much blood on the brim; for example, how is the blood flowing upward so much? For the lightsource issue, i think more shadow could be added to the cap portion to our left; notice how the brim is in shadow at that point, but the light on the cap seems to go much further. I'm not great at lighting, but it seems a bit off there.EDIT: written before the edit Edited by MashPotato - 02 October 2007 at 6:35pm |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:39pm |
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Sorry, don't see it, could you mabe point to it please?
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:41pm |
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*goes to make an edit/sample.
**because you are really trying :) brb |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:42pm |
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lol, thanks Xp
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MashPotato
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:46pm |
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Quick edit to show you what I mean:
EDIT: updated Edited by MashPotato - 02 October 2007 at 6:49pm |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:54pm |
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Ah, I see it now. I willz fix it now, thanks! =D
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 6:55pm |
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oh noes, I've been mashed
![]() ![]() So very quick and rough because I want you to figure it out. I did first lightsource Secondary, if you feel brave ; ) And gravity blood flow. I may be slightly off. Edited by jalonso - 02 October 2007 at 6:56pm |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:03pm |
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XD Thanks, I'll do the lighting
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:20pm |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:22pm |
>>>![]() Oh my! Now AA them thar edges. |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:27pm |
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What's AA? *Prepares myself to be bricked*
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:39pm |
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AA = anti-alias
A technique used on the edges of pixelart to smooth jaggy areas. sample of AA - zoom and look at the blue flames on the edges notice how where there are steps in jaggies the colors go from dark to light colors. Of course you can choose to, SelOut =Selective Outlining Zoom in and notice how the lineart is colored using different shades wher needed to smooth the edges as much as possible. |
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Skull Master
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![]() Posted: 02 October 2007 at 7:53pm |
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Like this???
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