Sorry i'm sort of new here and ye... i don't think this is good enough but... dw i think i suk... at pa.. need help..

the thing is i'm not really good a@  pa so i think it'd be a bit hard.... but i could try...

Pixel clean isn't difficult, only laborious.

Needs shading and a face.

Do not copy surt's edit but study it and make your version of his awesome version. Notice he added the eyes on the trunk. Its key for this avatar look.
Notice how the made the tree have volume definition and style.
Stop saying you're new and don't know how. You're just blocking your brain from moving. Believe you can if not right away then eventually. Practice and patience.

Try to clean up your lines, as Surt did

sorry about the double post again but does anyone think that this is good enough for the gallery s yet??

your shading on the leaves is sorta half and half (i guess if that makes sense) and it doesn't really look 3D and dont include pupils, none of the krysis avatars have them

Edited by 5L1V3R - 01 January 2008 at 11:26am

those are sweet im making one now

you haven't changed the shading at all...

I think details like pattern background and the pupils in the eyes won't really matter if you clearly have no understanding of depth and light.  No one will notice the minor touches, when there's a huge crappily shaded center of the piece.   SO, focus on the tree for now, the rest of the details are just final touches.

surt's edit is a good reference for shading your avatar. Most objects are seperable by basic figures. Your tree can seperated in some spheres which overlap each other.

Try to find out where this spheres are and you know where the hilights and shades to set.

try this :

yes but its looks more like a krysis avatar, and the name under says what is it

double post agin sorry but i really wnat to know how i should improve.. many on u sy that i should change the shading but with many edits my shadings don't look like anything... so do u think i should go with surt's idea and study then make mine.. the problem is i;'ve already done that... maybe i shouyld just abandone this... (ps is this good enough for the gallery)

thanks blackdragon... i will work on it but right now i'm on a holiday so i won't bedoing pa for a while.. anyway i will work on it...

To me it looks like you are too impatient on getting the piece into the gallery, rather than concentrating on making it better. But I think you should largen the highlights and clean the jaggies in the lines.

Hmmm, put some pink into it like my edit, and make those highlights rounder and it should get through.

well do you think it's finished? if you believe there's more you can do to this than I'd continue rendering. I wouldnt rely so heavily on the members here because at the end of the day it's your avatar, its up to you how far you want to take this.

I still think there's still some things that can be improved on though, you've added some shade to the bumpy parts of the broccoli but there should be indentations between each bump, I'd use your darker shade to shape it further.

 

also to the left side of the broccli light may not be hitting there directly but it doesnt stop you hinting shapes there too.

 

maybe this edit will help? pretty rough but hopefully it may inspire you to take this further, theres been some other great edits too so I recon you've got a lot of perspective on this.

 

 

Its basically increasing the size of your lighter shades nearer to the lighter side and the opposite to the darker, its a bit hard to explain in words so I cooked up a pattern which is basically a flattened out version of the broccoli texture. But of course the broccoli would be more randomised with larger and smaller raised parts across the surface.  hopefully its self explainitory, just zoom in.

 

 or with your palette..

 

help atall?

 

-Ter

Edited by Terley - 16 January 2008 at 12:24am

ok i think this is going to be my last or hopefully last edit...

i don;t want to change it.. i mean i like it the way it is... i could do with whatterley said but i don't think i need that sort of shadowing ,,, if u know what i mean.. but i guess i could do something to it.

something like that... much closer to what it should look...

my friend, you're being too rushy in your progress. no one is trying to push you, but people will eventually get tired of helping if you don't take any advice or don't show any kind of improvement as suggested.

do not look the set of submitting "it" to the gallery or ask "if its galllery ready" as your goal. i would recomend you to aim yourself to improve your technique first here, on these easy avatars(one pixel at time). follow and read and study and think carefully what people is telling you. the avatar you are trying to achieve has a fixed style of shadowing, making it more easy to know how it should look.

pixel art DOES require patience, purpletree. if you don't want to be patient and study carefully each piece, then you'll get eventually stuck at this point and your progress will be little or nothing. patience doesn't mean that someone comes and do your work, it refers to the fact that you must take all your time and spend it on your pixel untill you really know it looks as it should look.

do not feel discouraged. everyone who posted here is hoping to see your avatar finished, polished and refined.

see? it ain't that hard. these highlights are quite good. (compare it to your first attemp :D),

 now compare it with Terley's edit, and you'll notice the diference. it only needs another revision and a bit of contrast to define the shapes in the canopy.

you are somehow close to be ready, I believe.

so do u think its ready or should i be more patient??

exactly my point.. do u think that i overdid it...?

I thought it were a broccoli , then I'd go in and add some branches, also keep the light source so you have a lighter side and a darker side, it gives it more dimension. I wouldn't go as far as trying to push this too far towards reality, but definately make it read quickly as 'tree'.

tried to make yours more tree-ish I think its near ready btw if you just polish it up, but what counts is you learning something along the way. Take care of your work, take your time and learn to think about where you want to go with your art, you tend to be more self aware when you've got a target looming in your mind.

ok heres the most recent edit