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Quote ZeroNova Replybullet Topic: Wip, need feedback.
    Posted: 21 February 2009 at 9:10pm
Ok, I submitted this piece to the gallery but it was removed (revision required). I was thinking that I would ask for some advice here, just what is wrong with the anatomy (which I guess is the problem)? I already know that the sprite has a very mirrored/symmetrical look, so you don't have to mention that  (I'll try and fix that).

Here's the sprite:


I'm just looking for some advice, what areas need to be changed and in what way. Like, the head is too small or the shoulders too wide etc... I'm working on it right now but I'd really like some suggestions.

I also have one more question, what exactly does this mean:
REASON: Your piece was not able to gather the score needed for inclusion in the gallery.
(the reason why the piece got removed / didn't get included in the gallery)

Thanks in advance.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:41am
Shoulders are too wide indead.

Mods of PJ, isn't it time to improve that message to something understandable?

It means that too many people voted NO for gallery inclusion. I voted a NO for it too.
Indeed it is mostly the anatomy. I suggest you go to www.posemaniacs.com and look up this pose there. Than compare and redraw by realistic sizes. Her stomach is really narrow, her hips too wides, her legs contain holes where normally knees are, her shoudlers are wide, I can hardly see elbows,one of her feets is rotted while the leg is not.

Thats what I notice first.
However, now that you are here it would be cool if you took the time and improved the colors together with us too :). But first the anatomy.
I hope I can be of a help!

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Quote ZeroNova Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2009 at 9:23am
Thanks for the reply, I'll try to fix the things you mentioned and check that link you posted as well. I'll post here again after I've made a few changes, but it might take a little while.
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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2009 at 9:53am
Originally posted by Lollige


Mods of PJ, isn't it time to improve that message to something understandable?

It means that too many people voted NO for gallery inclusion.

How about no?

There's already a "didn't get a high enough score" message. Stop confusing people.

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Read 1 and 10 respectively. FAQs, they're good for you.


ZeroNova, you're doing fine, keep up the high spirits.

Might want to slim down her legs a bit.
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2009 at 9:54am
I agree, work on anatomy first then colors and lighting (though the steps overlap to a certain degree)  but I just wanted to point this out before I forget:

the lighting on the girl is symmetrical - which would mean the light is coming from the front (which doesn't really look like it here) or she was standing directly between two lights equally lit on both sides, but then her shadow is angled.

Also she doesn't seem to have a pelvis - her body jumps from the waist to the thighs, so be sure to check references for that area as well :)
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Quote SHANN0N Replybullet Posted: 22 February 2009 at 10:23am
it looks to me like the knees are too high(the femur, or thighbone is generally longer than the calve bone) and I think that the sleeves stick up too much, making her already wide shoulders look kind of manly It doesnt really seem to me that this type of fabric would stick up at all, really. The left foot looks like shes standing on her tippy toes which would shift the weight of the entire body and make her lean right. The right foot isnt really in a possible position with the legs as they are. If the foot was like that, the whole leg would turn. I think the arm position makes her look kind of stiff and awkward too- I think it is a more natural position for the arms to be a lot closer to the body, although this position is definitely  achievable. You also have multiple light sources that dont agree with each other. The legs are shaded as though there is light coming directly on top of them, which would mean the shadow would be almost non-existent. You also have very frontal shading on her stomach which gives a pillow-y effect. One more little thing I noticed...You wouldnt be able to see the lines marking the underside of her breasts when she's wearing a dress- I'd suggest looking at a picture of a woman wearing a tighter wifebeater for help shading that area.
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Quote ZeroNova Replybullet Posted: 26 February 2009 at 5:09pm
Sorry, I haven't been able to use the computer in a while.

Originally posted by greenraven


Might want to slim down her legs a bit.

They're kind of meant to be like that.
You could look at these for reference:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Nova/sf4-chun-li.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Nova/screenshot4.jpg

Still, I should be able to improve the legs a bit.

I appreciate your advice, and thanks for the FAQ links as well.






Edited by ZeroNova - 26 February 2009 at 5:12pm
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