My Wip
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Category: Pixel Art
Forum Name: WIP (Work In Progress)
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Topic: My Wip
Posted By: Seddey
Subject: My Wip
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 2:01pm
I wanna know what sud i add on him. (If you say hands then duh) :P 
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Posted By: A.B. Lazer
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 2:34pm
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Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 2:50pm
Wow your real funny how long it toke you to come up with that? 
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Posted By: A.B. Lazer
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 4:47pm
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Two years. Seriously - why to ask if you already know the answer?
On other thing I'd suggest you to pass on pixels for some time and make drawings with just pen and paper. If you want to draw humans really good you have to: 1. Learn about proportions: http://images.google.ru/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=human%20proportions&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi - http://images.google.ru/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=human%20proportions&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi 2. Draw from photos for practice (using knowledge about proportions). |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 8:08pm
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Thanks but i did not ask how to draw, I ask "what sud i add on him" the drawing may or may not look good but i do not care on that. Cuz my game fit him good. Soo "Seriously" you need to read more, here you go: http://www.starfall.com/ READING IS FUN YAY! (lol You are so fun lol) Edit: You know, it seem i got to ask like this: What sud i add like belt or any accessories. :D |
Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 8:34pm
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What an asshole. BTW, it's "should." Nowhere near the failed attempt at spelling like what you presented. Add proper anatomy, increase contrast, redo the sword with a little less fail, and do not be so rude to those that seek to help you. |
Posted By: Hatch
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 9:13pm
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This thread needs more positive vibes.
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Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 9:50pm
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Originally posted by Hatch This thread needs more positive vibes. Yes it "should" be, we all need to have fun. And i was not rude if i was i am real sorry. I just do not need help on my drawing now. (I know i do but not now.) What i did for him it something called a "Joke". I am not a boarding guy. If you and him can not take a joke on something we do for games then sorry for being rude. There now that's out the way. bye and have fun and love. EDIT: I look and look at what at Angel and Lazer said, to see if you are helping like Angel said. If you to what me to better him okay. But the sword is like that because i draw it like that. P.S. Angel you should not use the word "asshole" you can hurt me  ....YOU MEANIE!
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Posted By: Rapio
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 3:47am
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Maybe you could add like a quiver, armor pieces (shoulder pads) etc etc |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 4:55am
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Armor? Hmm...maybe i well do that thanks. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 7:05am
Update, i did the sword and hands, they my look dumb but i like it for him. My game is for kids so he got to fit the game or it well look something like this.  |
Posted By: r1k
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 11:45am
if this is for a game I would make it alot smaller. Otherwise youre going to have alot of large animations to make and that will be very difficult to do. You need to fix your light source though, its all over the place. like on the legs you have the light coming from opposite directions. Also as was already mentioned you ought to increase contrast in the skin especially, the shadows are hardly noticable. I drew this really quickly to show were I would go with this if you really intend on using this in a game as for things I added, I gave him a belt, a chain, a necklace thing, added a collar on his shirt. I also changed the color of his pants cause it looked kind of like he was wearing a jump suit. if its a platform game you should put his feet on the same level or it might look wierd in the game. I have to ask though, are you really serious about this? You have an excuse for every criticism. Im just wondering do you actually care if this looks good because it really seems like you dont. And if not why ask for help on an art board rather than just ask your friends what to add to it? |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 3:58pm
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Ok here we go. 1:Smaller, maybe. 2: Light source, okay, i well work on that. 3:Increase contrast, i didn't know what he meant, but i well do it. 4:Drawing, thats good but to real looking, so maybe. 5:New look, IT IS AWESOME, thank you. (jump suit? okay...) 6:Platform, okay i well do the feet the same level. 7:"Just ask your friends what to add to it?" I did, he said it is ok (he don't do art) so i went to a art board to see what they say,but no one help but you. You really help me alot. Here is my answer to "I have to ask though, are you really serious about this? Yes and no. Yes:My drawing is not the best yet, so i well make my 1st game to get better and better. I am serious on that. No:However being to serious for a game, is like asking football player to walk to win. It maybe a excuse, but "Why so serious?". |
Posted By: r1k
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 9:30pm
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why so serious? To get better thats why. Its like asking a football player to win without going to practice. anyways, if you want it more cartoony you could adjust the proportions, maybe add an outline, make him look more like a kid, make him look happy or something. Try looking up some graphics in more cartoony games. Anyways I did another quick sprite up of it more cartoony. The outline isnt really working here but I did it really sloppy, it could work better if it werent so sloppy  in addition to the drawing aspect, have you looked at any spriting tuts? Like have you looked into drawing smooth lines in pixel art or how to make aa or any of the basics like that? What I drew would be sort of like a starting point. then since this is pixel art I would want to refine it by smoothing out jagged lines, adding aa maybe and just adjusting stuff around. also notice I shifted the shadows in the shirt towards green a little bit. This is called hue shifting, it makes your colors look more interesting. Generally you make the lighter colors warmer (shifted towards yellow) and the shadows cooler (shifted towards blue). You can shift it alot or a little whatever youre going for. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 10:44pm
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Yes i see i see, really useful,i well apply. And on tut: YES, ALOT OF THEM. For some reason i can't draw smaller,i tried oh yes i tried. Tut just didn't tell me how to do it good enough. So all that a learned, i learned on my own. I guess reading and looking at base is not enough,lol you told me more then they did. But there are some good one like Noobturials. but i just don't get it, at all. |
Posted By: r1k
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 11:05pm
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well tuts are helpful but you have to practice alot before it really sinks in. at pixelation there is a thread were you can download video tuts of some good spriters spriting. http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=2144.0 I havnt watched any of them but Im sure itll be interesting and helpful to actually see how they work. What I did was zoom in x10 in MSpaint and just used a large brush (8x8 and 4x4 pixel brushes) to block out a basic silhouette with a single color. Then I took the pencil tool and broke up the areas like the pants, shirt etc, and colored those in their own colors. Then I put the shadows on. Then I would clean it up after that with the pencil tool. But well the videos are probibly more helpful than me trying to explain what I did. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 11:21pm
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All the video don't work on my PC, i guess because they have err. I tried a lot of sites for spriteing, like on youtube. But they are all useless, it all reedit and fast paste video that don't say "how" and "why" to do this or that, like Noobtut said iso got straight lines only (i did not know that), but i not working on iso,but still good to know stuff like that. Anyway some tut are helpful, just the ones i need only show me how they draw without telling me do's and don't like what Lazer told me about (i know how to draw, just not spriteing what i need,and besides they all the realistic way of drawing.) |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 8:55am
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Originally posted by Seddey Anyway some tut are helpful, just the ones i need only show me how they draw without telling me do's and don't like what Lazer told me about (i know how to draw, just not spriteing what i need,and besides they all the realistic way of drawing.) Okay, this is going to sound mean, but a couple of things: A) you do not know how to draw that well. Stop being so full of yourself. You don't have the slightest grasp on anatomy yet, not to mention many other fundamental issues. It's not a bad thing that you don't know, no one knows at the start, but you will never learn if you keep this up. B) Learning realism is the only way to learn how to draw cartoons properly if what you're drawing is going to appear human in any way. You don't have to be good at drawing realistically, but you need to understand how the realistic human body looks and is put together. Drawing in a cartoony style is a simplification of the human body, but you can not simplify something you don't properly understand. C) Christ, spell properly would you? "i guess because they have err." - "Because they have an error"? But even that isn't clear at all - what is the problem? Some of those links I saw did actually 404, the page isn't found, others are AVI files, maybe you don't have a video player that handles avi files? regardless, whether english is your first language or not, you have to try to be more clear before anyone can understand you, and that would start with proper spelling and an actual description of what the problem is. I have plenty more to say, but I have the gut feeling you're one of those "Cartoon is my STYLE i dont have to learn anatomy!" type people, so I won't bother. *throws some positive vibes at this thread, since I'm clearly not adding any myself~* |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 9:58am
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Wow, didn't mean to make you mad. Sorry if i did. But i am not acting full of myself. Did i say i am better then anyone or act like i don't need to draw like anyone else? No, but if it look way then it just look that way. And on my anatomy yes i know i need work on it, if "Learning realism is the only way to learn how to draw" then i well work on that to. I am welling to learn that,but i didn't think it's needed now,cartoon is not my only art ways, it was just 1st, it well be last if needed. And my way of saying error, lol i got no excuse for that. Maybe my problem was the AVI or my updated "DivX","RealPlayer", and "Windows Media Player", who knows. Well i think thats it, sorry again if i made you mad. (when i wasn't trying to.) *Staying positive when talking me is not easy, i get that alot, because no one understand me. (even face to face.) |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 10:03am
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Well, it's just that your post was pretty much a combination of all my biggest art-related pet-peeves rolled into one :P. but trust me, as one artist to another, learn anatomy. I thought I didn't need it for the longest time but there was always something off about my stuff. as soon as I actually started to study and understand it my art starting getting AMAZINGLY better a lot faster than it ever had before. It's not the funnest thing to learn realistic anatomy and such when you don't want to draw realistically, but trust me when I say it's one of the most helpful things you can do. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 10:18am
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I sorry, i know this is off topic but. Did i really act like a Know-It-All? And on topic. I well work on it, (but this well be soo boring....but.....okaaay...) Bye. Edit:Oh and why is this post so mad at me? When this got nothing?  |
Posted By: Zeratanus
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 12:27pm
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Well, when you act like you dont need advice or help it does give off a very arrogant feeling. Anyway, as for that other piece, honestly, I'd say the exact same advice applies. it's not always easy for people to comment on a piece when the most helpful thing they can say is just to "keep practicing". There are simply too many anatomy problems and such for me to really point out any specific things to work on besides the same thing Lazer said in this topic - study anatomy and references. |
Posted By: IQbrew
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 12:39pm
 All of your pieces have colors that hurt my eyes. I don't know anything about color pallets, but you may want to try some other colors out. You were given many tips you didn't follow. In fact, you did the opposite in most cases. (E.g. Working smaller. You're working larger now?) Everything said before still applies, read through the page again. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 1:29pm
So it's back to hand drawing then...But you know my biggest problems is me not caring about all of this. drawing is just drawing, it use to be stick figure but i didn't like it. until i got to where i am now, i thought all was ok. (still do.) So all this time i am back at STAGE 4.....( No STAGE 3 i mean 1.)  Edit:I laugh my head off,cause it's me 100%. I was going to ask you what is anatomy....lol. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 2:08am
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Okay i "Study anatomy" then i study again,and when i got sick of it, i
study a little more. But i did not look at real drawings yet. Why? for 1
thing i do not like to look at real mans and whats wrest i got to look
at a boys anatomy for that game o.0.....sooo i well stick to cartoon
hero's anatomy for now. (but i well study real drawing.) Anyways i toke a pose from a girl looking back. To see if i can do that to. I know i still need work,but i think i got "anatomy" down pack. (i hope..) Here.  P.S: I well love to show you the pose i use for this ,but for some reason i can't. |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 3:34am
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Nobody here is gonna call you gay for studying how a body works. I assume you're a guy? Stand in front of a mirror, pull up your shirt sleeve, flex, unflex, watch how the flesh moves etc. i think i got "anatomy" down ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 3:55am
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I don't? How so? Did i at lest get better? Oh well, i was still going to study on more anatomy anyway. (i did say "I know i still need work") And on that gay thing,i know no one here will never say that, i won't too... Hmm....i know what you mean when you say it,but "Stand in front of a mirror, pull up your shirt sleeve, flex, unflex, watch how the flesh moves etc."seem...gay.  |
Posted By: onek
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 5:06am
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sry for unrelated post but,
this thread <--- O_o wth?! |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 5:17am
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Who knows? I feel the some way. I just don't get why is this post mad at me so much,i know i got alot to learn,but dang is i'm really that hopeless lol. Maybe i should stop asking things. |
Posted By: cele1989
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 4:45am
I don't know if this helps, but you can also just look at dummies, rather then yourself or other naked people.  This is something I learned at the academy about proportions. Divide your piece in 4 main and 8 smaller pieces. The top main part will take the head, neck and shoulders, the second main part will take the torso, the third main part will be for the upper legs, and the fourth main part will take the under legs and the feet. The hand will come up to the middle of the upper legs. Women tend to have wider hips and less shoulders. Men are opposite. They have smaller hips and wider shoulders. It might be a good thing to get a wooden man for certain poses. I bought mine at an art store for 7 euros.  If you want something more cartoonish, you can crop the parts or exaggerate them. A Barbie is a good example. Barbies tend to have way to long legs, and really short torsos and big breasts. Long necks, giant eyes and lips,... Btw, breast mostly aren't really a circle, more like half an oval.  Some people use circles for the joints and then connect them. I think it's more important to have the proportions and poses right, rather then knowing how the chest of a man looks, you do want to give him clothing, so you won't really see the muscles or ribs or anything else. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 6:06am
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What you are saying is really really help, and i well like to get this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B000JGF40G/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_all - See
all 6 customer images And wth?! Barbie! that is sooo random. If you had said someone from "family guy" or something i well be like maybe, but barbie? Why would we draw a "fag doll"? Anyway, back on the pose. I seen that pic before so i know what your saying. And why post on this post again?  
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Posted By: Leath
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 8:05am
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mmm, I liked that rabbit and the posing lady. Looking pretty good. You get better every time you draw, it is just a slow process. People are not mad at you. They are just pointing out things in your art and behavior; giving you orientations. This is the "Work in Progress" section of the PJ forums. Most people come here posting a rough picture and ask for advice on how to improve. Other users come willing to give all sorts of tips. We are only trying to help one another. Even though some critics may sounds harsh, blunt or rude, the intentions are usually good ones. You post an unfinished character and asked what should you add to him. However, because the sprite looks so rudimentary, it is only fair others would give suggestions / criticism. Now, if you are serious about learning, you will practice and look for lessons (tutorials, classes, advice, etc). I would recommend looking for ElectricAsylumArt in youtube and following his tutorials patiently. But if you truly believe you have reached your apex, you are fully satisfied with what you can currently render, then you should just give him a face, and maybe buttons or sewing threads on the shirt... |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 9:11am
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1.Thanks you for that.I am a slow and fast learner, it was like 4 or 5 months ago before i got my serious...it's not easy dealing with myself sometimes,i got to push myself more thats all. Yes i saw that "Work in Progress" sigh.So thats what it is for, oooohhh. And all this time i post my work here to show you what my full done work looks like. :P "It is only fair others would give suggestions / criticism" I do not mind that. Just expect my sarcasm. "if you are serious about learning, you will practice and look for lessons (tutorials, classes, advice, etc)." It may or not look like it, but i been practicing tutorials, classes, advice, etc. Like i said before it's really me, why i am not good. (wow i said it on this post like 4 time.) And why are we still using this post anyway??? And,i well not do pixel art until i am better at least 5 poses,like walking and etc,and to get good at that i need to do anatomy,color,and etc. And yes it well take along time for me, so bare with me. (or not,it do not matter.) |
Posted By: cele1989
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 9:42am
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Originally posted by Seddey And wth?! Barbie! that is sooo random. If you had said someone from "family guy" or something i well be like maybe, but barbie? Why would we draw a "fag doll"? Some of my friends rip a Barbie from their sister as an example of human figure. (Even though I'm a girl) I just hate Barbies and never even played with them when I was little. They are ugly and their proportions suck big time. That's why I bought myself a wooden stickman! |
Posted By: Leath
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:42am
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Originally posted by Seddey And why are we still using this post anyway??? And,i well not do pixel art until i am better at least 5 poses,like walking and etc,and to get good at that i need to do anatomy,color,and etc. And yes it well take along time for me, so bare with me. (or not,it do not matter.) I don't know, I saw this thread up and thought I would add to the discussion. Wouldn't make sense to derail the other one. ;) Well, keep practicing. Good luck and, more importantly, have fun. :) |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 4:32pm
| I see,and thank you. :D |
Posted By: Adcrusher
Date Posted: 20 May 2010 at 5:47pm
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I think this site http://www.posemaniacs.com - http://www.posemaniacs.com will help you. I use the random pose viewer and it helps a lot. |
Posted By: Seddey
Date Posted: 21 May 2010 at 1:54am
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I may use that site, thank you. And skamocore you can luck this one too and no i am going to stop doing my art. bye and thanks |