MX Biker WIP
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Category: Pixel Art
Forum Name: WIP (Work In Progress)
Forum Discription: Get crits and comments on your pixel WIPs and other art too!
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Printed Date: 30 September 2025 at 5:10am
Topic: MX Biker WIP
Posted By: Guert
Subject: MX Biker WIP
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 3:53pm
Hey everyone!
I'm currently working on this piece and I'm having some troubles with it. I'm not quite sure what bugs me in it so I decided to show you guys to see if you could help me out.
What do you think? What's wrong with it?

Thanks a whole bunch! (The pink is going to be invisble ;)) Guert
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Replies:
Posted By: Fhqwhgads
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 5:43pm
AAA PILLOW SHADING!!!
NJ tho!
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 6:32pm
Thx. How can I avoid doing the pillow shading?
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:48am
Find a lightsource and stick with it. Try a few shading tuts.
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 3:28pm
Ok, so I started all over the colors. I'll keep you informed on what I'm doing.
Thanks alot for helping me with this one, I would have looked real lame there! ;) Later! Guert
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 6:52am
Ok, so how is this one coming in? Same linework, different light source and coloring. I focused on the helmet. I'll add the blue stripes later... So how is it coming?

Thanks a bunch everyone! Guert
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 7:31am
This is like 10 times better. :D
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Posted By: Filax_666
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 8:46am
Some dithering wouldn't hurt
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 10:29am
This is for a sprite and I don't have much color rectrictions. Is more colors better than dithering?
Any other major problems you can see? Thanks alot! Guert
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 10:33am
Dithering will help smooth out the transition between two colours. I
think its more rewarding to finish a piece with a lower colour count
however if adding more colours looks better i would stick with that.
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 5:31pm
Here's a place with a dithering tut: http://spirteart.com - SpriteArt
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 5:49pm
for a sprite, if its gonna be animated and/or have a lot of frames. use more colours. dithering is a lot more work
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 5:05am
Thanks guys!
Yes, this pic will be lightly animated. I'm gonna try both technics and see what works best for me... I'll keep you noticed on the development!
Thanks alot! Guert
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 7:00pm
Ok, so here's what I've done so far. I tried some cross hatching dithering. I don't know if it's a known technic or if it condemned by pixel artists, but it felt natural to me since I did alot of comic book style illustrations.
How is it comin'? Thanks alot! Guert

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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 7:03pm
The whole helmet just looks so awesome :D.
The cross hatching looks a bit dodgy on the left pec and toso. The
line separating his shoulder and bicep also needs smothing.
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 3:49pm
Hey there!
Thanks for the tips. I'll be workin' on those. Thanks for the nice comment too! I'll post a new version when I'll have it. Thanks again! Guert
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 12:24am
Awesome work so far. You're really coming along! Keep up the good work!
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Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 7:21am
I think the highlights on the shirt are too intense.. maybe make the lightest two colors a bit more grey, that'll make for a smoother transition between shades and the dithering wont stand out too much.
And, yea, that's a sweet looking helmet!
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Posted By: randomblink
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 7:22am
wow... I was impressed with the pillow shading piece... But then you actually did a better job and it looks sharp as hell now... Way to go man...
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 7:35am
I love WIPs where the artist actually updates the image with major
improvements, not just something that rots away.
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Posted By: randomblink
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 11:33am
Yeah... like most of mine do... rot that is...
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 31 December 2005 at 5:15am
Hello everyone!
Hey, thanks alot for all the nice comments! I'm very happy that you guys took time to reply!
Ok, so heres what I've done now. I did most of my shadings/ hatchings and I believe I am satisfied with it for now. I used less dark grey and more hatching on the shirt so that it smooths the colors out. I did very little hatching on the hands because it caused the fingers to bour the thing too much and looked too messy. Now, all that is left to do is that freakin' mouth breathing thingy and some fixing on issues that'll be pointed out.
Ah yes, Leel, the reason why I am going to use some very intense highlight on the shirt is that this piece is to be displayed on a gba and color definition ain't great. Since I don't know yet how it's gonna turn out, I use those shadings. But I will try it with less intense shading if it's not turning up well.
Here it is:

Thanks alot once again for all the nice coments! Take care all! Guert
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 31 December 2005 at 5:32am
I think HIS right wrist is too small. also the black line around the
elbow travels too far into the body. I think the "freakin' mouth
breathing thingy" is fine.
Keep at it
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 31 December 2005 at 6:45pm
I agree. I'd also try for the area on his chest below his arms darkening it a bit. It would be darker than the top of his chest because his arms would cast shadow. I believe.
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 3:10pm
Hey there guys!
I'm gonna be gone for a week so I won't update this until tuesday, but I'm writing the wrist and shadow thing down on my "NEXT THINGS TO DO" list. You're both right on these issues, thanks for spotting them!
I'll post it whenever it's ready. Thanks again and take care all! Guert
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Posted By: alkaline
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 7:42pm
this is definitely a huge improvement from the beginning. I like pieces that do that.
the hands look a little weird. moreso on the left part, it might be
that the fingers are kind of funny or that you can't see the thumb. and
maybe if his right hand was clenched more.
but, fantastic improvements.
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 4:33pm
Hey there!
Ok, I'm back and workin' on this piece as we speak. I'll take a good look at those hands, thanks for the pointer. I now have to make a animation of this so I'll post it when I'm through with the first version. Thanks again! Guert
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 6:50pm
Hey there guys!
Ok, so I've been trying to animate this darn thing for the past week and realized that it still had numerous issues to fix. So, I restarted the colors again. I made my colors less distinct from each others (now, they kind of blend together, as a whole). The eyes hurt less looking at the pic! ;) Also, I changed some colors and added a second light source from the back. I'm going to add more details, like logos and stuff, but I want to know if there are some new mistakes from the new work.
Ah yes, I had to crop the image.

I'm not much of a pixel artist but it's fun learning it! :D Thanks again for the help! Take care! Guert
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Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 6:54pm
I prefered the dithering on the last one. This one looks like the shading is a pure color and it just turns me off.
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by Souly
I prefered the dithering on the last one.
I agree, you took a step backward here. I like the second light source.
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 9:44am
helmet on the old one was way better, however i guess you have to
keep it consistant.
at least your actually editing your work
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 2:28pm
I actually like the newer one as opposed to the old dithering. There
just seemed to be a lot going on with all the dithering. This one is
better, I think. Cleaner and simpler.
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 4:34pm
Hmmm... Two directions on this new version. Ok, I'll keep workin' on it. I'll try fixing the hand and adding more colors to blend the shadings together. Since this more like a big splash animation, I don't think the dithering makes it more high quality, but then, the only way to find this out is for me to go both ways. I'll post a new version when possible!
Thanks again for the comments! Guert
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 8:37am
Ok, new version, this time, i think it'sa pretty much done, unless something is pointed out.

Fixed some shadow issues, fixed the hands and other minor things I don't remember now.
Later! Guert
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:55am
I think that it looks great. But I think the shading from the
lightsource from behind might be a bit off on the jacket. I think this
might be fixed if you mde the darker strand of shading just before the
yellowish color a little lighter so the contrast isn't as harsh? I also
think that the pointy part of the jacket on the left side could be not
so pointy? :P
The lightsource shading on the helmet is perfect. :)
The glasses also aren't really round looking. This might not have been
your purpose with this, but the line seems a bit jagged on the side
just before the strap. Fixing it might make it look better.
Anyway, it's really a fantastic improvement, I think. :) 
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 10:00am
this is such an improvment on the origignal. i love it. just tone down
the harshness of yellow on the jacket and your done
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Posted By: Guert
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 7:03pm

And voilà! :D I think I'm pretty much done now, unless theres something more on this! Once again, thanks alot for all the comments! It really helped me out on this piece! :)
Thanks again and take care! Guert
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