Will PA die?
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Topic: Will PA die?
Posted By: Friend
Subject: Will PA die?
Date Posted: 18 August 2011 at 10:13am
| We all know that PA is already considered retro. Looking ahead 20, 30, 50 years from now, will PA still be used for videogames? And what about PA as an art medium? |
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Posted By: ekobor
Date Posted: 18 August 2011 at 4:24pm
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I'm pretty sure the only way pixel based art will die entirely is of every possible medium for it goes extinct. Which would be difficult, as humans like grids.
Even if we somehow remove the computer element (either some cataclysm or we advance to graphics not using smaller building blocks(hard to imagine)) there will still be things like http://www.pixelgasm-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2650 - bead sprites , http://wis.wcg.com/sp/web/news_photo/upload/20060906/zeldacomp.jpg - pixel painting , and http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/24387022_1a4885fe9f.jpg - post its . Even http://media.techeblog.com/images/mario_pixel_4.jpg - food , http://media.photobucket.com/image/post%20it%20pixel/littlegraypixel/Blog/pixelcubes.jpg - Rubik's cubes , http://thisiscolossal.com/2011/05/a-portrait-of-tobias-wong-using-13138-dice/ - dice and http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs24/i/2008/012/9/3/Moltres__graph_paper_sprite_by_Hawkstar5.jpg - graph paper can be used. I believe that as long as there exists a medium, the art will continue. Whether the form it takes can or will still be considered "pure", I don't know. But the essence of pixel based art will still be there. Humans segregate things to easily understand them, and pixel art makes use of that. As for video games, things with low res graphics are still enticing if done right. Look at Minecraft for that. Nothing there is overly mind blowing, but the usage of it makes it addictive. Sprites are good place holder if noting else, something that a new game designer can use to show the possibilities of their work. And handhelds, while getting more powerful, still don't have the power for full-on 3D rendered graphics. So, yeah. tl;dr: Even if it dies as a gaming instrument (though nostalgia and ease of use deem this unlikely) for it to die as an art form entirely would likely take a world-wide change in human understanding, technology and/or interest. {e} Also, is it becoming a trend that I am the first to answer your threads? |
Posted By: Friend
Date Posted: 18 August 2011 at 4:39pm
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I agree completely about PA in videogames. Actually I find pixel art based videogames to be the most aesthetically enjoyable. (the reason I ended up here in the first place.) The rest of your answer is very enlightening, thank you! I know sometimes good things die, and I really hope PA never does. You know, you don't have to answer my threads even if they're empty. I'm totally fine as a lone wolf. Though of course replies are like very warm gifts to me 
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Posted By: divtag
Date Posted: 18 August 2011 at 5:16pm
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i was thinking about Motoi Yamamoto.... he work with salt, not one grain at a time, but close enough to call it pixel-level-art i think.      link to his homesite: http://www.motoi.biz/english/e_top/e_top.html%20 - http://www.motoi.biz/english/e_top/e_top.html and blog: http://www.art-it.asia/u/ab_yamamotom/?y=&m=&d=&ca1=1&lang=en - http://www.art-it.asia/u/ab_yamamotom/?y=&m=&d=&ca1=1&lang=en |
Posted By: CELS
Date Posted: 18 August 2011 at 6:06pm
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The concept of using smaller elements to create a larger whole is never going to disappear from art. But pixelart in its strictest sense will probably disappear. And by 'disappear', I'm not saying that it will be completely eradicated. There are plenty of old artforms that are still available. But how many artists create new etchings these days? A very tiny minority. One important reason why pixelart has stuck around, I think, is because early mobile phones had many of the same restrictions as early computers. Small screens, limited amount of pixels, lack of colors, etc. This led to a renaissance of old computer games. But it is doubtful that something like that will ever happen again, as the technology has progressed so far. Pixelart is born out of actual restrictions, as many artforms have been, but now it's more a matter of artificial restrictions - like using 8 mm film to make movies. Will people still use 8 mm film in 100 years, when it no longer carries any real sense of nostalgia? For the most part, no. Do people today still create silent films with intertitles instead of actual audio dialogue? For the most part, no. Hell, even today, I have trouble explaining pixel art to people who see me drawing on my computer. Even people my own age. "You use MS Paint!? Hey, I can give you photoshop, mate." |
Posted By: HCGamer
Date Posted: 22 August 2011 at 12:39pm
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It better not die, or my company, Underground Pixel, will surely die with it. xD ------------- This is not a sig, look away now. Go on, get. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 31 August 2011 at 7:37pm
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The end of pixelart is said to be looming after every new gadget comes out but then another gadget comes out that needs it. Soon enough something new will show up and it will need pixels. So long as monitors and screens use pixels, pixelart will find its way.
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Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 31 August 2011 at 11:45pm
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'retro' doesn't quite encapsulate all of pixel art. That represents only its most popular manifestations outside of the pixel community. http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=8110.msg111699#msg111699 - On the reinvigorated interest in retro art, pixel art and the demoscene I dunno if it'll still be used for games (though it seems likely there will continue to be indie pixel titles, at least), but there's no reason it would stop being a viable medium for artistic expression. Or none that I can think of, anyway. |
Posted By: divtag
Date Posted: 01 September 2011 at 2:25am
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That was a great link to help understand pixeling, cure. The more i dig into pixeling the more i realize what a huge field this really is. |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 01 September 2011 at 5:47am
| I think pixel art will dissapear as soon as pixels dissapear. When screens are developed that do not consist of square or RGB elements, pixel art makes no sense and when the pixel goes extinct nobody cares about pixel art anymore either. Before that moment it might rise or sink, but there will always be enthusiasts! |
Posted By: divtag
Date Posted: 01 September 2011 at 12:51pm
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yes, and..... as long as the smallest part of any screen is posible to manipulate, there wil be "pixel"Art:-).... or liquidArt .. or whatever. |
Posted By: Qemist
Date Posted: 15 September 2011 at 11:44am
| Whatever right? :D |
Posted By: Friend
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 2:46pm
| Yes sir ^ |