Challenge piece not approved
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Topic: Challenge piece not approved
Posted By: Long
Subject: Challenge piece not approved
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:07am
Still a couple of hours before the deadline, so what should be added /altered to get this into the gallery?
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Posted By: tanuki
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:17am
I can't say for sure why it was sent back, but I do think it seems too much like random static and doesn't have enough actual content. At this time there's a little over 14 and a half hours left. :)
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Posted By: Long
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:58am
Posted By: tanuki
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 10:20am
Like the kind of static you might see on a tv screen that doesn't have a good signal, like this- http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/java/exp/figs/je1404.gif - link
Here I see a horizon with land and sky, and something in the sky that I think might be the moon, but the majority of the image is a randomly placed pattern that looks kind of like static. Try adding some content to the land like maybe a river or some buildings. :)
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Posted By: Long
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 10:47am
I see, I always tohught that is called noise.
Here I tried to squeeze out more "colors" add more depth
In this attempt I tried adding some content, I guess.
And this one is an application attempt of the river idea(my favourite attempt so far)
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Posted By: tanuki
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 11:08am
oh it can be called noise too. I think the third one looks good, but so does the second one.
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 11:21am
Oddly enough even though it seems controlled it is not controlled enough for pixelart classification...odd piece to label and could/may be taken as an experiment of some sort had your gallery shown that you have the experience to back up your 'process'. Because of its lack then its kinda safe to assume you were a tad lazy, imprecise and uncontrolled...it comes down to control on the pixel level most often :/
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Posted By: Long
Date Posted: 04 March 2012 at 11:47am
I guess its time to elaborate my thoughts behind this experiment.
As you have seen in my gallery(3 pieces still awaiting a revisit), in my most recent pieces, I've tried to avoid the usage of single pixels.
Also I've always wondered about the 'every pixel counts' mindset if pixels fuse to form clusters don't they lose their individual meaning?In order to retain that every pixel needs to have a color that differs from it neighbors.
The canvas had one side that is divisible by 2 and one that is divisble by 3 which allows for it to be tiled with L-shaped clusters.
All of this had led me to attempt this experiment, I was hoping for the L-clusters to be not as noisy as single pixels.
As for the lack of experience I've seriously started working with pixels 7 years ago and I think I gathered quite a lot of experience while always trying to explore further into the subject.
As for being lazy yeah its true I'm the laziest person I know(tiling the canvas was done by hand though, I can't think of an efficient algorithm to do this since there are instances with multiple equal choices), but I think that pixel art can benefit from laziness(color conservation, cluster conservation).
Worked a bit on the river scene, so is this worth resubmitting or not,well in any case I regard this to be a succesful experiment, because I encounterd a 'nice look', what I'm also fond of in this approach is that it solely relies on colors.
EDIT:
Guess I'm gonna go ahead and resubmitt this/test my luck.
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