Brass
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Category: Pixel Art
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Printed Date: 06 September 2025 at 7:18am
Topic: Brass
Posted By: Larwick
Subject: Brass
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 2:52pm
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I've always been interested in manga and all that, and have piles of sketches, drawings and failed attempts and digitally colouring them about my bedroom. I stumbled upon an old box and found some drawings of a character i had created years ago. Most of them were pretty shabby, but some were quite cool. So yeah, i felt like a change, so i thought about pixelling her. Her name is 'Brass' for some reason, i think because she was the rival of some other character called Silver.. or something. Anyway, enough of my life story, here's the pixel art: -------------  http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:01pm
wow i like it! don't know about the hair, but the face looks great, so hurry up and update! 
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:49pm
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Yeah i might change the hair at a later stage. Also, the shoulders, neck and hand are bothering me, but i'm sure i'll get onto fixing them soon.
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Posted By: ChromeX
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:49pm
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Yeah, it's nice... I'd like to see how it would look when colored. Also, the eyebrow goes over the hair... is that how it was supposed to be made? (This was written before the above post was posted... lol) |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:13pm
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Cheers, i edited the eyebrow slightly. And here it is with a rough pallette: (I got it wrong, theres 15 colours at the moment...)
I think i should sort out her neck... what do you think? Does it look ok? Aaaaah! ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:34pm
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Both the tattoo and the eyelashes seem to make it look weird. The lip shade is too similar to the skin shade. Try looking in a mirror or something. I love the hair and general face shape though. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com"> 
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 5:46pm
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I think the "logo" tattoo looks vain and self indulgent. I would make
her ponytail (or something else) the shape of the logo so that its
there in a clever "er" way.
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:05pm
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or just embroidery on the clothes ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 3:24am
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You mean i'm vain and self indulgent or the character is? Cus we both kindof are... Lol, that's an interesting idea jalonso, i hadn't thought of that. Although the character before had a circle on her cheek, you think that would look ok? Or i could just leave it bare i suppose, it's a tad boring though ^_^ Update: In the most detailed drawing she's wearing this jacket, i'd show you if i could (my scanner's broken) but yeah, i have to add a load of detail to it, and its gunna be hard (but FUN). I know her head is quite large, i'll just say it's a style (well, it is really). ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: fil_razorback
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 6:25am
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Can I have a rendez-vous with her? :D
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Posted By: alkaline
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 7:10am
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Big head mode! I think her neck color is a bit too green, but other than that it's coming out okay. |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 8:00am
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Argh, my mate always turned that on when we used to play goldeneye, sooo annoying!
There's something wrong with her finger i cant quite pinpoint.. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 9:05am
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the light source on the hair seems to be from the top, but on the
jacket it seems to come from the left. great start, its cool to see how other artists work. ------------- Snark, we love yuu. |
Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 9:08am
her fingers are not connected properly,there should be more connected at the base of the hand. She's kinda of umm cute....I think I'm in love with a fictional character.....I LIKE BRUNETTS. ------------- http://www.shmup-dev.com/forum/"> 
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 9:23am
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Very nice, I like the ponytail "logo" this way better. As for the
lightsource I would experiment with several, in diff colors to add drama/movement to her situtation. I have no doubt this will turn out great since you always manage to in the end. ps. By vanity I meant you not her. Sometimes you sign in a distracting manner that takes away from the piece (the cave, for example). ------------- |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 12:59pm
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Cheers guys. I forgot to add the upper lightsource to the shoulders etc, silly me. Also, i took away the kink in the shadow on her face, i thought it made her look weird. Might have to check out more reference to get it right. Update:
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Didn't do much this time.Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 5:33pm
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the ponytail that wraps round looks like part of the jacket collar. it
looks to solid aswell not like hair. is your aim to get every male and or lesbians on this site to fall in love with your character?  ------------- Snark, we love yuu. |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 5:52pm
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i dont think you should make her lips pink.. either define them more or get rid of the pink altogether - it looks kinda smeared right now, i think getting rid of the pink would make it cleaner/more manga-like..but thats just me.. and yeah, she's pretty hot |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 6:02pm
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Lol yeah, i'll mess up the hair a little more in that area, thanks for pointing it out Shark. And leel, you're probably right, now that i look back i think i preffered her without the pink. The reason i didnt make it more clear was because she sort of looked like a whore then. Eheh. And cheers for the compliments, i'm sure if she was real she'd be flattered. But she isn't so... PWNED! er.. I think i've finished the updating for today, i'll continue tomorow though. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 6:04pm
What's the little red thing?  ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Bryan24
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 6:18pm
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The little red thing is the liquid in the glass Idiot! ------------- Revive the bannana thread, and keep the pomegrantate thread! P.S.The bannana thread is supposed to not make sense. P.S.S.or dollars |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 6:30pm
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I have just noticed quite a few anatomical problems (apart from the large head, i mean). They will be fixed in the next update (hopefully). ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 7:00pm
Oh! I never noticed the glass! I feel so stupid now!  ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 7:04pm
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Well the glass is sitting akwardly in the hand and without some diff
coloration it does blend in. Maybe the base of the glass should show a
little.
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 7:04pm
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Yes! I will have to tint it latar. And woah, 'snap' - jalonso with the post. I agree it would be best to have it show, being a short glass rather than having it concealed and leaving to the imagination that the stand for it is very small. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Bifur
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 7:24pm
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I think the glass if fine , but some highlight would make it more consistent, the haird is awesome ( even tho it has a different highligt i dont know if it was intentional ------------- 
I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow... |
Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 8:39pm
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Her fingers are either too long or they sepearte at the base of the hand too soon. ------------- http://www.shmup-dev.com/forum/">
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Posted By: inkspot
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 3:29am
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Gass is lacking material, tint it and shade it properly. ------------- 
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 8:27am
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-i think the left arm's shading makes it appear to much as separate balls, rather -then one arm. ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 8:29am
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Yarr i think i'm going to redo the hand and glass, i messed up too much in the lineart. Cheers peeps. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 9:35pm
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I love the skin colors. :) Excellent work. :)
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 12:55pm
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Ooh cheers Aleiav, although i sort of changed them when i edited the pallette... do you think i should change the skin colour back? Or any of them in fact?
I thought i'd post it now because i wanted to know what you guys thought of the hand and mug aswel. Thanks for your time, in advance. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Bifur
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 2:55pm
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ffingers are still bit long aren they? and the space between the 90°angle finger (yeah i dont remember the name) and the other fingers are a tad bigger then normal at least i think , as everbody know im no genius in anatomy -------------
I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow... |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 4:52pm
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thumb you mean? the hand does seem long, it's coming lovely :) ------------- http://sj-gfx.com"> 
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 4:56pm
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Oh yes, i see now. I pushed the hand forward forgetting about the thumb. Thanks alot for pointing it out guys. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 5:03pm
The hand looks weird, almost masculine. Maybe a ref photo is needed.
The colors are awesome. Perhaps your *wick* logo could be an
earring? 
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 2:23am
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Lol, i used a ref photo... it was my own hand >.< so yeah, i'll need to search google or something. I really rushed that hand sketch though, i'll update soon. And the earring idea sounds good, although im not so sure, i'll give it a go and see. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 23 July 2006 at 6:07am
 Hmm... meh. I want to get this finished.------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: fil_razorback
Date Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:44am
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So cuuuuuuute ^^ Awesome, as usual :) |
Posted By: alkaline
Date Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:50am
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Thumb looks sorta detached from the hand. And I think one shade darker on the pupil would help? uhhhhhhh and teh bottom outline on the glass is too dark from heavy AA probably. Keep it up dawg! ------------- |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 23 July 2006 at 5:55pm
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still love the skin colors. :) I agree with what alk said about the thumb. I think it would be cool to make her glass all shiny gold! :P ------------- |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 4:27am
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I think it's wonderful work. It's got a great style.
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Posted By: PixelInk
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 10:03am
| Its pieces like this that make me come back to PixelJoint, I love the tones, the individual shapes and the progression of the edge lines that consistently suit the depth at every stage. |
Posted By: Morgan
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 2:47pm
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This is really lovely. My only critique would be the shading on the hair... the lightest part seems to get wider as you go from the side to the top of the head, and it seems to that it would do the opposite.
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Posted By: Tremulant
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 4:44pm
| This is a fantastic piece, Lar. The thumb detachedness thing is all that bother me at this point. Lovely, lovely. |
Posted By: iSTVAN
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 6:45pm
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Her pose looks pretty awkward to me. For someone with such a despondent expression you'd think she'd choose a less strainful way to sit.
I think the problem begins with the far shoulder- or lack of far shoulder! By pushing the shoulder out you'd correct both this awkwardness and her oversized head. It'd also mean you wouldn't have to worry about all those annoying jaggies on her (HER) right arm.
You've got the skills to make this look really ace, and, in my opinion, your brilliant colouring has shone light on an otherwise dull piece of line art. ------------- Listen to what the flower people say... 
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 11:27am
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Osht. With a darkening of the pupils (thanks alk) and a lowering of the mouth i hath created...  A much more pouty one and yet a character with much more personality. Huzzah. I also think it's more anatomically correct. I also had a go at bringing the shoulder in a little, which does look better (thanks iST) and fixed the thumb a little (thanks everyone) and cleaned up a few more n00by lines (still more to go). Ive also used an orange from the gold colour to highlight the hair a tad more. The current hair highlights were very drafty so i'll deff have to fix them (thanks Morgan). Still lots more to do though. Cheers to everyone for your comments! ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: iSTVAN
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 4:32pm
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Nice update, but keep on pushing that shoulder out, and make sure to bring the breast with it! Alternatively you could bring the closer shoulder down a bit, either way, I still think there are some perspective issuses. I'd recommend photographing someone in the position and compare it to your work. If I have time I'll have a go at taking a photo for you. ------------- Listen to what the flower people say...
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 4:37pm
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Cheers iSTVAN. A photo would be great, if you can, because i can't due to technical difficulties, and i couldnt find a good enough reference on googell. I did bring out her 'chest' a little, although it was pretty much guesswork. I'll keep on fiddling with her shoulders and see what i can do. I agree i really should have worked on the lineart a bit more before i started colouring, seems i was a bit hasty (everyday i keep noticing how wrong the neck seems). But yeah, i shall keep at it. Wh00t. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 6:29pm
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FINISH!
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Posted By: iSTVAN
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 12:37am
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Ah, my camera currently not working at the moment, which is a shame because I would really love to pose for this shot. I think I've got similar hair to her and I can certainly pull off girly if I put my mind to it. ------------- Listen to what the flower people say...
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Posted By: Saboteur
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:41am
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You neglected to mention you're glowing with natural beauty.
(Nothing crit-wise to declare.) ------------- "I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business." |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:44am
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Originally posted by iSTVAN Ah, my camera currently not working at the moment, which is a shame because I would really love to pose for this shot. I think I've got similar hair to her and I can certainly pull off girly if I put my mind to it. That made my day. and here's the challenge, you yourself must hold a mug of steaming hot coffee... how long will he last?!?! ------------- |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:46am
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LMao, no worries iSTVAN, that comment was good enough. XD
I'll get an update up soon, there's probs quite alot of things to crit in it. I havent brought the nearest shoulder down yet, as that'll be alot of work with all the detail there. But yuss, cheers people. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:32am
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Good to see that you're still working on this, the only problem I see that hasn't been fixed or mentioned recently is the thumb. It seems like it could be going around the other side of the cup, being opposable, but it looks like a 6th finger between the index finger and thumb right now.
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:42am
#10
 Tried to fix some things, just thought i'd show what i've done so far. Cheers for the comment MoD. =D ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 11:23am
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Cheek Definition? Perhaps, or she has a smooth face. I don't know.
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 14 August 2006 at 2:43pm
#11
 @Skull: I tried adding cheek deff earlier and it completely changed her 'look' to something i didn't like. Perhaps i could do it some other way which works, but for the moment i don't think i'll bother. ~Worked on the hair alot in this update (Although it's still in very much WIP stages). I think the loss of the two highlight tones makes the hair look much nicer, like chocolate =D ~Fixed some other things aswel. I think i'm working on taking out the darkest blackish colour altogether, but it'll be hard seeing as it is needed to define her necktop thingey etc. ~I'm also having some trouble with the shading of the shoulderpads etc. But mowel. Thanks for the comment Skull. Wh00t. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Swiifty
Date Posted: 14 August 2006 at 4:29pm
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A wonderful piece you got there. The biggest "flaw" I would say is the hand that is holding the glass. Try holding a glass yourself and you will see that you rather have firm grip around that glass, which means that thumb wouldn't be that visible. But if you want it that way, thats okey too. One other thing about the hand. The index finger shouldn't be longer than the middle finger as it looks on the picture. And as nearly everyone else already mentioned, the fingers seem to be a little too long. ------------- |
Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:07pm
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Originally posted by Larwick
~I'm also having some trouble with the shading of the shoulderpads etc. heres a quick and dirty for yoo. 
maybe that's not what you want but that's what came to mind. hope et halps. imo the neck looks real weird and the darkest face shade seems like a better colour for it. and the hand looks pretty whack but when i tried to edit i couldn't get anything either. maybe do a redraw of the hand? depends how much tweaking you wanna do. *lurks again* |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 4:27am
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Haha thanks guys.
I suppose i probably will do a complete redraw of the hand, something more ladylike i guess. Apart from the middle finger and index finger comparisons, i can't see anything wrong with the length of the fingers... it will sort of matter, even if i am redrawing, that i know how large they should be. I'll snap 'em a few pixels short next time and see how it looks. Thanks alot for the edit Akira, i can see now that a change of texture etc. might be in order. I'll have a few tries with some things and see what i get. And i agree with you that the neck looks odd, not only because of the colour of it too. Once i've finished the hair, or am in the process of, i'll probably see what i can do to improve her neckkk. Thanks for the comments again. ~ ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 16 December 2006 at 11:07am
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DAM GLASS GEET OUTTA MA WAY.  Moved the head back and changed the palette aswel.
~mix of soft shading and cel shading.. does it work? ~hand.. eeeuuugrrrrhhh please say that's alright. if not, do say aswel actually. ~necks hate me so i didn't try much.
Yus. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 16 December 2006 at 12:19pm
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Nice edit.. Looks loads better without the glass.. which to start off was a bit random, but it also solves the problem of dealing with it later. The shading is great .. my only weird thing being the neck, seem to be in loads of shadow. ------------- |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 16 December 2006 at 4:00pm
Cheers Skull. I tried to fix the neck subtley.. hopefully there's an improvement. Also made touchups to the ear and some other places.
And I found this pretty interesting/amusing:
 And a slow version for those who don't appreciate such fast boob growth.  Lol. Ok, so unless there are any serious issues i'm gunna submit this to the gallery now. Glad she's finally finished.
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