Geek Speak Programming Talk
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Printed Date: 09 September 2025 at 9:34pm
Topic: Geek Speak Programming Talk
Posted By: Demon
Subject: Geek Speak Programming Talk
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 12:39am
Love the play on words. Well,
anyways, Thought I would make a topic for us programmers to talk about
some aspects of programming. So first question, what languages do
you know? This can also include Flash ActionScripting .
I know the following languages:
Visual Basic 6.0
ASP
Javascript
HTML/XHTML/XML 
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Posted By: kipton
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 3:42am
i guess i'm not cool enough for this one
i have some experience with java programming, but that's about it
to make text documents i use LaTeX though - does that give me any geek credits?
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Posted By: Rifts
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:10am
umm, i know
CSS
HTML
Some javascript
Actionscript,
an i thikn thats it :/
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Posted By: Brian the Great
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:12am
HTML
Whatever language Delphi 7 uses
GML?
I know, it's sad. I need some programming tits. I mean tuts.
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Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 4:19am
I know a little bit of ActionScript and Basic, but since I haven't used
either languages in quite a while I've forgotten most of it...
I also used to know Robotic, the language used in Megazeux, but again:
I haven't used it in a long time so I've forgotten nearly everything.
Stupid memory.
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Posted By: sedgemonkey
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 10:53am
Once you program a little bit you'll see that most common languages all work from the same "base" and are pretty easy to learn. Learn a language based on Basic, Perl and C and you'll be able to pick up almost anything.
- Basic - Visual Basic, VB.NET, ASP (VB Script)
- Perl - PHP
- C - C++, C#, Java, JavaScript, ActionScript
If you are interested in Web Development you have to learn XML, CSS and know everything about HTML. You also should invest some time learning how to use SQL with MSSQL, MySQL and Oracle to be a real superstar. And last but not least... learn how to use Regular Expressions.
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 11:31am
Spoken like an experience programmer. :) Here's another question
to go along with the first one. How long have you been
programming those languages?
VB6 - 5 Years
ASP - 1 1/2 Years
XHTML/XML/Javascript - a couple months
HTML - 7 years
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Posted By: Psychotic_Carp
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 9:32pm
im capable of editing most online type scripts (PHP, HTML, XHTML, css, ect.)
but for some reason I just cant understand the innner workings of PHP not sure whats causing the block in my head I hope to get it at some point.
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Posted By: TakeOut
Date Posted: 14 June 2005 at 3:44pm
I'm skilled in:
html/xhtml/xml, actionscript (will help alot if I decide to make pixel games, I'll submit them to here if I do :D), and css
I know little of:
php, javascript, c++, asp
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Posted By: Howling
Date Posted: 16 June 2005 at 2:56am
PHP, HTML, XHTML and CSS + a very little bit of javascript and actionscript.
I only script in XHTML Strict nowadays (though don't visit my own homepage, it isn't yet )
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Posted By: Funkapotamus
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:09am
I know: c/c++/c#, java, cobol, php, perl, (visual)basic
FYI: The "ML"s (HTML, etc.) arn't programming languages. They're markup languages. CSS isn't a language at all, it's just one feature of HTML and hence, isn't a programming language either.
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:17pm
lol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff.
And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt
a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language. 
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Posted By: sedgemonkey
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 6:48pm
Woah now fellas. Programming is a relative term. All the techs mentioned above (HTML, CSS, XML) are all used in close relationship with many web programming languages so it's all good.
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Posted By: pixelblink
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 7:26pm
umm... I'm sorry to say I'm not THAT big of a geek. I've only made a site once or twice and used Frontpage for all of it. I do plan to get a bit more into it in the future but, I'm retarded
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Posted By: TakeOut
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 8:24pm
Programming does wonders if you plan to put your pixel art in games.
Which I know many pixel artists here might like. I came here to tone my
pixel art, cause I plan on making pixel games..
Right now I have a picross game in the works with a friend, and a
couple of my own games. I'd be glad to do a couple of joints with
members here. That was another reason I came here for.
I'm not that much of a geek either. Who says I can't pretain a social
life and still be cool just because I know a bunch of languages. I hate
labels.
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Posted By: pixelblink
Date Posted: 20 June 2005 at 10:45pm
lol... it was pure sarcasm on the geek bit, TakeOut. I'm as much a geek as anyone else here. Being a geek isn't a bad thing these days... take it all in stride dude.
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Posted By: Funkapotamus
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Demonlol, yes Funkapotamus, we know the correct terms for that stuff.
And yet I dont believe that will change anything. Oh ya, PHP isnt
a programming language either, its a server-side scripting language.
Actually, "scripting" refers to the fact that the language isn't precompiled. Perl and PHP are interpreted on the fly and thus are scripting languages. They are still programming languages.
The trait that defines a programming language as opposed to a markup language is the ability to deliberately access memory either directly (ex: assembly) or indirectly (ex: variable). Thus, PHP/Perl/Javascript are programming languages.
It is possible to precompile and otherwise optimize php/perl, but this is besides the point.
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 1:51pm
i know 1337 omglololololo!!!11!1one
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 2:52pm
No need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore
all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup
language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms
better.
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Posted By: Funkapotamus
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by DemonNo need to argue, but for the sake of simplicity how about we ignore
all that hoopajoop and just have some fun progamming/scripting/markup
language talk; instead of trying to prove who knows their terms
better.
I didn't know that discussing the classification of languages was considered "hoopajoop". I am apprantly mistaken- I was under the impression that such things fell under "fun language talk". It is a discussion about languages after all...
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 22 June 2005 at 5:46pm
Yes, though so far it has been an introduction into languages as in who
can program what, and how they came about programming. Kinda a
beginners session, but if you wanna talk advanced wise then thats kool.
:D No harm no fowl, I guess I misinterpreted your posts.
So, ya, I started breaking myself from Visual Basic, and I am starting
to program in REALbasic, very similar but compatible on pretty much all
OS's. I've also been looking at PHP, getting the hang of it, but
I dont have any real use for it like I use ASP. I wished ASP had
some of the features PHP had though, it would make ASP ALOT better. 
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Posted By: Chesheyre
Date Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:54pm
Off the top of my head I'd say I'm pretty proficient in HTML, CSS,
Javascript and some PHP, XML/XHTML and would like to become more fluent
but as I am not planning on programming for a living, they are not my
top priorities, hehe.
I mean, I learned most of those back from between the ages of 11 and 14
and I haven't really gotten back into the swing of things since..
Heh..
I figure I could learn some stuff from you guys, however :)
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 24 June 2005 at 12:37am
well XHTML is pretty much a cleaner version of HTML, meaning you have
to keep everything in order and close all tags. And <img
src=""> now ends like this <img src="" />, as well as
<br> = <br />. There are some other changes as well.
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Posted By: GoroUnreal
Date Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:18am
Visual Basic
ASP
A little bit of Javascript
HTML
and ActionScript
I really want to learn PHP though, I know where to learn but I just couldn't be bothered atm
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Posted By: Zoomrix
Date Posted: 23 July 2005 at 10:56am
HTML (of course)
CSS (very easy)
Some Java Script (too lazy to learn it all)
Some PHP (same as above ^)
Some ActionScript (haven't had the chance to learn much of it)
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Posted By: Ensellitis
Date Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:36pm
Know pretty much in and out:
HTML
CSS
PHP
Know enough to be dangerous:
Javascript
CGI/Perl
mySQL
Visual Basic
Women
C++
Python
Learning or know the basics:
ASP
Cold Fusion
Flash/Actionscripting
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Posted By: Core_12
Date Posted: 24 July 2005 at 7:14am
Strong languages:
XHTML, CSS, PHP, SQL, GML
Not-so-strong languages:
JS, Java, C/C++, Basic, mIRC script
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Posted By: Xion Night
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 4:07pm
I know nothing...
But I can always pretend that I do. 
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Posted By: 1ucas
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:24pm
mIRC scripting (for years, I'm "DukeNukem"), HTML, XHTML, CSS, XML, POV-Ray's SDL and PHP. I've been avoiding JS because it sucks, but I'll get to it soon... :|
I also know a tiny bit of C\C++, PERL and Python.
I really wish I was learning more and more but I haven't been very motivated lately....
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Posted By: Lawrence
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 9:16am
Just HTML, CSS and a tiny sprinkle of Javascript. I really want to learn PHP/ASP and make database stuff, but it's really hard.
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Posted By: scribe
Date Posted: 30 July 2005 at 3:11pm
Not as much as i should
Know
HTML/CSS/ IRC Script. (I've gotten rusty at HTML as i tend to use
Dreamweaver to code everything once i've finished in Photoshop.
Some
XHTML.
Bairly
PHP/Javascript.
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Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 7:05am
My turn? ok.
I know GML which isnt considered a serous language, it is used in ONE application,but gets the job done. I also know a small bit of C++, and of course most powerful of all TI Calculator!!
does anyone know a site for free compilers i want to learn BASIC, preferably with graphics commands.
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 05 September 2005 at 2:01pm
html, css, some javascript,
i wanna learn J2ME Java does anyone know any sites for beginners,
if not ill have to buy a book.
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Posted By: randomblink
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 7:01am
I can program in the following:
1. PHP - I prefer the Postnuke API environment. Postnuke has managed to take care of all the things that I feel are important to a basic site... Security, User Management, Sessions, etc...
2. Java - Minor experience, but understand the basics enough the I feel confident I could pick it up... The packages are what throws me... Haven't programmed enough in it is all...
3. Visual Basic - I code mainly in VBA right now. Writing custom database apps in Access and custom Word files as well with the ability to jump data between the two... I have Visual Basic Dot Net just waiting to be installed, just haven't had a chance.
4. C# - I haven't coded (per se) in C# but I have read enough that I feel I could put together a basic program with little hassle.
Those are the programming languages I know of and about... The scripting languages are as follows:
1. Javascript - I have done alot in Javascript, mainly mouseover effects, some game mechanics stuff for a game I worked on, and some minor image management stuff. I really like Javascript.
2. Flash / Actionscript - I have read several decent sized books. I understand the concepts, have written some minor code for Flash, my biggest problem so far is knowing WHERE to place your code? I feel comfortable enough that I think I could put together some Class files and basic code for a simple game, but I would be lost as to where to place the actual code! Bleh... still learning...
3. VBScript - I have done very little as I prefer Javascript, but I have put together minor scripts in VBScript for sites in the past...
Then of course theres...
1. HTML / XHTML / CSS - I prefer to do things in CSS, but now that I am picking up Pixel art... I think I will have to suspend some CSS in favor of tables so I can use self-created borders and such...
2. XML / XSL / XSLT / DTD - I have read and studied ALOT of XML, as for putting together XML files... creating XSL / XSLT and DTD files? I have not done so, but I understand the concept and I feel that I could manage to put together what was needed should I come across the need for it.
Now I also am confident and capable in working with the following Database Technologies...
1. MySQL / SQL - Having worked with MS Access from version 95 to XP I am very confident in writing SQL statements for data manipulation.
2. Access - If you need Access to do it, most likely I can make it do it... I have built everything from custom applications that I have sold to making game-related packages for managing data from games. I currently have two Data-Apps for the RPG System GURPS. I have a Galaxy Creator that will generate Single to Multiple Suns, the planets and asteroids that orbit those suns, which ones are in the Suns Biosphere meaning they can sustain carbon-based life, etc... It manages the planets and will manage their moons once I complete it.
And that is all I can think of... I like coding, but I also enjoy working with digital art... whether in Pixel-form or other media styles. I have stayed away from commercial products like Flash because my goal was to design webb-apps / games using Open Source languages (like PHP) in order to save clients the cost of purchasing software licenses so they can edit what I create for them...
However, in order to put together some games I am working on, I am forced to learn Flash because it will make alot of the projects just that much easier...
As for working with others on this site? I am wondering why we don't have some kind of Open Source game in the making...
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Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 8:26am
t randomblink no TI calculator?
Life must be so hard for you without this powerful and FLEXABLE language....
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Posted By: inkspot
Date Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:25am
German, english, estonian and a bit html.
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Posted By: neota
Date Posted: 08 September 2005 at 2:07am
Hmm.
* ASM (Z80 and Intel x86)
* Basic (Locomotive, Qbasic, GWBasic)
* Python [1]
* C (and C++ though it is a terrible language)
* Lua
* HTML
* some Javascript
* some shell script
[1] my language of choice.
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Posted By: Ork
Date Posted: 09 September 2005 at 2:58am
char* array2D = "GpewL2pq3mzxTh3iGze22iEx/m2h8zWm/r8i2>Qq2k2z{T2i8>j&g t;iiww2NeTfvs2";
int width = 8;
int height = 8;
int asciiOffset = 4;

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Posted By: me7356
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 1:00pm
I know English.
I know a little HTML, and some GML. Of course, I don't know any hard languages.
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 3:37am
GML, HTML, C++, and I tried to learn C# but its classes scared me. 
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Posted By: randomblink
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 6:19am
Awww man... Class rock.
But I have to admit... From the 10+ programming classes in various languages that I have been able to attend, I have yet to learn what a class is in a learning-environment. I have picked up classes accidentally on my own. If you want a few tips from a self-proclaimed genius? Here I is... chuckle
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Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 7:12am
Why the heck are graphics functions in languages like C++ and basic ignored in some books? Duh we alll knnow about loops and operators. That makes me REALLY mad!!! Nobody wants to use a dos looking window for games and apps.
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Posted By: Citizen_Insane
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:33am
I'm learning QBASIC and HTML...
so, does that mean I can be a geek?
..please?
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Posted By: randomblink
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 8:47am
Taps your shoulder with a keyboard...
Arise oh geek... and join the ranks of your brothers and sisters in code...
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