tactics character
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Category: Pixel Art
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Printed Date: 09 September 2025 at 9:26pm
Topic: tactics character
Posted By: dragonrc
Subject: tactics character
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:05am
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You may remember my old topic where I tried to make a rpg character and a spell. That didn't went that well so asked for help from a friend and he helped me with my spriting skills( I am really thankfull for that). I currently am working on a srpg and I made a sprite:
 I must say it really looks better than my old sprite
 .there are some things I want some help with.
-the front foot, my friend says most srpg games have this feet. But in my eyes it looks kind of blockey. Is it just me or should I change it?
-Im having really much trouble with highlighting, it looks too bright or too dark so i could use some tips
-the overall sprite, should there be some improvements?
oh I know he looks kind of fat, but my friend says that will be necessary if you want to dress it up.
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Posted By: Dra_chan
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:23am
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Since your sprites will have shoes, the feet are all right in my opinion. I think they need a neck, the head is too "into" the body. ------------- |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:54am
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Update:
i remade the neck, made 2 versions.
Personally i like the 1st one bette because the left arm of the 2nd one looks weird.
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Posted By: Leath
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 11:58pm
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I think it looks too much like a front view. Is it gonna be front view, or iso? =) The rest is pretty good to me, I guess |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 6:46am
@leath: its going to be an iso game
Update:
=> added some highlights and made clothing.
I noticed that many things change when you dress it up.
It doesnt look fat anymore and it looks more iso because his body doenst look like a square anymore.
I tried to make it more iso but my tries looked very bad. Any tips?
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 5:03pm
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I'd nix the black outlines. Make them a dark brown to match the body. ------------- |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 8:52pm
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Yes clothing changes things, the base is good. I would add a neck (at least 1pixel high) this will come in handy when you make things like capes and collars and other stuff. E: These are a good example of iso sprites (made by http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/4072.htm - bradido ) ../files/icons/full/all_sprites.gif">  Notice yours are not really isometric, but fauxmetric, lol ------------- |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 12:36am
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Damn this was hard.
Making my sprites more iso was a hell.
I first spend very much time on the feet, then after an hour of progress I thaught it looked better, then when I matched it with my older sprites there were only a few pixels of difference
 .Then I noticed that the legs werent the real problem but the arm.
Update:
 1. Made some dark brown outlines.(will work on it further if i get the shape right)
2. neck, it doesnt look very good because of the misplaced right arm.
3. Few tries for a more iso sprites. I could really use some tips here. And I really dont know wich one is best(I think the 1st and the 3th are a little better then the other 2)
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 9:55am
Update:
 I know it looks like i didnt work on it very much but that isnt. It took me forever to get the pose right.
I really dont know wich pose i should choose, i think one of the last three...
I really appreciate your oppinions
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 8:12am
Ok, it has been a LONG time since if worked on this, but i have been quite busy the past few weeks. I'v made some new clothes and while doing that i was getting doubts about some things.
-the feet, they looked fine at first but i got some doubts about them now. Anyone knows whats wrong with them or am i just getting crady
 .-the face, it looks alright but when i was looking some closer i kept getting the idea that there was something wrong with it, I just can't discover what...
Help is very appreciated
 (if you happen to notice something else, please tell me)
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 05 January 2007 at 3:08am
god, animating is hard, and it still doesnt look good so i thaught i could get some help here.
help is very appreciated
EDIT:
 some tries at the head, it doesnt look much better though |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 6:44am
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Update:
http://imageshack.us">
 Improved walking animation with help at pixelation
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 7:12am
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Looking good. The latest animation works well.
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 9:19am
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Update:
http://imageshack.us/">
old http://imageshack.us/">
 new It now has improved AA.
http://imageshack.us/">
 and here's a little idea that i'm not so shure about |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 7:06am
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EDIT:
 I think this is the final version of the animation, I now want to focus on the back sprite that still looks terrible:
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 9:18am
Improved back sprite
 CC is very appreciated
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Posted By: entivore
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:46pm
| Hmm, I don't think the leg border-line should go all the way to the bottom. . . the foot should blend into the leg more |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 11 January 2007 at 2:58am
Ah, good point, thanks.
 This will improve it
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 4:46am
It's been a while, I'm pretty busy but i managed to make 2 updates
 And these things keep bugging me:
 Should I change them, or should I leave them as they are right now?
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 5:44am
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Change them and see how they look. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 6:34am
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Originally posted by BlackDragon
Change them and see how they look. I want to, I tried many things(especially on the left arm) but it never looks good and thats why I came here to ask for help.
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 6:55am
looks better doesn't it?
now ill have to find a way to make the head into a head instead of a fuzzy hairball
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 7:17pm
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Looking good!
Show an ear maybe. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 10:37am
Tried to make a face (3rd sprite) but it doesnt look good, it's looking ridiculous actually.
The 2nd sprite is with a neck, I liked it at first but im getting doubts now...
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Posted By: Ensellitis
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 2:05pm
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if you must show a part of the face, show an ear. or http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=tourist+looking&btnG=Search - google for some photos of people looking at stuff, like tourist photos, and get an idea of what is visible at that angle... the 4th looks like the one you need ------------- There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 4:27pm
EDITNESS
 Try concentrating the hair and highlights into that swirlin' thing on yer head. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 20 January 2007 at 4:26am
Wow, thank for all your replies, it really helped.
 I think It's ready to animate
.I also did a minor update at the walking sprite:
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 20 January 2007 at 7:24am
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You are very welcome!
I'd love to see this finished ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 20 January 2007 at 12:58pm
 An early version of the walking-back sprite. It walkes kind a little staticly... And is it too fast?
EDIT:
 fixed a few bugs
EDIT2:
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 20 January 2007 at 5:28pm
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the biggest error i can see here that he's not lifting his legs. at all. he just shuffles his feet. make him pull his legs up as he walks for ++realism ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 2:19am
An edit with the help I got from pixalation.(the arms and legs were moving in the same direction at the same time)
I'll work on Snaders post now
 .EDIT:
 I think this improves the 'leg lifting'.
And I did a little edit on the right arm, I thought it didn't move like it should so I changed it.
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Posted By: entivore
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 1:36pm
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I did a quick edit. Posted at pixelation too, but I didn't want you to miss it so... I'll put it here as well
 (For some reason I'm getting an "access denied" when I click the insert image button)
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 7:35am
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Thanx for the edit entivore Feet: As far as I can see you edited 3 things that I don't really like, 1. you positioned the feet different, but now it looks like they are moving more horizontal instead of diagonal 2. you made the legs shorter, but they look too short now.. 3. something with the left leg, it's just like it's growing or something But your leg-edit wasn't for nothing, I edited some parts. You'll see the new sprite below. For the arms, I like what you did with them, although I'm not going to use it for the walking sprite I will use it if there will be a running sprite because they don't really bend that far when walking. But your edit somehow made me realise the arms need improvement. I also like changed we arm bending back like you did Here is the result: 
UPDATE:
an update based on entivores sprite:
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 9:14am
A new suit
(still very early in progress but I posted it anyway) |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 10:37am
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One of the odd things about the souldier is that his butt doesn't really move. I don't know about you, but when I walk my buttcheeks (for lack of a better word) move just as much as my legs do. Maybe more animation int hat area would make it look more realistic. ------------- |
Posted By: Ensellitis
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 11:30am
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Originally posted by Aleiav ... when I walk my buttcheeks (for lack of a better word) move just as much as my legs do... hoozah, i can vouch for that ------------- There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:54pm
| haha! I dont think those round things are his butt though, to me it looks like part of the top.. metal thing... yeaa. But you do have a point there, I was actually thinking that his thighs should move more, not just everything from the knees down, but wasn't sure enough to actually post it. |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 7:52am
 shake it
doesn't look that good eh.....
This looks better, but I'm not sure about this...
 oh, and it isn't his butt, just like at the new armour posted above it's another part of the armour, look at some pics of armour at google, you'll see what I mean. And this is a small version of the part of armour
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 4:38pm
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Originally posted by Ensellitis
hoozah, i can vouch for that LOL wtf? XD anyways.. I know it's part of the armor but... it would still move slightly. It still looks kind of static though. ------------- |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 9:18am
Is this any better? Now the piece of armour goes to both sides.
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 11:01pm
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It just seems like you've randomly made his buttcheeks move... I think you should think more about what's going on when you're walking. .. I'm not sure how to really explain it... maybe reread leel's post? ------------- |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 4:39am
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It has been a long time since I've updated this on pixeljoint but I finally did it.
At pixelation people made me realise this character wasn't good so I killed it and moved on to another character.
 And here is the new character:
 And before you say 'OMG THIS IS FREAKING UGLY
 ', this is a very basic sprite and I want to add more detail to it when the animation is finished.Well, critisize away (but only critisize the animation, so no comments like 'you should shade the pants some more' because I will do that when the animation is finished'
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Posted By: Omegavolt
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 5:44am
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No, actually, the animation is a lot smoother now. I think it looks good! :) ------------- http://www.ongamedev.com/ - OnGameDev |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 8:47am
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it looks better, but the shoes keep changing colours ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 11:15am
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@snader yeah I noticed. I'll fix that when the animation is finnished
Update:
 The legs aren't 'sliding' anymore now
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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 5:09pm
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Much smoother/better walking cycle. :) good work. ------------- |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 4:55am
Color:
 with or without golden gloves?
Yep I colored it.
Now, let the crits begin!
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Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 14 February 2007 at 10:07am
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defenitely with, it helps show the seperated body parts, all that blue can get confusing.
------------- http://sj-gfx.com"> 
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Posted By: Kool Koog
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 2:12pm
| A few comments. in the walking up right motion, his butt is big and shiny. one more thing, make that town boy a backwards walk, willya??? |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 3:22pm
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Kool koog, is this another attempt to get yourself some sprites?
Anyway, time for some updates:
The projectleader has stopped the project and doesn't reply to any mails anymore. I descided to continue working on this sprite so I have something nice for my portfolio. (if you want to know more you can read about it at pixelation)
Now the good news: the people at pixeljoint helped me improve this sprite, the only issue I have now is about the right leg and the colors..
 (got home early, thanks mrsprite for posting that)
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Posted By: MrWeirdGuy
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 6:25pm
| It looks like he's looking down. It's not that big of a deal, but it's just a little annoying. >_> |
Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 22 February 2007 at 7:02pm
I think the main problem was indeed the colors.
 In my edit I increased the contrast and made the ramps a lot more linear. Your hue and saturation values were all over the place, and I think it looks better with a more predictable trend. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com"> 
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 23 February 2007 at 2:45am
Changed the colors, it looks better, but I'm not sure about the lines though...but maybe they look good ingame, they are on a white bg now..
 Maby this is better? Milder inner-lines but the same outlines.
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Posted By: mar4000
Date Posted: 23 February 2007 at 6:41pm
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Add a bg and check if it still looks good. Fo some reson the character looks like its leaning forward. ------------- ----------- |
Posted By: Vertigo-Zero
Date Posted: 24 February 2007 at 11:17am
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Im still not happy with your walk animation and shading of the blue harness... anyway found a usefull link for you that can help with more than just those two points. http://www.pixel-arts.org/pixelation/index.php?topic=1343.0 |
Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 6:04am
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So, I took a break for a week or two but I'm back on this again
@Vertigo-Zero: Yeah, Adarias showed me some of those on pixelation. He's been a great help there. I took a look on his walking animation but whoa thats a lot of frames, It did help a little though;).
For the armour, there aren't many sprites with armour there.
But I descided to dich the blue armour guy, it didn't look good anyway. So I made a new character.
I kept it simple but I added a scarf so it still is recognisable.
  2 versions, I'm having doubts about the arm, should I use the dark outlines or the soft outlines?
edit:
maby I should bend the right arm some more
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Posted By: Omegavolt
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 5:36am
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Originally posted by dragonrc
2 versions, I'm having doubts about the arm, should I use the dark outlines or the soft outlines? Usually this question is answered by figuring out the color of your background. Soft outlines work on very low saturated colors (grey or near grey) and dark outlines work well on brighter, saturated colors. In this case, the arm always has the cape behind it, and its a bolder color than the grey surrounding it, so the dark outline looks better.
Great work on the walk anim, thats very nice!  ------------- http://www.ongamedev.com/ - OnGameDev |