Vertical SHMUP [2.0]
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Topic: Vertical SHMUP [2.0]
Posted By: Metaru
Subject: Vertical SHMUP [2.0]
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 3:29am
Buenas dias a todos (now this just a personal project)
My task is to create a set of ships for a Vertical SHMUP in wich the player's aircraft evolves/upgrades Ship desing stage  > > > > >Ship Color Stage  > > > >   > > > Ammo / Bullet desing  Upgrade Sequence Type B - Lvl1->Lvl2  [18Frames]Lvl2->Lvl3  [15 Frames] )...De antemano muchas gracias ~Metaru ------------- I ate leel's babies |
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Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 5:34am
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i really like the green ones, designwise, but the 2nd and 3rd stage of the r&b look a bit messy though on the other hand, the green doesnt look power-upped, but looks like a whole differenc ship. is the whole background gonna be black? cuz then you could cheat a bit by making some parts transparent, which could be used for shading allso, why 2 colours? 3 makes more sense, as that would be 2 bit (4 colours, of which one transparent) ------------- ▄▄█ ▄▄█ ▄█▄ ▄█▄ |
Posted By: PixelPuncher
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 7:52am
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I knew you would come up with good ones Metaru. Hope to see them coloured soon. ------------- Car Factory - Showcase Coming Soon! |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 9:22am
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Snader, those are just for references.
well, i'll explain a bit how each ship upgrades:
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Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 9:23am
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You do realize that it is extreamly uncommon to have odd sized sprites right?
Anyway the detail is pretty good. Why are you shading with white as your light color?
Overall I'm impressed. ------------- http://www.shmup-dev.com/forum/"> 
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 10:55am
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I like that coloring style for these ships. Red level 2 is weak tho.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 7:30pm
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thanks for your comments sires :D
>P_O: yeah... as i told to snader, those are just for reference. they haven't sent me the actual sprite size for the game i'm making this for.
>Jal: I know... what R2 does is just add a cannon to each side... any sugestion? ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: zeid
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 11:04pm
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i really like the green ones hehe trust snader to likes the green ones. I think they look fine although i dont like the blobby look the non-highlighted green wings give off. I also think that breaking the edges of lines would look fine, this means you can use the green, red and blues as AA in some cases (as it is a space game the black background is pretty much set). Edit showing what i mean:  The red one also seems a bit busy this could be a problem when it comes to readability. |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 25 April 2007 at 7:58am
These are all awesome metaru!! But I dont see much evolution in the green one...  maybe the last one should be a bit thinner... |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 25 April 2007 at 10:33am
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Originally posted by zeid i really like the green ones hehe trust snader to likes the green ones. I think they look fine although i dont like the blobby look the non-highlighted green wings give off. I also think that breaking the edges of lines would look fine, this means you can use the green, red and blues as AA in some cases (as it is a space game the black background is pretty much set). Edit showing what i mean: The red one also seems a bit busy this could be a problem when it comes to readability. here's an small update to R2 and R3 ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 25 April 2007 at 10:38am
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I like R3 before. Not awesome but good. R2 is just too square for me.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 25 April 2007 at 10:49am
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i just had to post the image because i had to leave... R3 and R2 are the same thing :P
i tried to integrate the cannons to the mian frame, the tail moved back 1px, the wigs made a small rotation clockwise to support the cannons, and i modifed the side twin cannons. Red's idea is to be an small fliying fortress, bully, but in first version it looked like if just added thing below it.
also, i forogot to post
hehe trust snader to likes the green ones. hahaha xD ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 26 April 2007 at 10:56am
Here's the reinvented R3 in two ways:
 larger, added 2 more cannons, and another set of thrusters. biggest R3 ever. da fliying washing machine.
Not that larger, same two cannons plus two rocket launcers, and a more compact and stabilized version. i like this second version more than the previus one. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 26 April 2007 at 4:24pm
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I prefer the second R3. It does better showing shadowed/lit faces instead of giving the appearance of red lines on a flat white shape. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com"> 
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 26 April 2007 at 6:53pm
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Well, looks like the desing of the first set is done. lets work on the second set now. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 30 April 2007 at 6:04pm
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here's the first attemp to colour Blue ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 30 April 2007 at 6:27pm
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Over all, I think fewer outlines and more contrast would make the sprite more readable. Currently the outlines use too much valuable space and don't communicate volume. They're great for 1-bit stuff (more if you count transparency/black), but you should shade to provide form more than rely on outlines when using more colors. Also, the upgraded areas strike me as looking out of place due to the different coloring. Is there some logic behind it? ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 30 April 2007 at 7:08pm
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I would also put more "u" in your version of "shmup"
That said, make your light source just above the ship in front. Make your highest parts lighter. MoD is right. With your current shading it would suggest that you have two light sources on the tips of each wing at the same depth of the body. Your shaded ships look really flat and gangly think about adding depth and if you're going to mirror, use a more central light source for depth. ------------- http://www.shmup-dev.com/forum/">
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 30 April 2007 at 7:28pm
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I too agree. The smaller the sprite the higher the contrast. On here the greys are too grey, add some blue or purple tone to the grey for a better looking pixel.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 12:51am
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thanks for your support sire, i though about removing the outlines too, but i wanted some opinions befonero doing anything. also, i'll try to keep the color theme for ships, so a little paint job is the next update. also, on a side note, the project this was for was cancelled, since the programer ran out of funds:'( but i'll keep working on this as a new idea of making my own version of some popular SHM'U'Ps(thanks for the correction P_O ;)) like Raiden, Ikaruga, Xevious, Slapfight, AeroWings, MUSHA, Einhander, Axelay... ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 11:00am
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HE VUELTO! here's an update of Blue. i've totally changed the palette from 7 to 11 colors, shifting from nooby gray to metal blue. i'm not sure of the accomplishement about shadowing of the ship, but i think it looks way more better than before.
again, coments about color choices and shadowing will be really appreciated.
Nos vemos! ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 12:42pm
| It looks bent in half. I think there are too many semi random specs in it. Think about what you are adding rather than filling empty space. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 2:24pm
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well, i just forgot to mention that is mirrowed. i'll clean the desing.  ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: alkaline
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 2:36pm
 color/various things changed. I edited the previous one by the way. |
Posted By: Pixel_Outlaw
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 2:38pm
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It's looking better. :)
You might consider looking at the DoDonPachi ship for some inspiration. Develope the rear a bit more I'm not usre what the rounded growths are. Try looking at some raiden I or II sprites for some idears. Really the odd numbered with is driving me nuts....
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 4:02pm
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P_O: actually, they are not "exactly" sprites, i'm not plaining to use them on anything to the date. they're jus for graphical purposes. it's just my first "real" pixel project.. like a portfolio or something, wich involves working on the Ships, the backgrounds, title, items, UI, etc.
Alkaline: thanks for the edit... since i'm not changing the desing of the ships, i migth consider using your idea. on the palette, i'll use yours.
se agradece  ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:19am
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Level 1 type B by alkaline has great colors
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 11:12am
yep, i'll colour the ships in that way .------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 2:49pm
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Its been a long time... This was one of my first Projects, and I've decided that i have the skills to finish this. so this week i'll focus mainly on this. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Squirrelsquid
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 3:53pm
Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 6:23pm
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One issue you might have once you start using the cockpit colors more is that they blend with the blues, as both have low saturation. Saturating the oranges will fix it. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 22 November 2007 at 5:04am
wjile on that, i'm testing these palettes in order to fix them to each ship's color theme ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 22 November 2007 at 8:05am
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I like the way the type 6 and type B ships look. Good luck with them.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 8:29am
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First attemp to color Type G and R ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: surt
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 1:07pm
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Looking good. Red looks a little oversaturated in the mid range for my eyes. The Type G evolution doesn't really match the others. Level 1 looks much more bulky than its peers. The transition between levels doesn't look so natural (particularly 2 to 3) as each looks quite distinct, whereas R and B are noticeably built-upon. With Type B the changes between levels are perhaps too subtle. R looks to have it about perfect to my eyes. Each level is visually similar, but of considerably different bulk. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 9:40pm
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I need to give a little explanation of how these ships actually are supposed to work in this 'game'. in the begining(mean, the initial plans I had for these ships), each ship has unique atributes(a cliche, I know). Type G is speed based, Type R is power based, and Type B was an average between these two. they were supposed to evolve after a grabbing a specific power up item. While types R and B were suposed to be mechanical aircraft that recieved extra equipment attached to their frames that amplified their attributes, Type G is some sort of Biomechanical weapon that mutates after (*) process. Now, this process of upgrading will be perfomed at the end of an stage in some kind of base/carrier -that i haven't desingned yet- permanently , so each sip will have a diferent role in a major plot that I want to introduce during the game(yes, a shmup with a plot :3) at first I said that i won't modify their desings, but now its evident that i have to unify the desing of the ships in order to make them fit in the same style/scheme. (or else they would look like one of these crappy flash games made of rips from diferent games) ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 25 November 2007 at 9:11am
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Now i've picked another set of colors for these ships, plus i made some changes to the palettes. i've added another gray in order to add some metal specs to their frames and weapons a la Dodonpachi plus other minus changes to Type R and G's desings. i believe that R now looks less gay, and G looks more agresive(but I still need to give it a more organical look)  ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 25 November 2007 at 2:38pm
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Originally posted by Metaru Way better now.. 2 small things: this should be set 1.7! Type be ship lvl 2 and 3 are too similar... ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 9:51am
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well, the changes in Type B aren't that drastic as the rest of the other 2 ships... is that a problem?
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Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 9:57am
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Originally posted by Metaru well, the changes in Type B aren't that drastic as the rest of the other 2 ships... is that a problem? from lvl 1 to 2, the change is small, but very visible.. If you made the change from 2 to 3 more visible too, it would be exelent :) ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 11:27am
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maybe this is too drastic. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 11:30am
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Originally posted by Metaru maybe this is too drastic. I think its Perfect! Now continue and color those other 4 ships! ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 11:47am
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moved the tail section a bit up so it wouldn't look as it were hanging from the plane ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 1:37pm
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>(")< was here :D
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Posted By: Demon
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 2:47pm
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mhmmm sure was
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 3:16pm
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Back on topic now...
I like the new ships a lot better than the old, but maybe more contrast? ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 7:33am
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G2 first attemp. trying to stablish this 'evolution' concept for typeG oh man, G3 will be a very beatifull ship... ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Wyverii
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 7:42am
| Lovely designs. Try it out with a bit more contrast since even though it has some vibrant colors it still feels slightly dark to me. Can't actually see much wrong with it at all so i'll sit back and watch the other three ships be completed. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 11:20am
c'mon, don't be afraid to attack these ships. surely they know how to answer the fire :D(thanks Wyverii) G3 first version, thicker. G3 second version, thinner. wich version do you like the most? ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 6:10pm
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Tadaa~♪
R2 and R3
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 7:45am
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now working on the bullets of each ship ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Squirrelsquid
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 8:42am
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 9:31am
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Originally posted by Squirrelsquid these look realy nice. My only complaint would be, that the Lv 2 and 3 of the green ship actualy get smaller... but then again, my favorite ship IS Green, level 3 You can gain much speed if you can put the same equippement in less space (however this offcourse does not matter in space.. a cube is just as aireodinamic as a rocket in space :p) ohh this sooo makes me want to pickup my GM skills and program a nice game! but there are no enemys ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 7:39pm
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Originally posted by Squirrelsquid these look realy nice. My only complaint would be, that the Lv 2 and 3 of the green ship actualy get smaller... but then again, my favorite ship IS Green, level 3 Well, Type G is supposed to be a fast ship, rather than a powerful one. that's why it gets sharper on each level. Originally posted by Lollige You can gain much speed if you can put the same equippement in less space (however this offcourse does not matter in space.. a cube is just as aireodinamic as a rocket in space :p) ohh this sooo makes me want to pickup my GM skills and program a nice game! but there are no enemys not yet :D ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 23 August 2008 at 3:45am
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After a huge hiatus, I'll brig this back to life again with some more progress, this time in the form of the Type B ship Upgrade sequence(refer to the 1st post for futher explanations). From L1->L2 (18frames)L2->L3 (15Frames)and the whole sequence  ------------- I ate leel's babies |