Emo-Bot
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Category: Pixel Art
Forum Name: WIP (Work In Progress)
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Printed Date: 30 September 2025 at 2:24am
Topic: Emo-Bot
Posted By: Dutrho
Subject: Emo-Bot
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 8:52am
 I know there's still much work to be done on this piece, just wanted to get some impressions. undecided if i'm gonna add a background. any thoughts? ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
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Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 8:57am
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try to add a colored light source like orange or light blue. Metal isnt grey it reflects all light rays.
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Posted By: raelz
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 9:16am
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but emos do not see those beatiful colours, the world is so gray and unhappy.. ;-)
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Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 9:59am
| add a second lightsource |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 10:22pm
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anyone mind pointing me towards a good second light source pic. just so I can use as a reference. I've looked around, coudn't find a good one. also, not all metals are ultra shinny, I wanted this to look worn & a bit weather beaten. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Hatch
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:09am
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I like this a lot, but the line tool legs are kind of bugging me. It looks like they're made of the same flexible stuff http://www.insttech.washington.edu/courses/tcss305/05au/homework/3/required_files/bender.gif - Bender's limbs are made of, so the ruler-straightness strikes me as odd.
EDIT: Also, the right (our right) arm is out of perspective. ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:26am
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after all, he's an emo bot.
I think you could find a good reference on this http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/tutorials/light01.htm - light tutorial . on page 3 it speaks about mixed ligthing. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:44am
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Ha ha Metaru, When you was posting this I was searching for second light source references on google as well. The one you found was extremely interesting to me as well. All different lightsources are explained and shown. Beautiful source indeed. I have found more. Great piece of lighting and shadow writing. With pictures to prove it. OK it is about photos but we can learn from it as well :) http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/tutorials/light01.htm - http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/tutorials/light01.htm Not much of a show but interesting read: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy05/phy05122.htm - http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy05/phy05122.htm Flash lightning: http://www.dembflashproducts.com/flipit/portrait/ - http://www.dembflashproducts.com/flipit/portrait/ Watch what happens when the light comes from above and an extra flash is used to highlight the eyes. Look what happens to the spheres when secondary lightsource is brought in: http://www.thp.uni-duisburg.de/%7Ekai/index_4.html - http://www.thp.uni-duisburg.de/~kai/index_4.html Another photographic lightsource demonstration: http://ttp://www.photoflexlightingschool.com/Equipment_Lessons/StarFlash/Portraits_with_a_StarFlash_OctoDome_Strobe_Kit/index.html - http://ttp://www.photoflexlightingschool.com/Equipment_Lessons/StarFlash/Portraits_with_a_StarFlash_OctoDome_Strobe_Kit/index.html So this should get you going for a while  Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:50am
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a wise artist once said theres no better art teacher than nature. look around you and u will see many examples of lighting, light sources shadows etc.
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Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 9:05am
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Thanks for all the light tuts. very interesting read, not done reading them yet, its making me remember all the stuff I forgot while smoking pot in art class in high school. LOL I'm just experimenting with the light stuff  The legs have been bothering me as well, but they weren't made using the line tool, altough that would have gone a bit quicker, i'll probably add a curve to them like someone sitting on the ground with his legs(feet) closer to him. I'll fix the arm as well, altough in the lineart stage they looked perfectly aligned, but when I coloured it, it then seemed out of place, odd. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 07 September 2007 at 12:07am
| The feet seem off perspective. The different color light source looks good but you should try to blend it in with the grey with a more saturated form of blue. |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 09 September 2007 at 9:31am
 Worked on the legs quite a bit, tried a golden yellow second light source(still experimenting) haven't touched the "left" arm placement yet. eorked on some inner highlights just for fun. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 09 September 2007 at 8:40pm
| hehe, nice work thus far, you need to blend it a bit better and only use the lightest oranges for the edges. |
Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 09 September 2007 at 10:01pm
You really don't have to go so over board with the second lightsource... ------------- 
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Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 12 September 2007 at 8:31am
 thanks for the tips, hope I didnt go too far with the 2nd LS, I want it to come from the bottom right. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 12 September 2007 at 11:27pm
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I'd spend more time looking at Souly's edit. The shading behind the robot's shoulder and on the sleeve seems really strong.
But you've DEFINITELY come far in this piece and it's looking good. I personally think you should change it back to blue. It gave it a more of a melancholy quality. |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 13 September 2007 at 6:05am
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I dunno guys i think his first secondary lightsource update was the best. It needs to fade gradually around the robot, or it will look flat. Dutrho, don't forget to AA! I personally feel you should redo the hands, or at least the fingers. The wrists are also terribly thin, i'd make it as wide as his neck or legs. Good luck. -------------  http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 13 September 2007 at 9:19am
  In keeping with my strict "one thing at a time" rule here's 2 version of the same thing. I will not forget the aa, nor his left arm placement or the hands/wrists. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 13 September 2007 at 10:05am
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Alright no problem. You need to darken and lower the saturation of the darkest blue. Use the greys nearest to it to blend it with the darkest gray, too (i see you've already done it, but i think you could use one more gray). Also, you're shading the blues like so: OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO When you should be shading it like sooo: OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO OOOOO I hope that makes sense.. it's quite a big problem. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 14 September 2007 at 9:18am
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I hope so too :) here's a quick try  ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 17 September 2007 at 8:51am
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Alright so I moved his left arm 2px up,2px right and worked on his wrist. tried some aa, but looked horrible, truly horrible. lil help!  ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Lawrence
Date Posted: 17 September 2007 at 10:43pm
Here's an edit to show you roughly how I would render this: (I ran out of time and didn't get to do the legs fully) In yours, the colours for the arms and legs are extremely similar to the body's colours, so I decided to take them and add them to the body's colour ramp. On the top of the head and top of the body you've altered the shading on the left. If they're flat, then there should be only one colour (for the diffuse reflection) except if you are adding specular reflections (as I have) and a few other circumstances. Basically the same goes for the inside of the door thing, and the blue highlights; keep the shading in line with the shape of the object, not 'splatted' on. I've added a few other things which might interest you. Take the outline removal with a pinch of salt though. |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 9:06am
 tried some aa and edited the 2nd light-source(again). I like your edit but thats definitely not my style. although I like the nics and scratches, I think I'll try that. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 10:14am
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Added some scratches, worked a bit more on the aa. Unless I missed something I think i'm ready to submit it.  ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 10:29am
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Does the indise dither need to be a 50/50 ? ok at 1x, but its such a 'zoomable' pixel and when zoomed the 50/50 looks cheap. ------------- |
Posted By: Squirrelsquid
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 11:19am
| I agree with Jalonso, instead of the dither you should put some gears or wires in there. You could even go as far and put a lightsource inside of him, throwing light onto the hatch. |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 8:58am
Ok so I messed around with the insides a bit, added some sort of malfunctioning heart valve. Still some room on the left But I don't know what to put there if anything, tried wires but it looked crappy. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 10:40am
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put a piston. you have some frames to animate it. also, he's an emo-bot, how about making him with a disconected heart(I know, its a cliché, but Emos are just a big cliché) ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 10:51am
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Try gears, like a watch would have?
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Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 8:49am
 Now with a malfunctioning heart, gears and a pump. ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 9:01am
| wow i see a lot of progress in this piece well done so far man, it might just be me but the arms and legs of the robot kind of look "rope"-ish |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 9:09am
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Wow that really works : / I would color gears using the arms/leg colors. While there maybe the heart can be placed in perspective instead of the 2D flat? ------------- |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 9:42am
 done, as for the heart, i'm not sure, I kinda like the way it is, even though its out of perspective ------------- Mmmm.. Thats good placebo! |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 10:13am
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Fair enough : )
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 12:02pm
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Put a puff of smoke or a spark in his gears, or a crack in that emo heart of his. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 11:26pm
| Make a tear fall from his face! Give him self inflicted wounds. XD |
Posted By: Dutrho
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 7:20am
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sorry guys, this has been submitted already
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Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 2:12pm
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You can update it ;-)
Go to your gallery, click on "edit details", update. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |