ah, I am crappy!
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Topic: ah, I am crappy!
Posted By: zaneeba
Subject: ah, I am crappy!
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 5:17pm
Ah! I suck so bad!
I am making a game that is a Top-down RPG. This is a standing face-view sprite of the King.
His face, I really like. It is nice and detailed. However, the clothing, especially the robe, cuts away the aspect of his personality, which is grand!
Are there any helpful tricks that I'm missing that will add more detail and less ugly shadow to him? please help, because I apparently am missing something.
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Posted By: Infamy
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 5:57pm
I really like this guy, theres alot of detail in the head, it certainly pops out to the forefront. The only real advice i can render is probably in reference to proportion
Disclaimer: I dont claim to be any kind of authority on the subject of pixel art, and you should take my advice as a grain of salt
Heres a quick cut and paste jobby to show you what I mean.

I just moved it around to suit the shape of his head more, and gave him so more girth to appear larger. Though, this may be contrary to the size your going for, i think it suits the size of his head nicely.
hope this helps XD
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Posted By: zaneeba
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 6:07pm
I like his proportions, actually. He looks just like that in my concept art. however, unlike my concept art, he is very flat and pixelated! his clothing has no "wow" factor and the shadowing is all crappy!
Here is my concept art (sorry for how big it is )
I want my sprite to look like this. His robe should be all spotty and weird like this picture here. and his shoes need to look... well... like shoes. not weird rocks under his robe.
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Posted By: Infamy
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 6:17pm
hrmm i see where your going,
imo I still think by modifiing the proportions a bit he'll appear less flat. For instance, in your concept art, his arms come just short of his belt. And in the pixelled version the arms tends to lead the eye down and inward, giving him a shallower/elongated appearence.
Id bring the arms up a bit i think.
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Posted By: zaneeba
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 6:21pm
those are his wizard sleeves!... but I guess you're right. wizard sleeves or no, it DOES give him a weird elongated appearance. I will fix him immediately.
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 06 April 2009 at 9:08pm
I say your problem is in the coloring and keeping all the lineart intact. If you'd like I'll make a tiny edit for you to maybe help.
What do you mean top-down? Your sprite is head-on? Is this the perspective you are talking about? ../files/icons/full/rpg1998_001.png">
This is what I see in your art which is not top-down but head-on

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Posted By: God_Is_Evil
Date Posted: 07 April 2009 at 3:10pm
He means the sprites in his game are like this view.
This is a top down dude i drew for some kids game.

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Posted By: zaneeba
Date Posted: 07 April 2009 at 8:44pm
What I meant is RPG style. Kindof like Zelda or Final Fantasy. This is still not rpg, but it suffices enough that nobody will notice it in-game I dont think.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 07 April 2009 at 10:37pm
thats more like a top-frontal angle
 do the onvius comparision between what you have and what are you pretending to do. its qute hard to notice where is the problem.
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Posted By: Infamy
Date Posted: 07 April 2009 at 11:01pm
Top frontal is a good description. I think its 3, 1/4 overhead, but each game uses a different mixture of the 3 point perspective. Theres a good deal of foreshortening.
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Posted By: zaneeba
Date Posted: 08 April 2009 at 5:38pm
Yeah, like ALttP. I know that ALttP isnt the best type of sprite to strive fore (since their angles are so ridiculous) but it still looks pretty cool.
Oh, and I fixed the sprite to look more awesome-esque! I just looked through some of the pixel galleries and realized that people used a checker-board technique to blend the shadows. So thats what I did to, and it looks so much better!
look between the two and it is a WORLD of difference!
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Posted By: zaneeba
Date Posted: 09 April 2009 at 10:26pm
I have decided to make the sprite a lot smaller, due to it being rather impossible to animate a BIG sprite on a large scale.
But what worked on the big sprite seems to not work on the little sprite. I should have known that, but I didnt. The cross-hatching is far more noticable, so he looks like he's wearing sequins!
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Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 10 April 2009 at 12:58am
That checkerboard blending is called dithering. Make sure not do overdo it, though you haven't so far :)
In your concept art, his neck can be seen and he's got his chin raised all haughtily, as it is he looks like a hunchback :P
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Posted By: Marshall
Date Posted: 13 April 2009 at 6:29pm
I'd say increase the contrast in his robe where his stomach is so it looks like it juts out a bit more (if that's the look you're going for).
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