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eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 12/10/2022 06:26

Seems she's stopped using the "Adarias" name, and I guess she chose to delete the account rather than keep using an account with the wrong name.

She still posts actively on Twitter and Mastodon.

bluexel (Level 3 Mi-Go (The Whisperer in Darkness)) @ 12/10/2022 04:18

what was happenning on Adarias account? I can't check the gallery.


Theoden (Level 10 Operative) @ 12/9/2022 01:04

@gawrone, @CELS

Thanks, I will look into your recommendations.

CELS (Level 7 Lotus) @ 12/8/2022 18:06

@SDB: Didn't know about that novel, Sacred and Terrible Air. Cool! And I feel the same way with reading, pixelling, drawing or writing. It's not nearly as enjoyable for short bursts as taking the time to finish a chapter or have a proper session.

@Theoden: I don't think there's anyone like Tolkien, unfortunately. But I'll have to echo gawrone and recommend Ursula Le Guin. And then reading Tao Te Ching and/or her essay, The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction, which gives a better understanding of her unique approach to storytelling, and the lessons to be drawn from her books. For me, I think Arthur Conan Doyle's White Company has some of the things I like about Tolkien. Vivid storytelling, beautiful writing and that old British tone that is so hard to replicate. No orcs, but a nice adventure nonetheless.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 12/8/2022 12:59

So, the best example of super enormous world where action takes place on different continents trough thousands of years, with looooots of characters, races, gods, epic battles, and everything soo vast and overwhelming would be Steven Erikson Malazan Book of the Fallen. 

The difference is that the style is more modern, more gritty less poetic and definitely not high in tone and not optimistic and without easy dividing between good and evil. Will not make you feel good and peaceful.

And for the "poetic" language and that feel of word magic and everything else you like, I would say Ursula K. Le Guinn. This will not be as epic but will definitely make you love the pages and feel good. 

Theoden (Level 10 Operative) @ 12/8/2022 05:58


In my view Tolkien is simply unmatched but I could never got into any other fantasy series as big as Tolkien's works (Lord of The Rings, Silmarillion etc) so I am surely biased. I tried but none of them stuck with me. 

I really like the way Tolkien tells a story. I love his world creation with interesting interactions between characters and events spanning a long period of time and ages (Silmarillion is a very good example for this). His way of writing is simply beautiful and manages to teleport me to the place he is describing. I can clearly see his admiration for good and beautiful things and he always manages to present them in his works. To me his words are like poem. I sometimes pick up LOTR or Hobbit and start reading a random chapter and that just makes me fell good and peaceful somehow.

These might sound very generic and broad but I have no other means of explaining it :)

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 12/8/2022 04:07

@Theoden, I'm a cringe fantasy fan so I can talk about fantasy books for days. I could recommend you some, but I first would have to know what about Tolkien you enjoyed the most, becasue people like his books for different things. I was a Tolkien fan, but now I'm an admirer of his lifework (which is amazing and impossible to replicate), becasue I found what I mostly enjoy in fantasy (deep, multidimentional, rich and believable characterisation, and of course high quality prose), and Tolkien has the latter but not the first.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 12/8/2022 03:53


Yes FNV is a great game. Best of "modern" Fallouts. Original F1&2 soudtrack by Mark Morgan gets heavy rotation in my playlist. I agree with everything you said, about FNV and about Bethesda. Morrowind is still one of my favorite games and I can ignore the terrible chosen one saving the world trope, becasue of the side quests, freedom and world design.

Theoden (Level 10 Operative) @ 12/8/2022 03:21

I love Dwarf Fortress. It is definitely not for everyone but I like diving into games with deep mechanics and high immersion. It is ideal for people who value a deeper content and complexity over fast consumed casual gaming experiences. 

I have been playing it on and off for 10+ years. I usually start a new fortress and give it a go after every major update. Some updates carry the game forward in many ways. For example, the trees were simple one tile sprites back when I first started playing and now after a major update the trees have trunks, roots, branches and leaves which are all procedurally generated. The leaves change colors and fall according to the season etc. The complexity just keeps increasing and I just love seeing a digitally simulated fantasy world being created when you start a new world. And as a software developer I enjoy seeing this crazy piece of software being developed by two borthers over 30 years :) I appreciate their work on both artistic and technical viewpoints.

It might get a bit repetitive after building several fortresses but in the end it somehow manages to pull me in for another go after a year of not touching the game.

The STEAM version looks and works great, well for Dwarf Fortress standards at least :) I think it is anyone's best bet to try and get into the game. You should expect your first couple of fortresses to fail quickly due to several planning issues, disasters or sieges. Just consider these early expeditions as a learning experience and a tutorial. The game is insanely deep and learning everything is not necessary for a fun playthrough (I definitely don't know everything about it). But the basics are in fact quite simple once you play a couple of times. Like the developer Tarn Adams says: Losing is fun :)

I agree about the fact that internet and online gaming have destroyed what was left of my will to read. I seem to have great difficulty at picking up and reading any book now. It has to be an amazingly interesting super cool book to even get me started and it is not guaranteed that I will finish it even then.

I love Tolkien and read all of his books, I enjoyed reading Lovecraft and several scientific books on physics etc. but now I can't seem to get into any book. I tried Wheel Of Time and couldn't get into it. I plan to read the Dune series too but I know I will postpone that as well :)

Do you guys have any recommendations for a Tolkien fan?

SeDiceBisonte (Level 8 Spaceman) @ 12/7/2022 15:00

@CELS: I got Roadwarden but haven't had a chance to start. I think it'll be a good one for after Christmas when I have a bit more time. I started Disco Elysium and was really enjoying it, but just stopped at some point and really need to get back into it. The writing was superb and I'm hoping the developer's novel, Sacred and Terrible Air (set in the same world as the game), gets an English translation at some point.

I've also been reading less than I used to, but I think a lot of that is down to starting pixel art. One of my hobbies had to lose out and, sadly, it seems to have been literature. I am making a conscious effort to read more, but it's tough since I need a good chunk of time to settle into something. I'm not one of those people who can read a page here and there. I always have to finish a chapter before i can stop.

Speaking of time-consuming games, the official graphical version of Dwarf Fortress was released on Steam yesterday. I always bounced off the ASCII version, but maybe the inclusion of tutorials and a proper UI will draw me in...

Edit for gawrone's reply:

@gawrone: What did you think of Fallout: New Vegas? That's the only 3D Fallout that I liked, and have played through several times. I know some of the team from the first two games worked on it, and I think it really shows. Bethesda always seem to introduce very artificial drama, with the whole world hanging in the balance. I liked that New Vegas was based on the strategic objectives of different factions, with the main thing haging in the balance being control of a dam. It felt so much more alive to me because of the realistic stakes, and it had a much better sense of melancholy to it rather than the nuclear fetishism of Fallouts 3 and 4.

I did try to replay the first Fallout in 2020, but it's quite difficult when you already know where the water chip is. You can only really follow the mystery once, although the atmosphere is still superb (I love the Aphex Twin-influenced soundtrack).

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 12/7/2022 14:59

I couldn't agree more. I spent hundreds of my teenage hours in Fallout 1 and 2, and then my heart broke while waiting for a proper 3 (called van buren later). Disco Elysium was probably the first game, not only being able to bring similar feelings and experiences, but also even add some plus values in like in gameplay, aesthetics, writing and many other things.

I haven't finished the game yet. I left it somewhere near the end and got paralysed. The game was so good for me that I didn't wanted it to end, and I find it as a fine wine. I really want to enjoy it when I have time to fully dive into it, not in a casual - some free time here and there - way. So it stays on a shelf unfinished. Waiting for a right time. 

CELS (Level 7 Lotus) @ 12/7/2022 13:21

Glad to hear it! I won't have time to play it for a while (or time for pixelling, sadly) but it's definitely on my wishlist.

I've been thinking a lot about how I'm reading fewer novels than I used to and how I enjoy old school games less than I used to. Even new games like Disco Elysium are hard to get into. And I think it's just that too much modern internet and modern gaming has ruined my concentration + immersion, to the point where I can't enjoy games like Fallout 2 anymore. Roadwarden seems like a possible rehabilitation game for that. And then maybe I can try Disco Elysium again. When I have time to play games again.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 12/7/2022 00:43
This is a reaction to what greenraven *was doing continuously, for a long time*, not to what he *might have been doing continously, for a long time*. I hope this anwser can clear the misunderstanding, and if not, please don't continue it here. 
Hapiel strongly suggested to continue this topic in DMs.

Zizka (Level 10 Deep Blue) @ 12/6/2022 07:01

Seems kind of weird not to allow greenraven because there's a chance he might be "acting out". Sorry, it doesn't seem fair in my opinion to reject someone based on what he *might do* as opposed to what he *did*. He sounds a lot more mature and stable than he used to and if I were him, it'd be honestly be really hurt by that. I might've misunderstood what happened however. I'm not trying to carry on the drama here but just doesn't seem right to me and I'd be remiss to just idly stand by without saying a thing.

Good news about Reddit. I kind of feel like Sedge's heart hasn't been in Pixeljoint for a long, long time now. Is there no way to "transfer" the website to someone else?

Mathias (Level 6 Garbage) @ 12/3/2022 17:21

Greenraven is just the weird kid in the back of the class that keeps things colorful. Embrace disorder. Don't take it serious.

Talking werewolf movies? Was never into freaky gore type stuff, but one time as a kid I randomly caught one of The Howling movies on tv for the first . . . and last time. Scariest and most disturbing scene I had witnessed to that point - someone involuntarily transforming into a werewolf. Yyyyeah I was done.

mathias movie recc: Donnie Darko (2001)

Carnivac (Level 8 Behemoth) @ 12/1/2022 04:56

Most people who love 'An American Werewolf In London' tend to hate 'An American Werewolf in Paris'.  Largely for having none of the original film's cast or crew, unlikable main characters and bad CGI werewolves that have aged poorly (whereas the practical effects of the original still hold up very well 40 years on).  The original is one of my favourite movies and has a charm that most horror movies (even comedy horror) totally lack for me.

Gecimen (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 12/1/2022 04:47

It seems the forum is safe from harm now, you can use it safely again. Therefore we're shelving the reddit idea.

Irenaart (Level 9 Dagon (Dagon, also Philistine mythology)) @ 12/1/2022 02:08

@everyone; If you still haven't signed up and want to join this year's Secret Santa 2022, you still have until December 2nd to do so. Just write under the Secret Santa post "I'm in", and you'll be part of this annual event.

Mathias (Level 6 Garbage) @ 11/30/2022 04:40

There's no story without conflict.


gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/30/2022 03:07

@CELS, Roadwarden is fantastic. I haven't got much time to play, but what I had it was enough to make it difficult to leave the game... for a while.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/29/2022 09:36
Alright, that was enough for now. 
This conversation can go on in private if you so please, but the chatterbox is hereby closed for the conversation about whether Greenraven is being treated fairly by PJ.
We'll gladly be open and transparent about how we deal with issues like these, but only to the extend where it does not become a nuisance for the community. Had this been a forum thread it would have long been locked for spiralling out of control.
Once again, for complaints about how we deal with any of this, feel free to privately message me or another mod.
Thank you for understanding, and happy chatting about all the fun things!

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/29/2022 08:25


Ok there is obviously some kind of weird cultural barrier here because "position of power" meant moderator or adminastrator, you are not in a position of power because of me because I did not appoint you to become a moderator or admin.

I can't address any other points if we can't communicate clearly.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/29/2022 08:00

@eishiya I have to agree with you. You are right that the goal on the horizon, hat can give more meaning to all the small things on the way doesn't have to be apocalyptical. It just have to be long term. I guess I was stuck with high fantasy RPG.

I just recalled I was fascinated with Unpacking. It's a great, and relatively short pixel art game, anyone who doesn't know it, do yourself a favour and check it out. All the small tasks of unpacking boxes would be boring after few "levels", but there is a long term goal of getting to know the character and slowly unraveling her story told by her belongings. Nothing apocaliptical, yet it can keep you picking up things from boxes for hours. Something which would be called a worst type of quest in many other games.


SeDiceBisonte (Level 8 Spaceman) @ 11/29/2022 07:41

@eishiya: You know, I saw Dog Soldiers so long ago that I forgot I even had. I'll add most of what you mentioned to my watchlist. I'm not averse to low-budget silliness but 'literal shit' has not sold A Werewolf in England to me. I wonder how many people got their countries mixed up and watched that instead of An American Werewolf...

@CELS: I noticed it's also on GOG, who I assumed might give a bigger cut to the publisher but it seems it's 70% for both stores. Hooray, guilt!

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/29/2022 07:22

Sentence "everything I say is going to be misconstrued" is another form of manipulation attempt. This is a fallacy of extrapolation. For example, when you said you broke no rules I agreed with you becasue I found it to be true. I only point when you try to twist facts and since you do that a lot, that's why you have a false impression of me doing nothing else, but pointing that out.

Second thing is that I'm in position of power, becasue of you. You can have a serious conversation when you will have serious arguments. When you try to "trick" the adversary, by purposefully ignoring what was stated or twisting the facts, or trying to discredit others by lies or misinformation, you sometimes will encounter someone who will notice all that and confront you with your ways of arguing. And then you automatically give power to them.

Assuming that I'm using a google translator to talk to you is an attempt to discredit me of even lower standard, than what you presented so far.

If you really was interested in joining the discord community, why don't you try to earn it instead of this pointless fight that doesn't help you at all? I'm willing to accept your argument that you are not interested in creating pixel art or talking about it, but you want to talk with your friends about other stuff. So why do you want to join the PJ discord again? If you want to have a bigger platform for "PJ bad without Jal" we are not interested in that. If you want to talk with people about pixel unrelated stuff you can do that on the whole other part of the universe.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/29/2022 06:39

Nope, everything was scrubbed clean. The context is that I helped in building this site. The fact that I just changed my avatar to a piece that no longer exists should be proof of that.

Not everyone here is solely just to draw. At least not in the early days.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/29/2022 06:38

Ok I'm sorry but can't have a serious conversation with someone in a position of power if google translate is playing mediator cuz liek totes fo sho everything I say is going to be misconstrued by a soulless algorithm. "Manipulations" is being applied wholly incorrectly in this instance.

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/29/2022 05:44

@gawrone Do they though? I feel like many (though of course not all) players could take or leave the grand stakes and focus instead on the smaller-scale interactions and gameplay, and that's what keeps them invested. I think writers usually go with high stakes because they require the least work to make the players understand, but low stakes or even no stakes can be just as engaging. The iyashikei genre is built around having low/no stakes, and has been quite successful.

Gamers need short-term and long-term goals to stay engaged, but those long-term goals don't have to be tied to grand stakes.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/29/2022 02:23

@CELS, I agree with you, even if this already became an almost unnoticeable standard. But also, gamers usually need some sort of high stake grand goal on the horizon to want to be invested, and to stay invested. I will soon check how this problem was solved in Roadwarden, but I predict I will be blown away.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/28/2022 23:18

Your manipulations are getting silly.

Elitism would be if we said you are not worthy of joining PJ discord becasue you are not enough rich or your feet are too small.

We say you are welcome as everyone else, as long as your activity is not 99% shit talking about current PJ.

This is a very easy concept but I can use a metaphor also:

If a bride don't invite her ex husband to a wedding, becasue so far he was nothing but drama queen willing to destroy the party, it's not elitism. If she doesn't invite him becasue his height is below 180cm and his net worth is too small it would be elitism.

CELS (Level 7 Lotus) @ 11/28/2022 17:27

@gawrone: Glad to hear it! Frankly, I think it's weird that more RPG games don't use this concept. Being the warden of a small area makes more sense when doing all sorts of quests and mini-games, instead of the typical "Imma save the world and rescue my daughter, but first I'll train a unicorn, learn to fish and decorate my mansion" game idea.

@SeDiceBisonte: Yeah, go get that sale! Unless the developer earns less money during a Steam sale. In which case: how dare you. 

@specialmin64: 1v1 me in Lost Dutchman Mine (1989), bro.    

StevenM (Level 7 SNES) @ 11/28/2022 15:48

@greenraven do you have a backup or alternate online gallery for your work? I don't have any context for your profile outside of you being a sealion

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/28/2022 14:42

@SeDiceBisonte: Ginger Snaps is good, but I prefer its sequel, don't skip that one.
I've had trouble finding werewolf movies I like (I want them as research for a game I'd like to make), the Company of Wolves was the first in a long time to not disappoint :D

  • The old favourite it ousted was Bad Moon. It's nothing special plot-wise or visually, but it hit the spot for me.
  • Dog Soldiers is good, though not what I was looking for.
  • If you enjoyed An American Werewolf in London, then its sequel in Paris will probably also be of interest, though I didn't like either film.
  • The Howling films are pretty fun if you like low-budget silliness.

Those are really all the recommendations I can make, everything else I've seen has been "meh" at best ): The Underworld films and Van Helsing are fun films that include werewolves, but they're not werewolf films. If you like "so bad it's good" and don't mind literal shit, A Werewolf in England could be worth a watch. Wolf (1994, with Jack Nicholson) is one I've seen recommended, but I haven't seen it myself.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/28/2022 14:32

You are aware that you're just creating a contrarian paradox right? Locking people out and gatekeeping isn't going to help the elitism problem.

Also I don't really pixel anymore. I'm mostly here to socialize with people I know in the IRC group and the Skype group, and with those dead I thought I'd move onto Discord which is the current cool thing.

This didn't have to be this complicated. All I said was "hello".

specialmin64 (Level 4 Rubbish) @ 11/28/2022 14:24

@SeDiceBisonte @CELS As someone who almost didn't lose his whole family to polio in The Oregon Trail when I was 7, I believe Roadwarden would be mere child's play to a gamer like me

specialmin64 (Level 4 Rubbish) @ 11/28/2022 14:15

@hapiel Cool, good to know about this chat box thing. I'm excited about A.I. images too, but the truth is I'm even more scared by it (I was being a little facetious before). The new Joel Haver video and Edward Denton posts on Artstation are what sealed the deal for me. Anyways, sorry for the interruption!

SeDiceBisonte (Level 8 Spaceman) @ 11/28/2022 14:01

@eishiya: I love The Company of Wolves. It's such a great film to watch around Halloween. The dreamlike, folkore feel is wonderful. I started reading The Bloody Chamber (for those that don't know, that's the Angela Carter collection containing the story the film is based on) but need to finish it. Which other werewolf films would you recommend? I think I've only seen An American Werewolf in London otherwise. Ginger Snaps is on my watchlist already.

@CELS: Roadwarden looks great. I'll look into that more tomorrow (which conveniently is the last day of the Steam Autumn sale).

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/28/2022 13:34

Wow, thank you for sharing this game. I had zero knowledge about it and it is exactly in my type.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/28/2022 13:21
@specialmin64, Of course you're allowed to post about that, sorry that it got ignored because of the other debate going on!
I too like seeing the progress that is being made, it's an exciting time for visual mediums! I wonder what this will all mean to us 10 years from now.

CELS (Level 7 Lotus) @ 11/28/2022 13:04

Have any of you played Roadwarden? A pixel art game with overwhelmingly positive reviews on Steam (777). I like the concept a lot.

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/28/2022 12:44

No you didn't, at least not to my knowledge. That is true. What is also true that there is no rule that mods MUST accept everyone who did not break any rules, otherwise they are breaking the First Amendment of Pixel Art Communities. You cannot go to the Discord Supreme Court and demand enforcement od your inherent right to be allowed info PJ Discord server. We have the right to protect the peace of our community when we have any reasonable concerns. Stop focusing on crimes you did not do and start thinking on contribution you are willing to bring to the community. For example, stop talking about how Jal influenced your pixel art and show us the results. Stop demanding and start giving. Show, not tell. And than we can get back to this discussion. So far 8 months have passed and you have only confirmed that our decision was right.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/28/2022 12:04

Just to confirm I violated no actual rules, correct?

@Reo, yeah between Murder On The Orient Express and Death On The Nile murder mysteries seem to be coming back.

Reo (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 11/28/2022 11:23

@Green: I don't run the discord! I just linked you there. Neat, murder mysteries seem "hot" lately.

@Eishya: Been meaning to give that a go for a long while! That and Ginger Snaps. Need more werewolves in my life. 

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/28/2022 11:19

Ok. Another missinformation attempt so here goes:

1) 8 moths ago I replied to one of your rants about PJ being a dead community. I told you that maybe PJ page is more silent nowadays, becasue most of the life have transfered to Discord, where community is thriving. Sent you a link to go see for yourself.

2) Becasue I did that without consultation with other mods, in the heat of our exchange, the consensus decision between all mods was to not let you in during your ranting phase, becasue we were happy of how the discord community is doing, and that proving you the PJ community is alive and well was not worth the risk of you turning it into another rant playground.

3) We asked you to proove with your actions that your interests are making pixel art or talking about pixel art primarly, so we could let you in. Yet you haven't submitted any pixel art since then, and your comment history is still mostly about how bad PJ is now and how good it was with Jal.

4) I explained all that to you in a private message, which you are currentluy ignoring willingly, and continue to spread missinformation, therefore the answer to the question "why you are still not allowed into discord?" is pretty easy.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/28/2022 10:56

I clicked on the discord link which you gave me, posted a single word "hello" and was immediately booted from the server.

What was even the point of telling me to join discord if you're just going to boot me?

And yes I've seen plenty of good movies, watched See How They Run last night, it was interesting.

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/28/2022 07:40

I know the movie thing wasn't directed at me, but I wanted the Company of Wolves a week or two ago and I think it's my new favourite werewolf film.

Reo (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 11/28/2022 02:56

This is getting tiresome Green and it pains me to see you keep acting this way. 

No amount of wallowing or lashing out will bring back people that have moved on (mentally or physically). And I feel in you this self-destructive urge, that you can’t bring yourself to move on, so you’ll flail out, stir shit until somebody makes the decision for you.


Nobody has been given more leeway in this community. To submit troll-pieces, rage-delete things or fuel on drama. Yet I do remember just talking to you, normally, in the chat & irc.

And that was nice. That can still be nice. That is what its going on in the Discord. 

But you gotta ask yourself, what am I bringing to this community? If it isn’t pixel art or to chat, what is it?


People like me and Hapiel have been around alongside you on this site for 15 years. It is very possible to be part of this community, to enjoy it and grow from it but it does require treating the people here, new and old, with respect. The same respect you have been given, tirelessly, by the mods and users here for over a decade. 


This feels like talking to a void at this point.You seen any good movies lately? 

gawrone (Level 11 Dimetrodon) @ 11/28/2022 01:09

What you wrote is a manipulation, with an intention to misinform unaware users, by presenting yourself as a poor victim of evil moderators. Acts like that were the reason why we decided not to let you in to PJ discord, until you have prooven, that your intentions are pure, and include pixel art related conversations and building a friendly and healthy community. You are still allowed to write rants about "good ol days when the moderators of PJ were not us" in here. If you are not intersested in sharing pixel art or thoughts about it, but only about gospeling new PJ users that they should leave, becasue Jal is not here anymore so PJ is shit, than you are free to start your own discord server or subreddit dedicated to your true interests.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/27/2022 17:33

Here is fine.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/27/2022 17:17

If you're indeed in need of an explanation, you can message me or any other mod and we can go over it once again.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/27/2022 16:57

Changing the subject is a sign of guilt.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/27/2022 16:41
Just so you know, subreddit moderators can also remove someone's access to a subreddit, there is even a whole subreddit dedicated to discussing bans.

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/26/2022 16:31

I mean why not reddit at this point. It's a public forum open to everyone at least. Unlike the private club that is discord where some petty gatekeepers can just kick you out if you're not elite enough for the hivemind groupthink.

Fyi all I said was "hello" and was immedately booted from the server. Explain that please.

specialmin64 (Level 4 Rubbish) @ 11/26/2022 15:44

idk if I'm allowed to post this here, but does anyone else love A.I. art? It gets better every day and I think that's great

StevenM (Level 7 SNES) @ 11/24/2022 18:15

Posted 2 months ago


Presumably he got his answer

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/24/2022 07:42
I too don't think that a subreddit would be of any use, as it is indeed likely to turn into a free-for-all. With no distinction of who are insiders and outsiders, different usernames and no good avatars, it is not a great platform for community building let alone a place to continue our community!
It will not support collabs well, as there is no image embedding in comments, and posts can be only either images or text, not both....
But alas, it seems like Sedge is looking for a future where he doesn't need to fix bugs from time to time.

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/24/2022 06:27

Reddit's default sort isn't chronological, but there is a chronological sort option, Sort by Old. Unfortunately it's up to the user to set it, and there doesn't seem to be a way to save your preference, not even globally. I don't think it's practicable.

Trigonomicon (Level 8 Tengu) @ 11/24/2022 01:33

I haven't used reddit much really, how well could it support stuff like the ISO collabs? If I remember correctly it doesn't sort replies chronologically, that could be a problem.

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/23/2022 15:00

I'd rather the focus remain on the forum here. It's janky, but at least it's here and not some 3rd party site, and it also has links to everyone's PJ gallery.

I also suspect that unless it's very carefully moderated, a PJ subreddit would just turn into yet another pixel art free-for-all and would not be a good place to talk to PJ folks or about PJ.

Gecimen (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 11/23/2022 14:34

Forum should be clean with some blockers added but Sedge says maybe we can run a PJ subreddit. What do you think?

specialmin64 (Level 4 Rubbish) @ 11/23/2022 08:28

cool music

Mathias (Level 6 Garbage) @ 11/23/2022 01:50

Yeah it's good!

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/22/2022 14:15

Pretty good stuff, I like it. 

Mathias (Level 6 Garbage) @ 11/19/2022 22:48

Ohhh cool, those castle buildin' people are doing it slowly so more people can go check out the process IRL. That's actually a good idea.

Nice Schoq, gonna give it a listen.

Schoq (Level 5 Harbor Seal) @ 11/19/2022 09:19

Tracker music is an adjacent interest to pixel art right?
I made a thing that I thought I'd drop by and tell y'all about.

eishiya (Level 7 Bunyip) @ 11/18/2022 16:32

Using only a Commodore that they also built themselves, at that! Hopefully they will at least have better schematics to go off than the drawings of tools that the Guedelon Castle builders have xP

It's worth mentioning that Guedelon Castle is deliberately being built slowly, to give more visitors the chance to see the process.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/18/2022 15:33

I can't wait until 500 years from now when they try to create video games for the commodore using only the commodore, for educational purposes! It will be great

greenraven (Level 2 Hired Gun) @ 11/17/2022 10:25

I really miss how PJ used to be, just a fun chill place to post your MSpaint oekaki and you didn't have to worry about anyone putting you on a burning cross for it.

Those were the good times. 

Mathias (Level 6 Garbage) @ 11/16/2022 23:46

There's dudes in France that've been building a castle for 20 years with only medieval tools. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2063FitRHQ

Hey, whatever floats their bloat. But if it were me, I'm bringing my power tools, that's all I'm sayin', mang.
Use the PJ forum? oy nahh nevermind.
gotta go, there's pixel blasphemy a plenty that needs committin'.
Keep up the good work.

Hapiel (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 11/15/2022 06:07
I'm so happy the chatterbox still serves it's original purpose: Providing space for the yearly 'what is pixel art really' discussion ;)
It's a confusing and exciting time for art and pixel art, I can't wait to discover what I think is right and wrong 10 years from now!

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