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Hapiel
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Posted: 09 November 2009 at 3:40pm

Originally posted by Riva

I really like the idea.
(but he shouldn't have his legs in the water maybe ? :)

Originally posted by lucas_irineu

Yeah, I did this very quickly, months ago, just to enter the challenge. Wasnt paying much attention to details back then.

Thats not really harsh right?
;)

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CrapFactory
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Posted: 13 November 2009 at 3:44pm

Negative criticism is so much more helpful. Sure it can go too far sometimes. However I enjoy good negative criticism much more than "great job! I love it!" when I'm working on a WIP.

Seriously, I kind of hate it when I post in a forum a WIP and all I get are "that's great!" and "awesome!" rather than stuff that would help me advance.

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ellie-is
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Posted: 14 November 2009 at 9:26am

Originally posted by Lollige

Originally posted by Riva

I really like the idea.
(but he shouldn't have his legs in the water maybe ? :)

Originally posted by lucas_irineu

Yeah, I did this very quickly, months ago, just to enter the challenge.
Wasnt paying much attention to details back then.

Thats not really harsh right?;)

Lol not at all. But thats not the one I'm talking about :P
I think it was a crappy face I did a while ago, that I deleted.

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hixdei-love
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 2:09am

if thats the case, then this comment is out of line abit

"ok, just for your info i did NOT recolour the orignal or trace

Oh, really? Then this is an amazing coincidence:

We'll be happy to accept your art when you stop lying to us and start submitting your own work. "

mainly cause, one sarcasm, two i atualy DID draw my picture i used the image as a refrence and copyed pixel by pixel and three their said 'proof' showing my inage and the orignal, the colours of the orignal fur were much darker and mine was much lighter i know this cause i used a defolt gray in my painting program and worked from that while i was drawing

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ellie-is
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Posted: 20 November 2009 at 8:28am

First, copying pixel by pixel is the same thing as tracing.
Two, even if the colors are different, recoloring existing sprites is against the rules just like tracing.

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greenraven
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Posted: 06 December 2009 at 10:05am

I just realized something interesting...

Most artists (and not just artists, but any profession or hobby) ask for criticism and they all want people to point out what they did wrong.

Well, there's nothing wrong with knowing your flaws, but why not ask for what you did right? It's nice to know your strengths too.

I just found this kinda interesting. I think proper criticism should also include positive as well as negative. Too many people focus too much on the negative when critiquing.

"pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso

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pipe
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Posted: 07 December 2009 at 2:07pm

I think the artist is aware of what he is doing right so he wants to focus on the things he is doing wrong.He will get many positive comments praising his work later he finishes it(if it is good enough of course).I expect only critisism when I post my work in the Wip forum and that how things should be.

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Evilagram
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 7:01am

At the lower levels of art, doing something right is more an absence of doing something wrong. I'd say that something done right is when you invent something that "makes" a piece.

For the most part, criticism should be directed at mistakes, and suggestions for study. I don't believe in balancing harsh criticism with nice comments, a person should be able to take bad news and not shoot the messenger.

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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 09 November 2009 at 3:40pm
	*Originally posted by Riva* I really like the idea. (but he shouldn't have his legs in the water maybe ? :) *Originally posted by lucas_irineu* Yeah, I did this very quickly, months ago, just to enter the challenge. Wasnt paying much attention to details back then. Thats not really harsh right? ;)
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CrapFactory Midshipman Joined: 04 April 2007 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 52	Posted: 13 November 2009 at 3:44pm
	Negative criticism is so much more helpful. Sure it can go too far sometimes. However I enjoy good negative criticism much more than "great job! I love it!" when I'm working on a WIP. Seriously, I kind of hate it when I post in a forum a WIP and all I get are "that's great!" and "awesome!" rather than stuff that would help me advance.
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ellie-is Commander Joined: 12 September 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 706	Posted: 14 November 2009 at 9:26am
	*Originally posted by Lollige* *Originally posted by Riva* I really like the idea. (but he shouldn't have his legs in the water maybe ? :) *Originally posted by lucas_irineu* Yeah, I did this very quickly, months ago, just to enter the challenge. Wasnt paying much attention to details back then. Thats not really harsh right?;) Lol not at all. But thats not the one I'm talking about :P I think it was a crappy face I did a while ago, that I deleted.
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hixdei-love Seaman Joined: 18 November 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Posted: 20 November 2009 at 2:09am
	if thats the case, then this comment is out of line abit "ok, just for your info i did NOT* recolour the orignal or trace* Oh, really? Then this is an amazing coincidence: We'll be happy to accept your art when you stop lying to us and start submitting your own work. " mainly cause, one sarcasm, two i atualy DID draw my picture i used the image as a refrence and copyed pixel by pixel and three their said 'proof' showing my inage and the orignal, the colours of the orignal fur were much darker and mine was much lighter i know this cause i used a defolt gray in my painting program and worked from that while i was drawing
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ellie-is Commander Joined: 12 September 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 706	Posted: 20 November 2009 at 8:28am
	First, copying pixel by pixel is the same thing as tracing. Two, even if the colors are different, recoloring existing sprites is against the rules just like tracing.
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greenraven Commander Joined: 08 September 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2598	Posted: 06 December 2009 at 10:05am
	I just realized something interesting... Most artists (and not just artists, but any profession or hobby) ask for criticism and they all want people to point out what they did wrong. Well, there's nothing wrong with knowing your flaws, but why not ask for what you did right? It's nice to know your strengths too. I just found this kinda interesting. I think proper criticism should also include positive as well as negative. Too many people focus too much on the negative when critiquing.
	"pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso
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pipe Commander Joined: 11 August 2008 Location: Croatia Online Status: Offline Posts: 110	Posted: 07 December 2009 at 2:07pm
	I think the artist is aware of what he is doing right so he wants to focus on the things he is doing wrong.He will get many positive comments praising his work later he finishes it(if it is good enough of course).I expect only critisism when I post my work in the Wip forum and that how things should be.
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Evilagram Commander Joined: 05 August 2008 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 168	Posted: 10 December 2009 at 7:01am
	At the lower levels of art, doing something right is more an absence of doing something wrong. I'd say that something done right is when you invent something that "makes" a piece. For the most part, criticism should be directed at mistakes, and suggestions for study. I don't believe in balancing harsh criticism with nice comments, a person should be able to take bad news and not shoot the messenger.
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