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Saiklor
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Topic: NPA mermaid and crab WIP
Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:55pm

Hey guys! Want to help a girl out (yes, I AM a girl!) and give me useful critiques on this work? It's not pixel art (I'm using 100% msWord if you believe it!) and I really want to make it GREAT! So be critical!!!

Thanks!

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sedgemonkey
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:43pm

What do you mean you are using MSWord?

One of the things that helps when using this vector style is to use different line weights to show depth.

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jujucece
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Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:40pm

You use MSWord as a vector drawing program ???

You should better use something specialized like Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape (an open source product very impressive... working under Linux or Windows).

For the picture, it's a very nice picture.

For my point of view, some shades are missing, and different line weights will be good too...

Nice work ! But still needs enhancement...

Jujucece

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Saiklor
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:39am

sedgemonkey: below is a screenshot of me working on the piece (recolouring the tail actually, see how it's selected and I've opened the format autoshape menu?), hope it helps clarify how I'm doing it.

jujucece: please don't tell me to get "better" programs or make disgruntled faces at me, some of us can't afford to buy AND aren't allowed to download new programs, we have to work with what we have.

alright, I'll hop to work on some different thicknesses of lines. :) thanks for the input.

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Blueberry_pie
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:48am

Wow, never knew you could do such things with MS Word

Did you even do the sky background in Word?

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Saiklor
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:54am

the sky, lol the sky, what hatred I have now for that damn sky. It's about 3 different textures made semi-transparent and then grouped, with a transparent texture overtop and some random wiggly shapes that are gradients within themselves scattered around so it looked "uneven" It took me longer to do that I will admit. Stupid sky.

and yeah, you can do almost anything with msWord, it's fun that way :-)

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jujucece
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:55am

saiklor: I'm very sorry if I shocked you... But I didn't know that you had such restrictions... Sorry again...

But if you can download and try a litte bit inkscape, I'm sure you'll be impressed...

Jujucece

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emiko
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:59am

*high five to Saiklor* I used to use Word97 to do this stuff all the time when I took Comp Ed in high school, but my stuff was never quite this good.... you totally win a million cool points for doing this (I hipe you put it on DevART or something when you finish).

As for C/C, I think you should add some textures to the water, like a squigly wave formation? I like how you did the sky, so dont leave the water with just that gradient! I will cry if you do ^^

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Saiklor
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 9:36am

emiko: I wouldn't want to make you cry so I'll be working on that next :)

and YAY! someone else uses unconventional programs! YAY! *high five!*

And I'm trying to bring it up to snuff enough to post on epilogue.net, so when it gets good enough you'll see it there!

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Lawrence
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 12:52pm

Ooh, I like all the different colours in her hair. I think perhaps it could do with a bit of shading/highlights in the water. It's really good.

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xtremetom
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 1:12pm

not sure on your downloading restrictions, but i could easily email you more advanced vector art programs, like xara-x.

Lets Build "thePA"

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Saiklor
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Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:13pm

I don't want to sound ungrateful but this isn't my computer (it's my parents) and so I can't download onto it w/o their permission and they're out of town just this moment.

I WILL take you up on the offer next week sometime when I get my laptop back on the go, it's currently running stupidly slow and needs a digital kick in the pants, so to speak.

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kiwidesign
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Posted: 13 July 2005 at 9:50am

Originally posted by Saiklor

I don't want to sound ungrateful but this isn't my computer (it's my parents) and so I can't download onto it w/o their permission and they're out of town just this moment.

I tried too to do something with word like you, many years ago, but I stopped with smiles and strange shapes

"She doesn't quite chop his head off. She makes a Pez dispenser out of him"

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Kirra
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Posted: 13 July 2005 at 11:41am

I never knew you could use msword.. I dont even have msword though so pfft..

That is awesome though how you did that. I like it alot.

If you need adobe or something.. just give me a call too.

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PixelSnader
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Posted: 13 July 2005 at 3:52pm

yeah word is pretty OK for vectoring things. very usefull for spicing up school reports 'n stuff

now for the piece. i think that the submersed lower line of the tail should fade out faster , to comply with the water density that the other lines show.

allso her hands are weird. her fingers are more like tentacles, and the left hand has 5 fingers and no thumb. draw the line between the ''thumbfinger'' and indexfinger a bit further(since the thumb is set back on the hand IRL too

she's allso looking crosseyes, and the lower part of her face seems to come forward a bit too much.

allso i think that you should choose between shading and no shading(crab is shaded but she aint) and to make sure that the style of the water is the same as that of the sky(right now the water is very plain.. )it might be wise to save that for the last though.. so you can work normally on the parts of the pic. that are under water. its annoying to have to flip througs dozens of layers to get to where you wanna be =)

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1ucas
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Posted: 13 July 2005 at 11:01pm

Nice use for MS Word. This looks really nifty, you did a great job.

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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Topic: NPA mermaid and crab WIP Posted: 07 July 2005 at 7:55pm
	Hey guys! Want to help a girl out (yes, I AM a girl!) and give me useful critiques on this work? It's not pixel art (I'm using 100% msWord if you believe it!) and I really want to make it GREAT! So be critical!!! Thanks!
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sedgemonkey Admiral Joined: 07 April 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1669	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 9:43pm
	What do you mean you are using MSWord? One of the things that helps when using this vector style is to use different line weights to show depth.
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 07 July 2005 at 11:40pm
	You use MSWord as a vector drawing program ??? You should better use something specialized like Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape (an open source product very impressive... working under Linux or Windows). For the picture, it's a very nice picture. For my point of view, some shades are missing, and different line weights will be good too... Nice work ! But still needs enhancement...
	Jujucece
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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:39am
	sedgemonkey: below is a screenshot of me working on the piece (recolouring the tail actually, see how it's selected and I've opened the format autoshape menu?), hope it helps clarify how I'm doing it. jujucece: please don't tell me to get "better" programs or make disgruntled faces at me, some of us can't afford to buy AND aren't allowed to download new programs, we have to work with what we have. alright, I'll hop to work on some different thicknesses of lines. :) thanks for the input.
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Blueberry_pie Rear Admiral Joined: 24 July 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2176	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:48am
	Wow, never knew you could do such things with MS Word Did you even do the sky background in Word? Edited by Blueberry_pie
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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:54am
	the sky, lol the sky, what hatred I have now for that damn sky. It's about 3 different textures made semi-transparent and then grouped, with a transparent texture overtop and some random wiggly shapes that are gradients within themselves scattered around so it looked "uneven" It took me longer to do that I will admit. Stupid sky. and yeah, you can do almost anything with msWord, it's fun that way :-)
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jujucece Midshipman Joined: 06 July 2005 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 60	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:55am
	saiklor: I'm very sorry if I shocked you... But I didn't know that you had such restrictions... Sorry again... But if you can download and try a litte bit inkscape, I'm sure you'll be impressed...
	Jujucece
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emiko Seaman Joined: 21 June 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 25	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 8:59am
	high five to Saiklor I used to use Word97 to do this stuff all the time when I took Comp Ed in high school, but my stuff was never quite this good.... you totally win a million cool points for doing this (I hipe you put it on DevART or something when you finish). As for C/C, I think you should add some textures to the water, like a squigly wave formation? I like how you did the sky, so dont leave the water with just that gradient! I will cry if you do ^^
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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 9:36am
	emiko: I wouldn't want to make you cry so I'll be working on that next :) and YAY! someone else uses unconventional programs! YAY! high five! And I'm trying to bring it up to snuff enough to post on epilogue.net, so when it gets good enough you'll see it there!
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Lawrence Commander Joined: 30 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 481	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 12:52pm
	Ooh, I like all the different colours in her hair. I think perhaps it could do with a bit of shading/highlights in the water. It's really good.
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xtremetom Commander Joined: 13 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 105	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 1:12pm
	not sure on your downloading restrictions, but i could easily email you more advanced vector art programs, like xara-x.
	Lets Build "thePA"
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Saiklor Commander Joined: 16 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 230	Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:13pm
	I don't want to sound ungrateful but this isn't my computer (it's my parents) and so I can't download onto it w/o their permission and they're out of town just this moment. I WILL take you up on the offer next week sometime when I get my laptop back on the go, it's currently running stupidly slow and needs a digital kick in the pants, so to speak.
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kiwidesign Midshipman Joined: 24 June 2005 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 95	Posted: 13 July 2005 at 9:50am
	*Originally posted by Saiklor* I don't want to sound ungrateful but this isn't my computer (it's my parents) and so I can't download onto it w/o their permission and they're out of town just this moment. I tried too to do something with word like you, many years ago, but I stopped with smiles and strange shapes
	"She doesn't quite chop his head off. She makes a Pez dispenser out of him"
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Kirra Midshipman Joined: 12 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Posted: 13 July 2005 at 11:41am
	I never knew you could use msword.. I dont even have msword though so pfft.. That is awesome though how you did that. I like it alot. If you need adobe or something.. just give me a call too.
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 13 July 2005 at 3:52pm
	yeah word is pretty OK for vectoring things. very usefull for spicing up school reports 'n stuff now for the piece. i think that the submersed lower line of the tail should fade out faster , to comply with the water density that the other lines show. allso her hands are weird. her fingers are more like tentacles, and the left hand has 5 fingers and no thumb. draw the line between the ''thumbfinger'' and indexfinger a bit further(since the thumb is set back on the hand IRL too she's allso looking crosseyes, and the lower part of her face seems to come forward a bit too much. allso i think that you should choose between shading and no shading(crab is shaded but she aint) and to make sure that the style of the water is the same as that of the sky(right now the water is very plain.. )it might be wise to save that for the last though.. so you can work normally on the parts of the pic. that are under water. its annoying to have to flip througs dozens of layers to get to where you wanna be =) Edited by snader
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1ucas Commander Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 13 July 2005 at 11:01pm
	Nice use for MS Word. This looks really nifty, you did a great job.
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