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Indigo
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Topic: Buff .... nothing more to say
Posted: 11 July 2005 at 2:18am

alright, usually i dont post WIPS. Its against my pixel ethics, but whatever. I need some help on something. I made this really cool buff guy (lacking clothing) and I need to add cool clothing to him and give him some character. the problem i am facing right now is that I spent too much time on the muscels and i'm now afraid to cover them

Things I am currently working on:
1) the arms (specifically his left - our right)
2) the hands (i haven't even really started that yet)
3) the muscel structure in the legs

basically i just need ideas for what to turn this guy into. whoever has the best idea - i will do.....im just kinda getting embarrised when people walk by the computer to see me drawing a naked guy that kinda looks like he's in the peeing position. help me out here.

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Xero
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 3:13am

The hulk? lol I dunno really.. I suppose you could just recolour the muscles to make a tight shirt and tight pants... Maybe just turn him into some kind of creature like the hulk..

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Bear
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 9:44am

looks more like the thing from F4

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PixelSnader
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 10:08am

its really blurry, you could try to fix that by adding more contrast to the hues or by making the lines etc. of the dark colour, and then slightly aa (instead of making whole medium lightness colour lines next to it)

allso, his lower arm looks really weird. in reality the arm isnt that straight, and the muscles arent divided like that. especialy the top muscle of the underarm, it shouldnt go all the way into the upper arm

and it might be a nice idea to give him -some- nech, becayse right now his chin directly merges with his chest

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sedgemonkey
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:10pm

Interesting philosophy on WIPs.

Oh man, that is such a shame to have to cover up such fine pixelling with clothes. He should be holding a head by the hair or something like a villanous conquerer.

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pixelblink
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:16pm

Look friggin fantastic!

I think you should draw him peeing. You could animate it too. Seriously though, I have no ideas where you could take this

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Saboteur
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:49pm

this calls for... SPANDEX!

"I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business."

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ryan-gfx
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Posted: 11 July 2005 at 3:20pm

It's very nice pixelling.. but I'm puzzled why you decide to add clothes to cover up the wonderfully pixelled body.

Personally I think clothes would ruin it.

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Indigo
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Posted: 12 July 2005 at 1:29am

Xero:
heh, yeah - he kinda does look like the hulk, but mostly I hear he looks like the thing from F4.

Bear:
prooved my point. :) thanks.... I really didn't mean him to look like the thing though.

Snader:
hmm... seems like I need to clear up a few missconceptions you have about anatomy....

"allso, his lower arm looks really weird"
well, first off, I already stated that The arms are not finished, but thanks for the input. With that in mind...

"and the muscles arent divided like that"
well, I'm not sure which muscel group your talking about, but I'm pretty sure I got all of the divisions right. The deltoid properly seperates the bicept from the tricept and connects down into the extensor carti radialis like its supposed to. the hand extensors properly divide the extensor carti radialis with the flexor carti radialis.... I dont see too much wrong here. I guess it just looks weird for you because of 2 reasons: 1) The shapes are a little wrong, but im working on that. 2) we hardly ever see people with that much build in their forearm. Here is a pic to show the muscel groups i'm talking about. wipped it up pretty fast (forgive the crudeness)

"it shouldnt go all the way into the upper arm"
Yes it should. there is a muscel inbetween the bicept and tricept that acts like a bridge between the deltoid and the extensor carpi radialis. It is a seperate muscel, but it seems to connect them together. ...its actually more like a tendon. I can't seem to remember the name of that one, so i'll have to get back to you on that. just take a look at some body buider pics.

Other than that - you are probably right about the neck and the contrast issue in the upper body. I'm not sure if i want to sharpen the upper body or add more shades to the lower to match. oh well, i'll think of something. and thanks for the great input.

sedgemonkey:
Yeah, I only have that ethic because if you post a wip and never finish it for some reason - it builds a bad reputation.

pixelblink:
lol, then i'd REALLY be embarrised when working on it when somebody passes by.

Saboteur:
You are definately right, my friend. That seems to be the only answer. Maybe thats why superheroes always wear spandex - the artists didn't want to cover up their hard work. :P

ryan-gfx:
heh, thanks. Yeah, your right - it probably would ruin the pic....I'm pretty sure im gunna gor for the spandex solution.

Edited by Indigo

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kankki
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Posted: 12 July 2005 at 2:02am

So much muscles, OMG! Nice pic tough!

Edited by kankki

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Aleiav
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Posted: 14 July 2005 at 10:59pm

Honestly, I think it looks fine on it's own. :) W/o clothes. He could be like The Flesh from Action League Now. :)

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PixelSnader
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Posted: 15 July 2005 at 12:07am

http://www.eghs.brevard.k12.fl.us/Teachers/kingkr/arm1.gif

and a quickish edit (so it aint perfect.. sue me :P)

green= there is barely muscle here, go feel on the top side of your wist, you (allmost) immediately touch the bonesies, and between them are just a couple of tendons

the red area has different overlapping then the way you drew em. check the link for exactly how they move over oneanother

the pink areas i just felt like editing =)

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Xion Night
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Posted: 15 July 2005 at 8:59am

Dunno why, but his feet scare me. I don't like feet.

Anyway, make him into a mounty.
Or a sewer mutant.
Or a man in a suit.
A bouncer?

Kizzah!

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Indigo
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Posted: 15 July 2005 at 9:33pm

snader -
thanks for the edit. I will shape the arm better. Just as a minor note; the arm was never finished to begin with. I really need C+C on the parts that i didn't mention in my first post ... "Things I am currently working on: 1) the arms" maybe this is why i dont like posting WIPs. still though, thanks for the kind help.

everybody -
thanks for the comments. I'll try to get an update in here soon.

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Indigo Commander Joined: 20 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Topic: Buff .... nothing more to say Posted: 11 July 2005 at 2:18am
	alright, usually i dont post WIPS. Its against my pixel ethics, but whatever. I need some help on something. I made this really cool buff guy (lacking clothing) and I need to add cool clothing to him and give him some character. the problem i am facing right now is that I spent too much time on the muscels and i'm now afraid to cover them Things I am currently working on: 1) the arms (specifically his left - our right) 2) the hands (i haven't even really started that yet) 3) the muscel structure in the legs basically i just need ideas for what to turn this guy into. whoever has the best idea - i will do.....im just kinda getting embarrised when people walk by the computer to see me drawing a naked guy that kinda looks like he's in the peeing position. help me out here.
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Xero Midshipman Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 3:13am
	The hulk? lol I dunno really.. I suppose you could just recolour the muscles to make a tight shirt and tight pants... Maybe just turn him into some kind of creature like the hulk.. Edited by Xero
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Bear Commander Joined: 20 April 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 147	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 9:44am
	looks more like the thing from F4
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 10:08am
	its really blurry, you could try to fix that by adding more contrast to the hues or by making the lines etc. of the dark colour, and then slightly aa (instead of making whole medium lightness colour lines next to it) allso, his lower arm looks really weird. in reality the arm isnt that straight, and the muscles arent divided like that. especialy the top muscle of the underarm, it shouldnt go all the way into the upper arm and it might be a nice idea to give him -some- nech, becayse right now his chin directly merges with his chest
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sedgemonkey Admiral Joined: 07 April 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1669	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:10pm
	Interesting philosophy on WIPs. Oh man, that is such a shame to have to cover up such fine pixelling with clothes. He should be holding a head by the hair or something like a villanous conquerer.
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:16pm
	Look friggin fantastic! I think you should draw him peeing. You could animate it too. Seriously though, I have no ideas where you could take this
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Saboteur Commander Joined: 29 January 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 888	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 1:49pm
	this calls for... SPANDEX!
	"I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business."
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ryan-gfx Commander Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 244	Posted: 11 July 2005 at 3:20pm
	It's very nice pixelling.. but I'm puzzled why you decide to add clothes to cover up the wonderfully pixelled body. Personally I think clothes would ruin it.
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Indigo Commander Joined: 20 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 12 July 2005 at 1:29am
	Xero: heh, yeah - he kinda does look like the hulk, but mostly I hear he looks like the thing from F4. Bear: prooved my point. :) thanks.... I really didn't mean him to look like the thing though. Snader: hmm... seems like I need to clear up a few missconceptions you have about anatomy.... "allso, his lower arm looks really weird" well, first off, I already stated that The arms are not finished, but thanks for the input. With that in mind... "and the muscles arent divided like that" well, I'm not sure which muscel group your talking about, but I'm pretty sure I got all of the divisions right. The deltoid properly seperates the bicept from the tricept and connects down into the extensor carti radialis like its supposed to. the hand extensors properly divide the extensor carti radialis with the flexor carti radialis.... I dont see too much wrong here. I guess it just looks weird for you because of 2 reasons: 1) The shapes are a little wrong, but im working on that. 2) we hardly ever see people with that much build in their forearm. Here is a pic to show the muscel groups i'm talking about. wipped it up pretty fast (forgive the crudeness) "it shouldnt go all the way into the upper arm" Yes it should. there is a muscel inbetween the bicept and tricept that acts like a bridge between the deltoid and the extensor carpi radialis. It is a seperate muscel, but it seems to connect them together. ...its actually more like a tendon. I can't seem to remember the name of that one, so i'll have to get back to you on that. just take a look at some body buider pics. Other than that - you are probably right about the neck and the contrast issue in the upper body. I'm not sure if i want to sharpen the upper body or add more shades to the lower to match. oh well, i'll think of something. and thanks for the great input. sedgemonkey: Yeah, I only have that ethic because if you post a wip and never finish it for some reason - it builds a bad reputation. pixelblink: lol, then i'd REALLY be embarrised when working on it when somebody passes by. Saboteur: You are definately right, my friend. That seems to be the only answer. Maybe thats why superheroes always wear spandex - the artists didn't want to cover up their hard work. :P ryan-gfx: heh, thanks. Yeah, your right - it probably would ruin the pic....I'm pretty sure im gunna gor for the spandex solution. Edited by Indigo
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kankki Commander Joined: 26 March 2005 Location: Finland Online Status: Offline Posts: 195	Posted: 12 July 2005 at 2:02am
	So much muscles, OMG! Nice pic tough! Edited by kankki
	Well, duuuh, I can eat spam if I have to!
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 14 July 2005 at 10:59pm
	Honestly, I think it looks fine on it's own. :) W/o clothes. He could be like The Flesh from Action League Now. :)
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 15 July 2005 at 12:07am
	http://www.eghs.brevard.k12.fl.us/Teachers/kingkr/arm1.gif and a quickish edit (so it aint perfect.. sue me :P) green= there is barely muscle here, go feel on the top side of your wist, you (allmost) immediately touch the bonesies, and between them are just a couple of tendons the red area has different overlapping then the way you drew em. check the link for exactly how they move over oneanother the pink areas i just felt like editing =)
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Xion Night Midshipman Joined: 10 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 67	Posted: 15 July 2005 at 8:59am
	Dunno why, but his feet scare me. I don't like feet. Anyway, make him into a mounty. Or a sewer mutant. Or a man in a suit. A bouncer?
	Kizzah!
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Indigo Commander Joined: 20 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 15 July 2005 at 9:33pm
	snader - thanks for the edit. I will shape the arm better. Just as a minor note; the arm was never finished to begin with. I really need C+C on the parts that i didn't mention in my first post ... "Things I am currently working on: 1) the arms" maybe this is why i dont like posting WIPs. still though, thanks for the kind help. everybody - thanks for the comments. I'll try to get an update in here soon.
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