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    Posted: 07 March 2007 at 5:22am
Im creating this pyramid for isocity.. What do you guys think I could improve??












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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 8:31am
Looks great. Maybe trying a version without any blacks may look better? The grey of the sidewalk looks very flast. With the brick texture some on the sidewalk would balance things out better. Maybe re-visit that ovey saturated green wall too ;) Great structure, it should look nice in isocity.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 8:44am
thank you for your comment!
About the sidewalk: Its just the isocity sidewalk, I made it like this to make it fit nice :)
About the green walls:
You are right, they look weird.. but I have no idea what to do with it.. :(

I allways paint pixel art with black outlines, just because I have the feeling it looks ok, and im too lazy to find out with what I should replace it... With what should I replace it? Just nothing?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:32am
I always find that using a very dark hue of the shade you're working with looks great. If you'd like, take a look at the iso stuff in my gallery where nothing is ever outlined in black...I think :/
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 10:10am
Hi Lollige,

Come on, don't be lazy and experiment

Try a brown wall.
Or replace the wall with bushes.
Or put a golf-hole + flag on the grass.

Put people (shades) behind the windows.

Instead of golf put animals on the roof.
Go grazy!

Or do a classic version with laundry hanging
out for the dry on the roof.

Endulge with your pixel.

I'm looking forward to your progress!

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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 10:43am
Originally posted by M.E.


Come on, don't be lazy and experiment

Try a brown wall.
Or replace the wall with bushes.
Or put a golf-hole + flag on the grass.

Put people (shades) behind the windows.

Instead of golf put animals on the roof.
Go grazy!

Or do a classic version with laundry hanging
out for the dry on the roof.


Ok, thats a usefull message

Dont be lazy and experiment:
I actually do experiment, for 5 minutes, on a totally new piece, that never gets finished.. Ok you are right, I should experiment some more on work I am not creating just to be never finished... But im allways afraid that when I do something wrong, I loose alot of time.. Also I allmost never save wips, so if I do something wrong, I cant turn it back.. I should save more WIPs I think... Ok ill try to experiment

Try a brown wall.
Or replace the wall with bushes.
Or put a golf-hole + flag on the grass.

I dont like the idea of a brown wall, cos there red/brown bricks under it... I like colorfull things :)
The bushes idea is ok, I allready thought about it myself, but its a bit weird to put bushes on a roof
Ok pixel art is weird, thats what I like about it :), but im not that weird (me as a person is, but thats someting else)
A golf hole?? Ur crazy?
But what has that to do with the bushes?
Actually when I started I thought it was going to be a fence.. But that didnt turn out that good.. So I changed it.. ok ill make bushes..

Instead of golf put animals on the roof.
Go grazy!
Yeah animals on the roof.. I wished I could do some normal pixel art too, and draw animals.... :(
Going crazy is something I should practice...

Put people (shades) behind the windows.
Wow great idea!! (the shades)
I was planning to make shops from them, with display windows, but it was too small for it.. but shades of people should be easy! Ty!

Or do a classic version with laundry hanging
out for the dry on the roof.
hmm thats ok too, but maybe a bit too classic.. Ill think about it :)

Thanks for the usefull tips!!

@ jalonso..
Iv viewed your gallery... but there is a difference between me and you: you are the grand master, im just a noob that just started isometric pixel art..
urs is just another style than mine... Ok ill experiment with it :)

EDIT
I did just see I actually did experiment a bit, those windows where totally new for me.. (you can check some old windows on my devART: lollige.deviantart.com)


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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 1:45pm
Hoi Lollige,

Ok, I checked out your ISO build on deviantart and checked the
youtube.

You have enough patience to do whatever you want!

If you want to do crazy, I say go for it!

Do what you want to do!

There still remains enough that you NEED to do!

Nice to see Dutch people here as well


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Quote Feron Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 3:52pm
I think you should create your own plant instead of borrowing the default map one.
hmmmm.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2007 at 11:44pm
@M.E.
I have never worked on 1 piece of art longer than 3 hours total I think... that vid was done in just 1,5 hours.. and there where alot of things I should have done bether 
Nice to meet you too

@ feron:
I had done a plant and the sidewalk myself, but it looked very crappy, and now its just no part of the building


Ok guys, right now im going to work on it...
(both this building, and that illegal car dealer I posted earlyer, where post here when I thought they where finished)


EDIT:
here is a blackless image
It looks pretty cool



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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 3:56am
edited it a bit more, removed more dark lines...


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:24am
Originally posted by Lollige

... but there is a difference between me and you...


I was not telling you what to do. I was merely suggesting and using my pixels as an example.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:29am
I wasnt really able to use it as an example I think, because overall your work is much more detailed (I cant find any flat walls...) but I removed the lines and its alot bether now, THANK YOU 
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 2:08pm
OK I tried to do the people shades, but they where very hard to do and where very unnatural.. I removed them again.. but does any1 has tips (or a template, not to copy but just to watch) for that?
Also I tried to make more fuzz (on the house on top, and the hedge) but that did not turn out that good..
All improvements and tips are welcome!!!

Btw I didnt finished the hedge yet, because its not the right way I think.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 2:43pm
more textures? I dunno, Jalonso's the master at the iso. I would trust his advice.
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 2:57pm
Your basic iso highlight scheme seems a bit off. I made a little image to show how you could fix that (the border of the windows is the most off) and how you could apply antialiasing to make it smoother (some say this is a bad practice in iso, others swear by it). You also should add a highlight under the little black line separating the roof of the blue and the blue or give it a shadow to show overhang. In my edit I took it for a mere division and went for the highlight to show it as a little notch in the building.
 

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:54pm
monkey, that's awesome, place copy in 'tutorial' page.

Even 'betterest' is to highlight horizontal edges with the highlight shade and use the color of tops to highlight the vertical edges.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 08 March 2007 at 11:44pm
ah okey, thanks for the tips :)
im gonna AA this soon, thats gonna be the first piece where I do that :)
but I again have a question:
You did highlight a line on "good" thats not a corner or something, its just a line under a roof.. Why is it highlighted??
This line:

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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 09 March 2007 at 1:09pm

I said I mistook it for a notch in the building; I forgot to look back at the whole picture when I was fixing up that bit. You could emphasize its sticking-out by giving it a shadow on the right side; my edit is a bit messed up there.

Good luck with the antialiasing and keep working on this piece. There's no better way to improve your pixel skills than to use them. :)

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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 10 March 2007 at 1:44am
I dont see much difference, and the difference I see is not that good.. Seems im not the bast at it..


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Quote onyx Replybullet Posted: 18 May 2007 at 9:39pm
i think you may need to put in some shadows...
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 18 May 2007 at 10:29pm
Originally posted by onyx

i think you may need to put in some shadows...

omg tread bumper...

if I put in shadows, I cant finish them, its going to be placed in IsoCity, and there it will stop by the roads then..
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 6:35am
lol lollige i think you got a fan xDDDDDDDDDD
 
ammm fix the doors.. add texture to them maybe..?
may the pixels be with you..
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 7:23am
Who's the fan?? Plz leave this topic alone! Its submitted to isocity, rejected at PJ, and for me its finished!
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 8:31am
Last words on Dead thread.
I don't see why it was not allowed into the gallery other than the plant is KFejer's and not yours. Actually, I would have sent it back for that :/
I like it otherwise.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 9:11am
Originally posted by jalonso

Last words on Dead thread.
I don't see why it was not allowed into the gallery other than the plant is KFejer's and not yours. Actually, I would have sent it back for that :/
I like it otherwise.

Entellitis told me I did not use enaugh of the C&C gave here in this topic
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 6:51pm
really?  where did i say that?
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2007 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by Ensellitis

really?  where did i say that?

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