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A.B. Lazer
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Topic: WIP Low-res girl
Posted: 02 August 2007 at 6:42pm

1. Is this picture any good?
1a. For instance - can you recognise what is drawn?
2. How to make picture better?

Edited by A.B. Lazer - 02 August 2007 at 6:43pm

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EyeCraft
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Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:09pm

It's a good start, but it needs alot more contrast. I also think her left foot (the one nearest us) should be flat on the ground.

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Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:35pm

the leg that's raised is also too long.

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Metaru
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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 6:49am

just don't go crtazy with AA. and try to make the far leg a bit darker.

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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 8:56am

What's with people against AA? It's integral to pixel art. Like, if you mean don't go crazy as in dont over-AA, then thats fine. But you must AA to some degree. Also, what's with people always suggesting the darkness depth technique? Not trying to lash out, but I personally don't think that's the be and end all solution to depth. I think just trying shading to illustrate form is fine.

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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:01am

its already AA'ed, but people in their early stages tend to believe that everything must be AA'ed. or dithered, wich results in overdone things. that's all.

about darkness depth, in this case and for such small sprite, is to make a contrast. otherwise, it would appear that the leg is comming out from her ass.

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A.B. Lazer
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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 12:59pm

Thanx for participation! Here's my progress.

>EyeCraft.

Seems that to make it more contrast, more readable is the main obstacle - there's risk to make leg look unnaturally with wrong skin color. Or not to make right leg grow into left - which is still hard for me.

Now I made it mainly playing on contrast of brightest and darkest parts.

And I left left leg in it's position becaurse it's not complitely static pose.

>leel
the leg that's raised is also too long

I think I fixed it by making right leg as long instead (or I think that it as long taking perspective in account - if it looks wrong, please tell about it), on lowest pic I rotated her and to me proportions don't look unnatural.

>Metaru
>just don't go crazy with AA.

Is it too AA'sed in original image? Leg on this side -> /\_/| looks like all pits when it not used. Under the right leg is another talk, maybe. Or you're about shading?

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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 1:50pm

nopes, just don't add more AA for now.

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Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:43pm

Shading, contrast.

In regards to Metaru's comments on "no more AA", don't think of AA quantitatively. Think of it qualitatively. Ie, it's not about "more or less" AA, its about using it in the right places. The goal of AA is to imply detail between pixels. People mainly use it for smoothening out lines so they aren't so jagged, but AA doesn't stop there.

So yeah, check out my edits, and try to see where I used AA. Note that I didn't screen the whole image in a blur of noisy pixels, you're going to lose precision doing that. Amongst other problems.

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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Topic: WIP Low-res girl Posted: 02 August 2007 at 6:42pm
	1. Is this picture any good? 1a. For instance - can you recognise what is drawn? 2. How to make picture better? Edited by A.B. Lazer - 02 August 2007 at 6:43pm
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EyeCraft Commander Joined: 07 July 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 425	Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:09pm
	It's a good start, but it needs alot more contrast. I also think her left foot (the one nearest us) should be flat on the ground.
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leel Commander Joined: 29 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3001	Posted: 02 August 2007 at 8:35pm
	the leg that's raised is also too long.
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Metaru Commander Joined: 03 February 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3305	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 6:49am
	just don't go crtazy with AA. and try to make the far leg a bit darker.
	I ate leel's babies
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EyeCraft Commander Joined: 07 July 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 425	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 8:56am
	What's with people against AA? It's integral to pixel art. Like, if you mean don't go crazy as in dont over-AA, then thats fine. But you must AA to some degree. Also, what's with people always suggesting the darkness depth technique? Not trying to lash out, but I personally don't think that's the be and end all solution to depth. I think just trying shading to illustrate form is fine.
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Metaru Commander Joined: 03 February 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3305	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:01am
	its already AA'ed, but people in their early stages tend to believe that everything must be AA'ed. or dithered, wich results in overdone things. that's all. about darkness depth, in this case and for such small sprite, is to make a contrast. otherwise, it would appear that the leg is comming out from her ass.
	I ate leel's babies
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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 12:59pm
	Thanx for participation! Here's my progress. >EyeCraft. Seems that to make it more contrast, more readable is the main obstacle - there's risk to make leg look unnaturally with wrong skin color. Or not to make right leg grow into left - which is still hard for me. Now I made it mainly playing on contrast of brightest and darkest parts. And I left left leg in it's position becaurse it's not complitely static pose. >leel the leg that's raised is also too long I think I fixed it by making right leg as long instead (or I think that it as long taking perspective in account - if it looks wrong, please tell about it), on lowest pic I rotated her and to me proportions don't look unnatural. >Metaru >just don't go crazy with AA. Is it too AA'sed in original image? Leg on this side -> /\_/\| looks like all pits when it not used. Under the right leg is another talk, maybe. Or you're about shading?
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Metaru Commander Joined: 03 February 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3305	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 1:50pm
	nopes, just don't add more AA for now.
	I ate leel's babies
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EyeCraft Commander Joined: 07 July 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 425	Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:43pm
	Shading, contrast. In regards to Metaru's comments on "no more AA", don't think of AA quantitatively. Think of it qualitatively. Ie, it's not about "more or less" AA, its about using it in the right places. The goal of AA is to imply detail between pixels. People mainly use it for smoothening out lines so they aren't so jagged, but AA doesn't stop there. So yeah, check out my edits, and try to see where I used AA. Note that I didn't screen the whole image in a blur of noisy pixels, you're going to lose precision doing that. Amongst other problems.
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