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    Posted: 26 July 2005 at 1:46pm
Quite frankly, the numbers are random. I was sort of throwing in random pixels and came up with them...

Okay...err...this is about 12 hours of work, total, I'd say...based on my own profile/face and inspired by giger and lobot. ;) I'm really happy with how it came out, but I feel like there are a few empty places. I could let it sit, but if you have a fantastic idea, out with it!



edit: Looking at it against white...I should AA the cords against her skin [will do] and also they look a bit odd...like they're three colors. Which is alright, since often these things ARE like that, but I'm not sure how else I could shade them. (;


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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 2:42pm
can we see the inspiration pic?

she lacks collarbones and the neck appears to attach to the body in the way that a tube of clay attaches to a block of clay if you just smoosh it on: that is to say it doesn't look cohesive or "real." I'm also not sure why you chose to put a shadow around the bottom of the neck, makes it appear as though it's a separate piece when I think you should be aiming for a smooth transition from body-to-neck as you have ever so nicely from neck-to-head.

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http://www.portrait-artist.org/life-drawing-faces-pics/ana tomy-neck-plain.jpg

see how the neck comes down as the trap. muscles go up? see how it's all, actually, rather angular where the neck meets the body?

here's another link, it's not the exact right position either but it's a good basis for you to see where collarbones and the lines of the neck are.
http://www.bartleby.com/107/Images/small/image1194.jpg

another thing I noticed was the lack of shading on the backside of the head/shoulders but the substantial shading on her face and "accessories" (for lack of a better word). It's inconsistant, although it might be right with the lightsourcing, I'm not sure.
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 3:04pm

Sorry, no fantastic idea. I'm all tapped out.

Absolutely beautiful.  Pixelling white is a great challenge and you pull it off beautifully. Love the expression on her face and the nice blend of the techno cords around her eyes and mouth.

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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by Saiklor

can we see the inspiration pic?


Er...no..since there isn't one. O.o I only used the concept of Giger combining flesh and metal, though mine's way different [read: less dark] than his...and the idea of something wrapping around the back of the head, which George Lucas doesn't have copyright on and definitely wasn't the first to come up with. (;

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she lacks collarbones and the neck appears to attach to the body in the way that a tube of clay attaches to a block of clay if you just smoosh it on: that is to say it doesn't look cohesive or "real." I'm also not sure why you chose to put a shadow around the bottom of the neck, makes it appear as though it's a separate piece when I think you should be aiming for a smooth transition from body-to-neck as you have ever so nicely from neck-to-head.


Well, I don't know. I'm a bit overweight, and am, in fact, smooth like this around the neck...my collarbones don't show, it's all soft curves without any jutting angles. I like that. But the neck is a bit odd on its left side...I might smooth that out some.

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another thing I noticed was the lack of shading on the backside of the head/shoulders but the substantial shading on her face and "accessories" (for lack of a better word). It's inconsistant, although it might be right with the lightsourcing, I'm not sure.


I really don't know what you're talking about, here...
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 7:24pm

When I looked at the head... wow, that's quite the nuts peice. Err.. that sentence was completely wrong.

Anyways, there's millions of effort in the head, face, and "accessories", but the shoulders are kinda lacking in detail, effort, and perspective. I think.

So I propose you cut the shoulders out, find a fun and mechanical way to cut off the neck (Metal brace with spine below/metallically redone spine) and leave the head floating in a vat. Like this:

And then throw in either a bobbing animation or a blink, cause a blink would be just creepy.

"I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business."
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 7:38pm
Oooo!! I think that ^^ Would be a smashing idea for this already awesome peice. :)
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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 7:39pm
yeah, I don't really want to go "silly" with this. I've sort of fallen in love with it and don't want to ruin it.

And...I've considered adding to the shoulders, but I kind of like how smooth and simple they are...

edit: err. yes, I did make some changes. seems I forgot to post them.


older --> newer


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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 11:20pm

I don't really follow how that would be silly, but do what you want, cause its workin well thus far!

(Oh, maybe the fact that Conan O'brien is hilarious suggested silly...)

-edit- OOH! it IS briEn, I was unsure about that, but ryan hath saved me. Well... kinda.



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"I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business."
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Quote ryan-gfx Replybullet Posted: 26 July 2005 at 11:31pm
Conan O'brien's head in a jar... oh god.. it just doesn't get much funnier than that

Conan: Oh yeah? Well I have something YOU'LL NEVER HAVE! A SOUL!
Bender: meh.. oh well
Conan: AND FRECKLES!
Bender: *whimpering* WAAAAAAH!!!

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Quote Monstara Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 5:24am
Yeah, I've seen that episode, it's hilarious.
I'm not sure that'd be silly, it might be creepy, actually.
But I'd also appreciate collarbones...
Otherwise it's stunning.
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Quote Claudster Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 11:32am
I think it looks lovely blue!  The only thing I would add is something to the shoulders, they look really plain right now. 
Im on vaction...woohoo....from the 9th-16th.

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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2005 at 12:51pm
For everyone who thought the shoulders were a bit dull...I played around some.


old --> new

edit: err...for the record, I really like the scalloped wires, but don't know about the implant closer to us. :oP I'm also not entirely convinced that I don't prefer the simple bare shoulders...it looks less cluttered.


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Quote Monstara Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:09am
yah, the implant on her left shoulder is not convincing as it is...
first of all it's got no perspective.
second, I think a bare shoulder is ok, but I still insist on having collarbones lol :D
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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 5:32am
Still not giving her collar bones. (; because I think they're ugly, first of all, and because mine DON'T SHOW second of all...and I used myself as a reference. Believe me, after all the comments I went and checked. Nothing but smooth skin.

I don't think I'm changing anything else, actually...::shrugs.:: I'm happy with how she came out, and that's the important thing.


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Quote Monstara Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 5:40am
Of course, the picture is good..
take a photo of our neck and show it - prove ur point :P
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Quote Saiklor Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 8:12am
or show someone else if you're not comfortable posting an image of yourself :)
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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 9:17am
Originally posted by Saiklor

or show someone else if you're not comfortable posting an image of yourself :)


You kidding? I love posting pictures of myself. :oP However, I don't really want to - and don't really have to. ::shrugs.:: If you don't like the way she looks with no collar bones, don't look. (;
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Quote emiko Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:30am
LMAO, it's true folks, in her pictures at Pixel Inc it looks like she collar bone-less xD; Take it or leave it, you all.

I love your work here. For c/c...

The metal plate on her skull, on the (our) left side looks like it could be smoothed out a bit more.

The shoulders... the little cicular thing look a bit TOO circular >.> Er... the perspective of the shoulders make me think that the plug should also be facing towards the right as well... Could I make any less sense? *needs to work on her english* Basically, I think it'd look better if it were at a bit of an angle.

The green wires bother me a bit as well. THey look rather weak compared to the rest of the piece. Perhaps having them connect from our view to the back of the shoulder... example:



Or something likewise :)

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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:13am
Originally posted by emiko



The shoulders... the little cicular thing look a bit TOO circular >.> Er... the perspective of the shoulders make me think that the plug should also be facing towards the right as well... Could I make any less sense? *needs to work on her english* Basically, I think it'd look better if it were at a bit of an angle.

The green wires bother me a bit as well. THey look rather weak compared to the rest of the piece. Perhaps having them connect from our view to the back of the shoulder... example:



Or something likewise :)

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I decided to get rid of the shoulder stuff entirely. I wanted her bare, it was everyone else who wanted something there. ;)

I decided this is the finished version:



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Quote Johnny Vandal Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2005 at 6:56pm
i love it.......and i thin kthe smoothness of the sholders was def. the way to go. just brings a bit of elegance to such a techy piece. great use of whites and grey tones. and the hair is perfect :)
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Quote Monstara Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 12:59am
aight, I like it *very* much this way, honestly.
If you don't feel like adding in anything else - that's fine.
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:29am

Originally posted by Monstara

aight, I like it *very* much this way, honestly.
If you don't feel like adding in anything else - that's fine.

sounds like a bit of reverse psychology

Personally, less is more especially in this case. You could easily ruin a good thing by overdoing it. This piece rocks my socks off

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Quote blue Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:28am
sorry all the old images died - I'm cleaning out my server and deleted everything. But the finished piece is there. (:

thank you for comments, even if I didn't use them. (;
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