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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Topic: Sherman Tank
    Posted: 07 August 2005 at 11:59am
Decided to try out some different colouring techniques, here's where it brought me so far:

I take no credit for the lineart.
Where I mainly need help is the tracks. Especially the bottom of the right track. I'll also be thankful for some other pointers though!
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Quote PandaPlanet Replybullet Posted: 07 August 2005 at 12:27pm
What? No penquin?

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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 07 August 2005 at 12:29pm
The penguin is inside.
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Quote EyeCraft Replybullet Posted: 07 August 2005 at 11:22pm
Cool! The way youve dithered in chunks like that reminds me of Quake 1 . First off, where's your lightsource, it looks like its from above and infront of the tank, but the left of the front face is darkened. The lines on your tracks aren't in perspective with the rest of the vehicle, they are in effect on the same plane as the line above the front star on the tank, see?
I think the problem is the track has no side edges on it. Tank tracks arent flat, well, what is? There are like rectangular prisms a little bit, if you have side faces on your tracks I think you will be able to more easily follow the curve.
Only other thing I would say is some of the lines are a little harsh, use either a closer tone to the fill colours, or AA it a bit.
Oh and also, looking at the reference pic, the bottom of your tank doesnt match the actual bottom, the one in there reference is lifted off the ground more, like a car.


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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 5:10am
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Originally posted by EyeCraft

First off, where's your lightsource, it looks like its from above and infront of the tank, but the left of the front face is darkened.

Fixed.
Originally posted by EyeCraft

The lines on your tracks aren't in perspective with the rest of the vehicle.

Fixed too.
Originally posted by EyeCraft

Only other thing I would say is some of the lines are a little harsh, use either a closer tone to the fill colours, or AA it a bit.

I'm not worrying about that one too much, the rest of the scene will be in the final piece too, so the lines won't appear as harsh as they do now.
Originally posted by EyeCraft

Oh and also, looking at the reference pic, the bottom of your tank doesnt match the actual bottom, the one in there reference is lifted off the ground more, like a car.

You mean the dark grey area next to the tracks?


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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 8:14am

This gives me tons of inspiration Brian. This is such a great piece and it definately have "STYLE" written all over it even.

The only crit I would have is the on the left (our left) track it seems to kind of stick out. I think that is because you just traced it along with the wheel (not sure what the wheels are called on a tank ). So I think you can either draw in the other wheel and you won't have to do much with the outside lineart or you can just forget about that other wheel sticking out and just fix the track on our left.

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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 8:20am
*Fix*

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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 9:20am

Since a picture says 1000 words, I think two pictures will describe it better.

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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:15am

2000 words or not, I don't think I nailed it this this time. 3½ hours of sleep per day just won't do for me. Thanks for your help anyhow.
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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:19am
Yeah lol. But what I meant was really just to keep the left (our left) track consistent. It looks like it gets fatter to that point that I showed on the edit, and the right (our right) track doesn't seem to do that so it's not a view issue, just in the matter of following the scale.
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Quote Garage Inc. Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:21am
The top of the right tread, (our left), needs to be more rounded. Right now, it is to pointy. If you want, I can post a small edit I made that shows how to make that looks better.
For every second spent wondering if you can do something, you could spend 2 seconds doing it.
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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:30am
Lol, that's exactly what I've critiqued on. I think it's because when he did the lineart, in the picture it's not as clear, but if you look closely - you can see that it's that wheel pointing out, but it blurs too much with the actual track so it looks as one whole but actually it's two separate things.
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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:33am

You mean that pointy wheel? Now that you mention it, it does look like it's pointing outwards.
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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 11:50am
Yeah, since it's blurry on that other refrence you showed it looks as if it is part of the track. I think now you understood those 2000 words
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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:02pm

Hopefully I got it this time... I'm not fully awake yet though.
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Quote Zoomrix Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2005 at 10:18pm
Yup looks very good, Brian. Good job!
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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 3:19am

Completing this will probably take a while, but I'm sure it'll be worth it!
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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 3:25am
Very nice work so far :)
The tank on the back looks a kinda weird though... the shape of it looks too smooth.
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 3:55am
The tip of the gun needs to be turned about maybe 2 or 3 degrees to the left for the correct perspective.

I think you've got a good thing going here. Big pixel peices are tough to me. Kudos for attempting it. *thumbs up*
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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 8:13am
Thank you both for your kind comments. 

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Quote Rifts Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2005 at 11:54am
some nice work here, the shadeing stlye is nice, not much tocrit on as i
guess u r still working on the tank tracks ect ect, one thing that bugs
me is the end of the main tanks gun seems tilted, if you look at the
source pic the square is strait
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 15 August 2005 at 10:15am
THis is coming along nicely Brian. Your initial tank looks great.  Do you plan on having little penguin soldiers milling around?
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Quote randomblink Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2005 at 8:00am
Wow... This is a very nicely done tank...
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Quote randomblink Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2005 at 9:31am

chuckle...

Unless I get bonus points for posting alot, I just thought it would be nice to go through the archives and see some old work... Then I started seeing stuff that had an interesting aspect or design or lineart and thought it wouldn't hurt to post a quick note on them...

 

Sorry, I wasn't thinking that it would revive old threads...

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Quote inkspot Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:59am

The tank in the back is not the same thatnk that is on front. is it ment so?

 

Tank on the front has 3 different body blocks, tank on the back has 2.

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Quote Brian the Great Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2005 at 11:02am
Erm, I'm not making any changes on this one anymore. It's been in the 'old, neglected and forgotten WIPs' directory for a while now.
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