I sort of painted over a drawing I scanned for that.

source

is this okay or what?

New edit.  Did a mild color swap and added some textures and a frame. 

Edited by AdamPlays - 19 June 2007 at 4:09pm

Your link didn't work (for me), but that a cool pic

that looks really cool and unique, I don't think i've seen much like it, at least in pixel art.

And yeah, damn filters. I suppose I should've tested the link first, though :/

Blue?  Brown?  Or keep searching for colors? 

I think it looks way better than before. Very cool style for the flame and the scales. Maybe try experimenting with different lighter colours other than white?

there´s something in the rules about oeaki

..Oeaki is commonly done in MS Paint... :/

It's spelled OEKAKI, guys.

Oekaki is like pixel art, but it isn't the same because when you draw in Oekaki style, you're more like scribbling or sketching than placing the pixels individually. It's not the program you use that makes it Oekaki, it's the style and approach. Stylistically, this is more a drawn image than pixel placed, less detailed, and larger.

This should explain it better for you. Make sure to look at the difference between Oekaki and Pixel Art.

Your piece looks like Oekaki, so I don't think it'll be accepted.

Edited by Aleiav - 20 June 2007 at 9:51am

That's exactly what I was referring to before about FrankieSmilieShow's piece.

Personally I'd like to see more of a leaning towards pieces like the Kraken, where each individual is actually placed with love and care for a nice effect instead of relying on large canvas sizes to fit lots of detail and bring a piece together.

I don't mean to discredit Frankie's style or anyone else who submits a large "sketchy" piece, but I think it'd be sad to see this as a competition of who can draw the best as opposed to who can pixel the best.

Tuti's piece doesn't look like oekaki, but like its been traced from a vector drawing. Especially the wings part. It looks at worst like a color-reduced vector drawing (I mean come on, you can almost see where the vector vertex points are), at best a piece that was drawn using the curve, bezier, pen and line tools exclusively.
I might be wrong though: Any two-color work thats done in a very clean style can look like its been done in vector... Some dithering here would probably help a lot, but its not like we can FORCE someone to apply dithering.

About the questions about the pixel art authenticity of my work:
I protest! My work is done pixel-by-pixel. I honestly don't know what in it makes you think its free handed or even sketched. There is absolutely nothing in my piece that looks even remotely like its been freehanded in paint, except the unfinished parts (which are pretty much all gone now).

If "chaotic" dithering, or the inverse, the absence of dithering, are to be considered impure non-pixel art, it means we are stigmatizing STYLES as NPA, thus NPA becomes an arbitrary label we can no longer rely on.

Where my piece is at now...


Whats left to do is the clouds and the windmills' pales. Got a hard time drawing clouds, as usual. Trying to find 2-color drawings of clouds as examples, but cant find any... (the clouds in the sky right now are, like, my fourth attempt at drawing them, and they look just wrooong! what ive been TRYING to do here is to darken the sky a bit using noise-like dots, and "draw" the clouds by breaking the noise with white blots, and possibly further darkening the lower and upper edges of these clouds. It still looks very wrong, but im getting there... I think)


Edited by FrankieSmileShow - 20 June 2007 at 11:35am

Anyone c&c for this piece (colour edits will follow later) and ideas for a bg?

Varock: You could try a honeycomb? Be quite difficult with 2 colours, but I'd be impressed! 

wtf? oekaki is one program according to wiki in Spanish :O

emmm... I made my pixel art pixel by pixel, and single because I did not use dithering she does not mean that it is not a pixel art.

Yes, don't change the background!  Good as is. 

In all honesty, the mountains look like they could easily be done in paint with a relatively smooth hand at maybe 2x zoom. If you take a look at the mountains and the scratchy style I feel it's hard to argue that each individual pixel contributes to the piece in a way that each pixel is a necessity for the piece to exist as a whole. If you take a look at the kraken on the first page there's a significant difference in the pixel placement there and the more sketchy style. Each pixel is significant to the whole piece, whereas in the much larger piece it is individual groups of pixels that contribute to the entire piece. In that way not each individual is placed with love and care so much as each individual section is created with the whole picture in mind. However those individual sections could easily be slightly difference individual pixel-wise.

That is not to say that there are certain parts that are clearly pixel art and it would be pointless to do without individual placement, windmills for example.

And honestly, I think there are those who would agree that if someone suggested one would make a pixelart 800by600 they would think it ridiculous. Pixel art has traditionally not been meant for such sizes that other art forms would easily fit for because pixel art has been defined as placing each individual pixel as each pixel has an important to the overall piece. That's why it's so hard for me to accept this style as a style of pixel art when it contradicts the very definition of pixel as has been preached by the major pixel leaders on this forum and pixelation.

Once again, I don't have some personal vendetta (and i'm not accusing you of saying I am, but I realize I may come off harsh) against you but I feel that this 'sketchy' style contradicts at least the definition i've been taught of pixel art. I don't think in any real pixel art piece you should be able to drag the mouse around and create a similar effect. If this were a multi-color challenge I feel the same 'sketchy' style would make my point more clear. I just don't see any real pixel art as being something that can be created with a tablet.


This is my personal opinion, and since the definition of pixel art has been disputed before I think it's fair to express my opinion as to where style ends and a different medium begins.


Either way, I like the piece a lot. Even though I disagree with what it would be classified under doesn't mean I don't respect it and think it's well done. Good job to you sir.

yes! i saved the wip!

"uploading xD"

sh*t! my mom delete my folder T_T! Noo! hours and hours of work T_T


Edited by tuti - 20 June 2007 at 6:46pm

Spanish:
obviamente, pero si frankie´s usa un estilo, yo uso otro, son dos cosas distintas, en fin yo hice mi pixel art tratando de mejorar pixel por pixel y agregando calidad de detalles al rostro y demás, para que sean diferentes uno al otro, y en fin, yo use el mismo método de pixelar que casi todos. por lo menos no utilicé el método ilegitimo de Metaru


Translating by google xD:
obvious, but frankie´s uses a style, I I use another one, are two different things, in aim I I did my pixel art trying to improve pixel by pixel and adding quality of details to the face and others, so that they are different one from the other, and in short, I use he himself method of pixelar that almost all. at least I did not use the thief method of Metaru

Bye

I actually believe that Frankie's is less precise (in terms of pixel technique) than Tuti's. For the record, oekaki does use dithering. Often.
Ultimately it's up to the mods.

ok i gotta change 1 more thing. My father told me bees have in fact got 4 wings, not 2. So, i might change that and ill submit it

Edit:

Submitted


Edited by Varock Shade - 21 June 2007 at 2:48am

Added some eye candy..

DJD, Id say Frankie's piece is just pixel art. Looking at his work tells me he just make your art this way. This and This piece are not oekaki, it's a style. It looks almost chaotic sometimes, but then again it also looks too neat to be just a sketch or an oekaki piece. It more looks like the detail and sketchy-ish looks have been added later.



It might be more difficult to make a sketch for a piece with the mouse, but it doesn't say it isn't pixeling. This piece, and especially the WIP image shows that a sketch that's not made in paint can just as well form a pixel art piece. also, the tablet (as far as i know) only gives a major advantage for the sketch, not for the placement of the individual pixels (for the colouring for example)


Edited by Varock Shade - 21 June 2007 at 7:27am

Horrible
Already sent to the gallery, since I'm not so encouraged to edit her... I hate this "style" (if I can call it so, because my work is done with "how-it-comes-out-it-is" style)

By the way, it's it...