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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 6:09pm
New rocks. Better?

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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 6:26pm
Much better. 
"pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso   
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 9:02pm
i dunno, i'm iffy on the new rocks.... They're too fluffy?

Could you try to take it more in this direction?

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 9:20pm
Jalonso, you need to add texture for it to really feel like rocks. At the moment they give a very plastic vibe. Although they are getting better, especially the ones with the moss or w/e it was on.

Here's a reference for roundish rocks: LINK.
Haha but seriously the texture on those is actually pretty good. The sort of cracks etc will help i think, so it seems less like a blanket has been placed upon some rocks.

I also like this reference but i dunno if it's really the same kinda rocks you're going for.

Meh, hope that helped a little.


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 9:28pm
I am drawing these kind of rocks as seen in the California deserts.
They are super smooth and the best to Mountain Bike on.


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Quote skamocore Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 10:54pm
I agree with the other smooth rock haterz, I think for the benefit of the piece you should try going for a more rocky type of rock, something more jagged and harsh. They are a huge improvement over what they were before, but the type of rocks you've chosen don't seem to really translate that well to pixels and they really aren't that readable as rocks.

I would chose readability over realism. It's better for them to be instantly recognisable as rocks than to perfectly stay true to the type of rocks in the reference you posted.

Just had to had my 2 cents... >_> I know it's been said before but I think the rocks are really holding this piece back
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 11:01pm
they're WAY too smooth. more like the rocks you see in the canyons of the Roadrunner show. the rocks you pretend to emulate have a grainy texture and their shape has been molded by the wind in one direction.. in my opinion, these two cliffs you have there are just eating a lot of details and are not really adding but sustracting elements form the piece. in the same way you have to re-texture you pirete ship, i do suggest to takea asecond look and redo these mountains. they do need a better work on their desing/structure.

also, forgot to add that since yours is goign to be placed near the beach, might be a good idea to integrate the "wind" that comes from the sea in the desing /erosion of these rocks.


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Quote flaber Replybullet Posted: 03 October 2008 at 11:19pm
Seems like you are starting to figure out better texturing techniques.
There are a few cases that you have incorrect textures added, therefore not expressing the proper material. Such as the glass houses.
A bit of lighting issues.
Overall though it seems like you are figureing it all out as you go. Its coming along well, and Im beginning to like what I see.

Im going to let you still go for abit, before I make any edit or big long message. Also, I just simply dont have the time, due to school currently.
Continue with it. Progress is great.

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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 5:12am
The rocks are certanley better,but i have to agree with the above.
They just seem far too smooth and spherical,rather than sharp an angular,which is how i think rocks be.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 9:03am
I KNOW!

DITHER!
Doooo itttttt.

And a problem with your current rocks may be that the 'cuts' look indented rather than a seperation between rocks. They (the dark lines) should follow on around the rock, even if it's very subtle.
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Quote JC Denton Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 10:18am
Originally posted by jalonso

New rocks. Better?


The rocks are good I guess, but I still think the moss should be more green like in your picture Jalonso
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 11:48am
Are these rocks made out of water? Smooth and plastic is indeed a big difference. I don't like the rocks that much you showed on the picture, but even if you are going for those your cracks are still not really on the right places and this thing screams for (dithering) texture.
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Quote chess Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 12:35pm
while watching the zeppelin again i think the car is too dark. i might be wrong but i think it would look better if you make it much brighter.

but -> imo


i luv ya for that piece :-*
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 6:35pm
Could use more THUNDER AN LIGHTNIN SCRATCHYPIXELS!

imo.






Wakka wakka

PS I added a yellow-green because I didn't feel like scouring through your palette and shifting things around to make it work. And that shadow from that rock is just a laugh. Try to avoid looking at it, it's likely to cause retina damage.


Edited by Saboteur - 04 October 2008 at 6:36pm
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Quote flaber Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Larwick

I KNOW!

DITHER!
Doooo itttttt.

And a problem with your current rocks may be that the 'cuts' look indented rather than a seperation between rocks. They (the dark lines) should follow on around the rock, even if it's very subtle.


dont dither.
dither is not good. Well, atleast.. dont do 50% dither.
Dont:
Doooo itttttt.

but you know what i would say and suggest. so i wont go into detail here right now.
UNLESS I SEE the dreaded 50% dither.

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Quote DeProgrammer Replybullet Posted: 04 October 2008 at 10:56pm
Yeah, dithering would work well on those rocks.
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Quote Chace Replybullet Posted: 05 October 2008 at 7:43am
Amazing, Jalonso. 
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 05 October 2008 at 1:52pm
Amazing, Saboteur.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 05 October 2008 at 8:46pm
I am trying other ways to make other kind of rocks, but my mind's eye just sees smooth rocks still. Update soon. Thanks all, especially Sab who always speaks the truth :)
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Quote Fatalis67 Replybullet Posted: 06 October 2008 at 4:51pm
This is without doubt one of the most amazing pixel art pieces I have ever seen. Amazing work Jalonso! This has actually inspired a friend of mine to start pixel art after I showed him. Keep it up!
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Quote zlajonja Replybullet Posted: 10 October 2008 at 10:36am
Hows it going Jal, you finished it off? :)) Can't wait to see the finale of the piece. :)
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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 10 October 2008 at 11:41am
Seconded,im awaiting the final version,if you've got that far with it that is.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 10 October 2008 at 8:27pm
I am trying all kinds of different things and will post update soon, I hope.
Something is very wrong, and I suspect my colors are a mess.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 11 October 2008 at 3:05pm

After much experimenting :/
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Quote Sig~ Replybullet Posted: 11 October 2008 at 3:22pm
Really great Jalonso, Shall I can do this
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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 11 October 2008 at 4:28pm
Hoyy shabugabug fundalluts!

Them rocks are rocks and rocks! ...uhhh... Very well done!

Where'd the moss go, though?
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 11 October 2008 at 5:18pm
Rocks = EPIC WIN.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote skeddles Replybullet Posted: 11 October 2008 at 6:06pm
Originally posted by jalonso


After much experimenting :/
Amazingly better.


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Quote Damian Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 1:09am
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Quote JC Denton Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 2:36am
Originally posted by skeddles


Originally posted by jalonso

After much experimenting :/
Amazingly better.

Can't say much more.
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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 5:35am
Big improvement,it looks far better than anything before it.
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Quote minipuck Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 5:40am
not just alot better, just, amazingly awesome, if you continue like this, this piece will be my new favorite iso piece on the site, now it's in the middle of nowhere of fool.

i'd also like to see what everything looks like right now.
the whole picture.


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Quote Daxter Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 5:57am
Better oO
But the bush is not very good ^^'
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Quote Christoballs Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 9:57am
All I can say is that it rocks. Haha.
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Quote Fatalis67 Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 10:00am
Originally posted by Christoballs

All I can say is that it rocks. Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZi7tmWhR4&feature=related
Enough said.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 3:53pm
The glass house, the zepellin and the grass hedges will be remade...

...after I get done with these dammed rocks.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 12 October 2008 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by jalonso


After much experimenting :/


Holy sh*t Jal, a glorious improvement!
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Quote Christoballs Replybullet Posted: 13 October 2008 at 11:21am
Originally posted by Fatalis67

Originally posted by Christoballs

All I can say is that it rocks. Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZi7tmWhR4&feature=related
Enough said.

Heh thanks ;D
I'm looking forward to seeing all those rocks redone!
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 13 October 2008 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by jalonso

The glass house, the zepellin and the grass hedges will be remade...

...after I get done with these dammed rocks.

Thank you!I hated thoose!
And the new rocks are mindblowing!
Overall awesomness as usual
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 10:29am

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Quote Ricki Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 11:29am
Totally breathtaking, Jal. It really looks like a rock, real rock. I think you reserved a place in Hall of Fame long time ago with this piece ... ..I love this 
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Quote chess Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 12:16pm
i love your rock update. hope it`s finished soon.
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Quote Daxter Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 1:05pm
The rock is very cool but I think the motif repeats itself too =)
[sorry for my bad english xD]
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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 1:10pm
Ah yea,thats sir is looking pretty ruddy awsome.You've just improved the piece tenfold.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 14 October 2008 at 1:23pm
I understand that these were a lot of killing work, but to be honest:

I like the rocks, really. But just in the amount you had them in the first image. Its a bit too much now I think.

What I like way more, and what looks much more calming, and less overdone are the higher dark rocks. They are squared, here and there a good crack, but on the rest, its a bit too much of it I think...

If I am the only one with this opinion you should keep the rocks. Otherwise rethink them. It feels really too filled up for me.
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Quote Opacus Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:46am
f**k I need to come around here more often.
That sh*t is badass!


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Quote skamocore Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:18am
You really nailed those rocks...now you need to get the rest of the image to the same quality level.
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Quote fawful Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:46am
This is looking incredibly awsome i have to say,the new rocks have given it a more realistic look that just wouldnt work with the other ones. 
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Quote Damian Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2008 at 1:04pm
the first thing that pops to mind is"get a life!", but I contradict myself when I say that I do the same type of thing(not as good though) and spend allot of time being a perfectionist, but this is awesome and I cant wait until your in the hall of fame!

until my next random post on this topic :P
Good luck(oh and I don't actually mean the first sentence....I do love pixel art)
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