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Ensellitis
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 Topic: PJv3 discussion Posted: 10 August 2006 at 9:50am |
a newer, better, faster, and even prettier version of PixelJoint is upon us. we have the technology. this topic is dedicated to the new version. first of all, let me explain what will be happening: i will be redesigning all of the PJ pages. they will be going all standard compliant, with WAP enabled. the ability to customize it will be expanded, making almost every aspect of the look and feel left to your imagination. here is where you come in... we want to know what YOU want. what would you like to see on the front page, what would make your PJ experience more enjoyable? consider this a focus group. suggest ideas and discuss ideas people have offered. Here are suggestions recieved so far: - Better control over fonts
- Something for featured artists
- Russian language/more language support
- Ability to add/remove content on frontpage
feel free to offer your opinions on those, and be sure to suggest your own
Edited by Ensellitis - 10 August 2006 at 9:49pm
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PandaPlanet
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It would be handy if there was a way to enlarge all text with a single button. I tend to look at PJ before going to bed (2:27 AM atm) and things get woozy then. This would also help any people with eyeproblems and/or dyselexia.
<3 Panda
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Aleiav
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How about no character limit on comments? I guess debates aren't really to be had in the news area but... still. Text limits are aggravating when you want to say a lot.
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Brian the Great
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Every page should have a big propaganda poster of father Lenin.
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Larwick
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 Posted: 10 August 2006 at 5:42pm |
Aleiav, i'm afraid there has to be a limit for comments to avoid serious spamming. Not sure what the limit is at the moment but it might be haggleable i suppose.
Can't think of anything i'd like to see added atm, but i'm sure i'll think of something soon. Or i might not. =D
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Ensellitis: Don't you mean v3?
Panda: I'm pretty sure ALL browsers have a text size option in the tool bar.
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Ctrl+MouseScrollWheel
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"At least we killed some boredom..." - Death Note.
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However, I've noticed that CTRL + Mousescroll doesn't work on all text. I, being mildly dyslexic, am annoyed  ...sortof.
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Ensellitis
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font size will be addressed. any other ideas/suggestions? this being a community, i would love some community input to the new design. what happened to my sticky?
Edited by Ensellitis - 10 August 2006 at 8:31pm
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Dejital
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More featured pixel artists! Hah. I guess that's not a v3 thing but we need more.  And why not a Russian language translation! Google has that I think? Look at Gas13's stamp collab, a bunch of us Russians.
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Ensellitis
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i will make some sort of area for featured artists to coerce those pesky admins to do more of them.
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Originally posted by Ensellitiswhat happened to my sticky? 
no one notices stickies.. at least i never do. hmm
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halfDemon
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Instead of having to find the news article, it'd be nice for there to be a link to last month's top ten pixel pieces on the front page. That is, unless I'm missing something...
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Every pixel counts, even the dead ones.
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Ensellitis
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no, your not, another good idea
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jalonso
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Just an idea. Maybe there is a way to link a partcular piece to its WIP
thread when applicable? Say in the art submission page right below the PJ rules* a check box to indicate that it had a development thread and somehow creates a link to it.
*Wish List - A hand that pops out of the
screen and slaps the artist who violates rule #6 then lists them on the
front page in the "shame" section
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PandaPlanet
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@PixelBlink: I know about the option but it doesn't work on any site but Google. I think it has to do with HTML tags (<Paragraph>?) @Demon: I just had a PM from Larwick who also sent me the CTRL-Scroll thingy, but it only enlargens the •'s on the right frame. @Wannahlakujuu: Exactly, my nephew adores this site for the 'pretty pictures' (Mostly Medieval related) but whenever I try and get him to sign up and join the community he says: "It's hard for me to read". I've also got 3 friends in class who're slightly dyslexic and they've got the same problems. I'm sure they aren't the only ones on the globe ;)
Originally posted by Ensellitis
font size will be addressed. Godbless you!  Edit: Did you already add the font size? Because I just noticed the little bar ontop of the news with the 'Adjust Font'-option 
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maloART
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According to the font size suggestion, to make this relative to the user's preferences (font size option, Ctrl+Wheel, etc. ), you'll have to change all absolute text size in the css file : http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/css_styles/default_style.css :
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/* Text */
.smText {font-size: 10px;}
.lgText {font-size: 15px;}
.heading {font-size: 19px;}
... this should be expressed in % or with keyword (normal/large/small/x-large/xx-large/ ...)
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Larwick
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Going along with jalonsos suggestion, howabout having some more areas you could fill out when needed for when you're submitting a piece? For example, "WIP thread/image:" and "#ofFrames:" could be useful.
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Ensellitis
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@panda, that has been there foir awhile XD @maloart, that css file is not going to be used. everything is going to be redone.
my idea so far is a ajax based design. ajax would allow you to add and remove sections that you want, dont want, and also reorganize to your taste. along with a way to customize the colors/sizes without having to submit your css, but do it in real time.
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@ensellitis : Well, I just pointed out why people could not resize their font while browsing PJ's ... Planning to use Ajax framework is definetly a good idea, technically speaking.
The Larwick suggestion is good. You should add new attributes to submitted pixels like UrlToThread (allowing to link the forum directly but also other forums like Pixelopolis), UrlToRef (allowing to link every referenced pictures).
Could we have some personal statistics like 'How many new pictures have been submited since my last visit ?', 'How many people rated (not showing the values of course) for my pixel ?' ...
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what if.....you can't rate art until you click the preview to view full image? it may be a little inconvenient, but who knows how many people rate based on the preview image. it isn't exactly essential or convenient but it may throw off ratings.. opinions? i'm not sure if many people would like that though
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I agree with alkie.
What about adding some function to the news submissions where one can add images and format the news post to their liking? I'd like to see that.
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yeah, people rate the previews to get the highest # of ratings..
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Dejital
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How about more "new" pixels on the front page, like on PJv1. Cause now most people will click more on the high rated pixels and only the 3 newest.
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jalonso
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Here's an idea for the v3 programming nerds;
Is it possible to include an "@" alert tab in the comments. Say you
look at a piece and make a comment with a question for the artist or
your comment includes something that sparks a debate of some kind.
Unless an answer is directly above yours you have no way of knowing
something needs a further reply from you or a need to manually check
the piece again. This happens to me often and often feel like an idiot
for not noticing till its too late. Maybe any piece that mentions you
by name could be an alert or even better a check box that you choose to
follow then alerts you of new comments on that particular piece that is
not yours?
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Dejital
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Originally posted by jalonso
Here's an idea for the v3 programming nerds;
Is it possible to include an "@" alert tab in the comments. Say you
look at a piece and make a comment with a question for the artist or
your comment includes something that sparks a debate of some kind.
Unless an answer is directly above yours you have no way of knowing
something needs a further reply from you or a need to manually check
the piece again. This happens to me often and often feel like an idiot
for not noticing till its too late. Maybe any piece that mentions you
by name could be an alert or even better a check box that you choose to
follow then alerts you of new comments on that particular piece that is
not yours?
How about a comment system like Youtubes, where you can post comments, and you can also post a reply to a comment which will send an alert to the person who you are replying to.
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halfDemon
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Originally posted by Dejital
How about a comment system like Youtubes, where you can post comments, and you can also post a reply to a comment which will send an alert to the person who you are replying to.
Seconded!
How about top ten pixel art of the year.
Edited by halfDemon - 12 August 2006 at 7:46pm
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I'd like a consistent PM inbox so that you only need to check it once to be sure nobody has PMed you, and so you never miss PMs.
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RPG is numberwang.
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Larwick
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MoD, i dont understand you thar... do you mean one which notifies of the amount of 'unread' pm's? like.. '422 NEW PMS, YU R POPLAR' =D
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Naw, you have 2 separate inboxes and they should be merged ftw.
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RPG is numberwang.
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Ensellitis
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you mean like a "unread pm" box, and once read they go to a "read pm" box?
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Oy, I feel like I'm showing a drawing to a bunch of blind people.
You have a PM inbox at the gallery and one at the forum. Currently, they are totally independent of each other, and work very differently. My suggesstion was to replace them with a unified PM inbox that recieves messages sent on the forum or the main site without distinction between the two.
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ahhhhh, you see, you never mentioned anything about the forum before XD
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Originally posted by MoD
Oy, I feel like I'm showing a drawing to a bunch of blind people.
Says the monkey with the text based browser
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Originally posted by jalonso
Originally posted by MoD
Oy, I feel like I'm showing a drawing to a bunch of blind people.
Says the monkey with the text based browser
zing
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I felt that one even through the monitor.
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Originally posted by Brian the Great
Originally posted by jalonso
Originally posted by MoD
Oy, I feel like I'm showing a drawing to a bunch of blind people.
Says the monkey with the text based browser
zing SNAP! crackle... BURN ok, back on topic folks
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howabout a notification when a certain artist posts new stuff? cause i don't have time to look through all the new art to find my favourite pixel artists... o course this could mean that alot of new art gets neglected. idk.
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anyone have any ideas for the design of pj?
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Is it possible to make it so instead of X Messages it says X Alerts, Y PMs?
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Originally posted by Dejital
Is it possible to make it so instead of X Messages it says X Alerts, Y PMs?
Every part of the layout should be hand pixeled.
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I could not agree more. No code borders/lines/shapes (within reason). Pixel fonts. 100% pixelart.
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I agree about everything but pixel fonts. While they're shecksy, they're a pain in the ass to read, especially if you have paragraphs of text.
Keep the regular text something normal, but use pixel fonts for buttons, etc.
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Don't forget about a direct link to PJs irc channel
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The IRC channel is always down for me.
As for the font, I think there should be an option to choose whether it's pixeled, or a regular font.
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the irc channel is never down :O what problem are you having?
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Just thought. It would be brilliant if we could pick our own 'favourite artists', because sometimes i want to fav all the art by one person, but i know that'd be silly.
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Originally posted by Larwick
Just thought. It would be brilliant if we could pick our own 'favourite artists', because sometimes i want to fav all the art by one person, but i know that'd be silly. I've been using the "friends" feature for that.
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the forum has issues with knowing what's been read and what hasn't. i've got to make sure to click "mark all forums read" before i leave, even if I HAVE read all the new posts in the forum.
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this is for the main site, aleiav, not the forum :P
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