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Square-hand: Piano

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Category: Pixel Art
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Topic: Square-hand: Piano
Posted By: l3m0n5
Subject: Square-hand: Piano
Date Posted: 18 January 2008 at 9:41pm

Another piece from yet another notebook sketch-turned pixel art. Im thinking of not using the very glossy highlights which are used in this piece because they give too much of a glassey illusion but im not entirely sure what other texture to go with..



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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 8:01am
I tihnk the texture would be okay if you get rid of the lines separating faces and define them with highlights or let transitions between blocks of color define them alone.

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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 1:28pm

wow, i didn't think of that. Thanks monkeh, and i think its working way better than using the dark outline

Im primarily having problems with some of the last fingers and how the light would hit them...


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:29pm
Further developing the base lighting for the piece...feel free to make any comments/suggestions/critiques... :D Go Pianos...
 


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Posted By: Hatch
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 5:27pm
I really like this. What will make it awesome is clean lines and good AA; I think it's demanded by this style. I edited the index finger to illustrate some problems in those areas:



I really think you should be constantly looking for lines that can be cleaned up, and especially lines that can be turned into 1,1,1... or 2,2,2... steps. Lines like that don't need AA.

Also, when AAing gentle angles on long lines, you have to use more than single pixels of AA color. There's lots of science and math behind this, and I don't pretend to understand much of it, but this awesome image made by Neota might give you an idea of why it's necessary:



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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 6:13pm

Oh i see what you mean. Thanx man..And it makes sense too because if my square hand is indeed made of true cubes, then both sides of each cube should have distict straight lines....well i did some spring cleaning with your tips in mind and heres what i got so far...

And i actually get what u mean about the gentle curves and the decreasing amount of aa pixels..


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Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 20 January 2008 at 1:56pm
It might be an idea to let the black keys stick out, just as on a real piano?

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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 20 January 2008 at 8:31pm
True dat, tried to make the first black key stick out and ill do more on the second one later but since its late, ill just post my latest clean-up update and hit the sack
 


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 21 January 2008 at 1:15pm

-Other black key done

-Some more cleaning up around the lines
-Extended side face of the first key so it doesnt look like it stops even though the other part of it doesn't
 


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Posted By: Fuzzyleaves
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 1:30pm
It's so pretty... or weird, but i like it. 

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Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 4:14pm
Get rid of the highlight on the black key.  Nothing else in the entire thing has a highlight.

Either get rid of it, or highlight other things that'd be affected by the light..

Also, the middle section of the index finger should be the lighter color as well - it seems to be on the same plane as the rest of the side of that finger


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 31 January 2008 at 12:44pm
im back :D
 


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Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 31 January 2008 at 5:21pm
A square musical note or two might not hurt.

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Posted By: Kee
Date Posted: 01 February 2008 at 10:47am
I say you make the wrist an eight note. Just something that could spice it uop


Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 23 April 2008 at 4:33pm
I refuse to sit back and let this Wip die




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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 23 April 2008 at 4:55pm
I honestly liked the last February edit better

I think the notes just clutter things...and I think it might look nicer with no outlines on anything (not even the piano)


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Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 10:00am
Ah, cool. :D I like the style.


Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 2:52pm
I'm not really feeling the square notes either. Decided to try some different styles and approaches to this...

EDIT: decided to keep going with the current keyboard style, straying from the usual black and white keys :D


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 11:39am
I do belive this is bump worthy: I can't decide on the style/colors to go with, im stuck between these two::
 


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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by l3m0n5

I do belive this is bump worthy: I can't decide on the style/colors to go with, im stuck between these two::
 


really liking this...I think you're nearly done ;D


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Posted By: Blad
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 2:53pm
I think you should make a mix in my opinion, Use the white and purple keyboard with the blue hand. That purple really blends well with the black keyboard notes.


Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 8:45pm
i tried that and i must admit i wasn't feeling it, it didnt flow well for some reason

fluffy colors anyone?




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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 10:10pm
terrible. go back to purple-blue. specially the purple w/o the dithering.

I would aim for a clean, desing wise pixel art. I t has that demoscene 'feel' that we all love.


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 1:41pm
quite the blunt one aren't ya metaruz?
 


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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 2:21pm
Latest update is definetely the best. Great design.

You need to stretch the AA colours along the edge for more subtle angles of lines, like on the index finger. Otherwise you're just blurring the jaggedyness.


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 4:11pm
thanks lar, im not sure about the stretching because its hard to find the right balance between 1pixel AAing and accidental banding

attempted it thoug, cleaned up some more stuff.



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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 5:03pm
at the moment I think some of the fingers look a bit off...especially the 2nd last finger...it looks quite...dislocated

I makez u a edit:




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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by l3m0n5

thanks lar, im not sure about the stretching because its hard to find the right balance between 1pixel AAing and accidental banding

attempted it thoug, cleaned up some more stuff.


No worries, you fixed it. :)


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 29 April 2008 at 7:30pm
that broken finger has got to be the longest surviving mistake that i was just too lazy to fix


if this doesnt work well i'll make use of skam's edit :q


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"Hate is my enemy, Life is short and Life is plenty, keep my eyes on my path cuz i know who sent me"


Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 4:33am
I dunno... I think I it would look better bent the same way as all the other fingers, just a bit more naturally than it was before.
 
EDIT: Typo.


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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 4:51am
well it seems like it should be facing more to the right...actually put your hand in a similar position to the image and look at that...you'll probably notice how the thumb should be further back and maybe moved to the left a bit more


k. really bad edit this time =/



EDIT: Typoo ;D


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 4:14pm
holy cow, u ate that latest edit alive skam, i tried to apply most of ur alterations, the ones i thought took away from the effect of the overall piece, i omitted



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Posted By: The B.O.B.
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 4:38pm
Lookin' good, Lemonz. Reminds me of Lawrence's simple style, what with the shapes, and emphasis on light hitting them, showing their definition much more. Guess I don't really get why the tip of his ring finger is blackened, while the tips of his other fingers are getting the same amount of light. But it's still a wip, so you know...what ev'.




Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 8:09pm
thankx man, comming from u, thats actually means a lot :D

more fixings and cleaning and adjustmentations



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"Hate is my enemy, Life is short and Life is plenty, keep my eyes on my path cuz i know who sent me"


Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 8:35pm
watch out for those huge white spaces behind the hand and fingers

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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 11:17pm
omnomnom...

I really like what you ended up doing with the last 2 fingers...gives it a nice feel of perspective...this is a huge improvement from some older versions where it looks like those 2 fingers don't really belong to the hand at all...

SO now that you've moved those fingers back I think the second black key needs to be extended a bit...and as Met says maybe reduce some of that white between the thumb and index fingah...

And one more thing...I think you've gone a bit too AA-crazy in places and some parts are starting to look a bit blurry


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Posted By: l3m0n5
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 3:33pm
thanks guys, im really making progress on this



-eased up the AA a tad
-tried lengthening 2nd black key
-white space reduction



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"Hate is my enemy, Life is short and Life is plenty, keep my eyes on my path cuz i know who sent me"



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