"And yet still, here I have seen stolen palletes, the same aa techniques, and overused angels and poses... Hmmm, how much do I know  what parts have YOU done. Many dollists have more original styles than many posters here. There are still some very original styles, yes. But main stream stuff here look exactly the same to me."

I didn't read this part. Here nobody cares about pallete "stealing". Same AA techniques? What angels? What poses? In this site art rippers don't last very long so I doubt it.

First of all, of you look at the dark gold outline for the vest, it's really similar to the darkest shade of gold within it. Perhaps you could replace the outline with that colour?

The hair and the blue thing on it have so many colours which I can't recognise when viewed at 100%. I managed to take away 2 colours; replacing the second lightest shade of brown with the lighest, and replacing the dark outline colour with the second darkest brown. I'm sure you could do something similar on the blue thing.

On that piece of fabric tied around the waist, you can replace that lightest shade of red with the orange colour (the same colour you use to anti-alias the bottom of the vest) then in the same area you can replace the darkest shade of red with the second darkest.

On the legs, you see that greyish shade of purple, the one which you can see near the top right edge? You can easily replace that with the purple shade next to it.

I've edited it this way, and there's virtually no compromise. And there are probably more colours which don't need to be there.

Also, I noticed her right upper leg uses the opposite of selout which looks quite strange especially on a dark background.

Jaeden posts many baseless pieces and she highly edits the bases of dolls that she has posted. Blue: her dolls are on her own bases. But Ely-chan has many pieces that aren't on her own base. All but one,  actually. I have nothing wrong with that. I'm just confused.

Also, Lawrence... Please tell me how I could improve color count. Your post means nothing to me. If you're going to say something, at least say how.

@THE KAPPTIN: I was just quoting her in the first phrase, I posted before she edited.

@Elsa: those dollers you say don't get "that treatment" because they do other things other than dolls too and they make their own bases. I guess what they don't like is the fact of making just hair and clothes and to say : HEY MY ART! all the time. I could be wrong too.

Lawrence... Even though I really don't understand how it's hard to understand, since there is a base posted here, why this is so hard to understand. But, there you go =)

And color count is a load of bs in my opinion so I wont even try to defend myself or the base.

And it's not a skirt. Everyone knows what a skirt is right. This is not. Is the dark line between the legs not clear enough? =D

Oh, and I'm not try to take credit for anything that doesn't belong. I write without editing, I thought there would be something else to add, but since there wasn't, I just added that on.

You're kind of vague in you're description of what you didn't do:

"skin tones, eyes and face, shape, out line, or other such things that a base can take credit for."

Other such things that a base can take credit for? Sorry but that's very vague. As a pixel artist, I'm not inclined to know such things, and for all I know those "other such things" could be anything. To me it sounds like you're sneakily trying to take credit for those other such things. Surely it can't be that hard to list it clearly? That wouldn't be too taxing now would it my love?

With that aside, I'm going to judge this on everything except the the parts you DID actually care to mention weren't yours, and ignore the "other such things" which leaves me with the shoes, skirt thing, and vest. To be honest when I first saw this I thought, wow this is great!! The overall shape/line art was most impressive ... but since that wasn't your creation, I'm a bit let down. (bit = very) This is why I'd prefer it if dollists either posted a side-by-side comparison with the base, or just erased the parts the didn't do, or a combination of both.

My last complaint is that there are way too many colours. 55 to be precise. 34 of those (62% of total) colours are in the parts you claim to have done, so no "blame-it-on-the-base" excuse for you this time.

Also, I forgot to add another thing.

It seems the less skilled dollists, like myself and a few other posters here do this get this treatment. While the experienced and skilled ones, such as the ones I meantioned before: Blue, Jaeden, and Ely chan.

And yet still, here I have seen stolen palletes, the same aa techniques, and overused angels and poses... Hmmm, how much do I know  what parts have YOU done. Many dollists have more original styles than many posters here. There are still some very original styles, yes. But main stream stuff here look exactly the same to me.

@ Fishmeester, btw, you sound kind of full of yourself. To only post, you chose a bad preview image is kind of a waste of a post, since, well... Dra chan posted a much more pleasant way of saying this. And then Hishnak disagrees with both of you. To each there own. Personally, I couldn't care less if people take the time to look at it. Sooo =3

@ The Kapptin... ERr. Ummmmmmm. Did you read my post. I do NOT take credit for pose, face, skin tone and shading of the skin. How HARD is it to understand that? I even said, to ONLY CC the parts that I have done myself. And since I explained this before, it's rather easy to pinpoint those areas. So basically,  I still don't understand.

And why have dollers, such as Jaeden, Ely chan, and Blue never (as far as I have seen) gotten the "I HATE DOLLSDF!!@$" Treatment. They DOLL. Blue and Jaeden have many baseless pieces, but still, they HAVE used a base. Sooooo... yea =)

@Dra_chan AAAHH a chance to vent about dolllS!!! The reason I despise them is that they make it nearly impossible to determine how much of an image is origial. They allow people to get good comments for barely any work. Like, this one I saw and thought, "Wow", then I saw it was a doll, and I was like, "oh... I have no idea how good this is." There's that, and there's the fact that I just prefer to see new stuff rather than edited old stuff.

See, I want to get back on topic and say this is good, but I'm like, err, maybe the things I like on it aren't done by the artist....

I liked the preview, it mesterious yet discriptive. It actually drew me to click the link to see what "pin stripe" really was...

You chose a bad preview image.

Why do many sprite pixelers hate dollists sooooo very much?

I don't think they hate dollists, they just don't like the dolls themselves. Why is this? I have no idea, but don't let that frustrate you.

Mmm by the way, your preview image can make people miss this, since it's just a little square.

Couldn't this have been asked just as easily on the forum?