the tough guys (unfinished) :: Pixel Art Detail

No unfinished piece should be in the gallery.  I'm rather disappointed this has made it through.  The faces are great but those oekaki lines are just killing me inside. 

It's finally in. Now for some of those others.

Watch your back Tomic, you may be next(begins production propaganda posters against German pixel artists...)

hurrah! you have no idea how glad I am to see this finally go through. Now... finish it.

Lol, finally.       

yey, the gestapo officers did finally let this though =)

actually, i still find this oversmoothed look overly mechanical (there are MANY tools that produce exactly this look) and, frankly, it looks boringto me! but that's my taste, not a valid criticism.

the only valid part of that is that all the guys who work like this create tons of false shapes that don't help the eye identify the piece.  there's abstraction that foster recognition, and abstraction that combats it.  in what appears to be a caricature, i'm not certain the latter is your ally.

This is far too deep a critique for these boards.  I would love to discuss your work over at pixelation if you're interested in continuing the conversation, but there's no need for that here.



BTW - would someone approve this already?

Oh, and doing this by hand is not really a big deal, there's just one 16 colour range for skin tone to keep track of. Some of my other pictures were a lot harder to do. I would be more impressed if there were any tools that could produce this look.

Well, although I use brilliance this is all hand pixeled. I pick a colour from the palette and place it with a 1 pixel size brush, even though I often use the keyboard to pick the colour (+/- along the palette). It is true that brilliance has various other draw modes (smooth, tint, brighten, darken etc). I sometimes use those for sketching or trying out colours schemes. But the result from using those tools always looks like crap, it would never look like something hand pixeled. In all my finished pictures, every pixel is placed by hand in colour mode. I wouldn't be surprised those tools have been used by scene graphicians, but lots of scene gfx is obviously hand pixeled.

unless im terribly mistaken, indexpainting includes any tool that changes each pixel incrementally along a set palette rather than handpicking colors.  it's pixel-perfect placement, but there's still a lot of machining going on that i don't know whether people here approve of or not (dpaint has it and all demoscene stuff submitted here catches this kind of hell for that reason).


I believe you could do this by hand, though it gives the impression of tools

What exactly do you mean by index painting?

The left is very funny, so I fave this picture :)

I know it's old "scene" pixel art style, but that's the kind that uses assloads of index-painting.  Is that what we consider kosher here? (seriously, I like this piece and i don't care one way or the other - it's just a question I've been wanting to ask)

To smoth and hard to control all those pixels with this count of colors for faces - i understand why is not finished =)

and yes... this is old "scene" pixel art style.

This is most definitely pixel-art, yes. However, it's a wip. The Gallery is for finished pieces only. I think this will be easily accepted if you finish the bodies, or just crop it smaller, and finish the hair on the fellows. I'd send it into the gallery if this were done, anyway....

Yep, I stayed at Kare's place when I was at KG05. I tied 2nd with my Yus Bird pic :B

hmm yes. the picture was indecently unfinished for a compo. you're a friend of nerve's as far as I remember?

This was kindergarten'05, no? I think I remember this. You got place 1 for laughs, if I remember correctly.

hehe, not to mention my 12colour logo ;)

I fail to understand why your pieces take so long to be accepted.. especially this one, which is more obviously 100% pixel than the rest...

Awe. I just want you to know, that I think you should finish this piece. It's coming out great, and I would love to see it done.

well, opinions of ppl that are not even able to open an .iff file don't count anyway =)

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oh.. the pic: top notch as always.. dunno about the glasses though 

They look like younger, dorkier versions of the guys from They Might Be Giants.

I did post links to wips for some of the other pictures, but they're all archives with amiga iff files, so maybe people don't take the trouble to look at them. I guess I could make post some image links like this instead.