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Title: the tough guys (unfinished)
Pixel Artist: sondre  (Level 1 Thug :: 395 points)
Posted: 9/29/2007 10:04
Palette: 31 colors
Statistics:  26 comments    4 faves    0 avatars

I submitted this to a compo, and I always intended to finish it later, but I have realized it might not happen.

wip:

http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=possestepsyl1.png

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AdamPlays (Level 6 SWAT) @ 12/20/2007 22:55
No unfinished piece should be in the gallery.  I'm rather disappointed this has made it through.  The faces are great but those oekaki lines are just killing me inside. 

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Doomcreator0 (Level 5 Assistant Manager) @ 12/18/2007 15:30
It's finally in. Now for some of those others.

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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 12/17/2007 16:12
Watch your back Tomic, you may be next(begins production propaganda posters against German pixel artists...)

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Malor (Level 4 Button Man) @ 12/17/2007 14:46
hurrah! you have no idea how glad I am to see this finally go through. Now... finish it.

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skeddles (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 12/17/2007 14:39
Lol, finally.       

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tomic (Level 11 Admiral) @ 12/17/2007 14:08
yey, the gestapo officers did finally let this though =)

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 12/12/2007 08:24
It's a good point. I added variations in the dithering to avoid banding, but they kind of obscure the shape of the objects, adding to an already poor interpretation of the light and the shapes (which is a bit of a weakness I have).
 
I'm still kind of happy with it as a quick drawing :) (Oh and it won't be approved because it's unfinished).

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Adarias (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 12/9/2007 21:33
actually, i still find this oversmoothed look overly mechanical (there are MANY tools that produce exactly this look) and, frankly, it looks boringto me! but that's my taste, not a valid criticism.

the only valid part of that is that all the guys who work like this create tons of false shapes that don't help the eye identify the piece.  there's abstraction that foster recognition, and abstraction that combats it.  in what appears to be a caricature, i'm not certain the latter is your ally.

This is far too deep a critique for these boards.  I would love to discuss your work over at pixelation if you're interested in continuing the conversation, but there's no need for that here.



BTW - would someone approve this already?

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 12/9/2007 18:25
Oh, and doing this by hand is not really a big deal, there's just one 16 colour range for skin tone to keep track of. Some of my other pictures were a lot harder to do. I would be more impressed if there were any tools that could produce this look.

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 12/9/2007 18:07
Well, although I use brilliance this is all hand pixeled. I pick a colour from the palette and place it with a 1 pixel size brush, even though I often use the keyboard to pick the colour (+/- along the palette). It is true that brilliance has various other draw modes (smooth, tint, brighten, darken etc). I sometimes use those for sketching or trying out colours schemes. But the result from using those tools always looks like crap, it would never look like something hand pixeled. In all my finished pictures, every pixel is placed by hand in colour mode. I wouldn't be surprised those tools have been used by scene graphicians, but lots of scene gfx is obviously hand pixeled.

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Adarias (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 12/9/2007 17:33
unless im terribly mistaken, indexpainting includes any tool that changes each pixel incrementally along a set palette rather than handpicking colors.  it's pixel-perfect placement, but there's still a lot of machining going on that i don't know whether people here approve of or not (dpaint has it and all demoscene stuff submitted here catches this kind of hell for that reason).


I believe you could do this by hand, though it gives the impression of tools

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 12/9/2007 04:38
What exactly do you mean by index painting?

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BiOBER (Level 5 Soldier) @ 12/9/2007 02:38
The left is very funny, so I fave this picture :)

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Adarias (Level 11 Bonsai) @ 12/8/2007 09:36
I know it's old "scene" pixel art style, but that's the kind that uses assloads of index-painting.  Is that what we consider kosher here? (seriously, I like this piece and i don't care one way or the other - it's just a question I've been wanting to ask)

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jamon (Level 10 Operative) @ 11/30/2007 07:49
To smoth and hard to control all those pixels with this count of colors for faces - i understand why is not finished =)

and yes... this is old "scene" pixel art style.

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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 10/15/2007 16:12
This is most definitely pixel-art, yes. However, it's a wip. The Gallery is for finished pieces only. I think this will be easily accepted if you finish the bodies, or just crop it smaller, and finish the hair on the fellows. I'd send it into the gallery if this were done, anyway....

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ptoing (Level 7 Cuttlefish) @ 10/12/2007 13:08
Yep, I stayed at Kare's place when I was at KG05. I tied 2nd with my Yus Bird pic :B

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 10/12/2007 12:39
hmm yes. the picture was indecently unfinished for a compo. you're a friend of nerve's as far as I remember?

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ptoing (Level 7 Cuttlefish) @ 10/11/2007 10:13
This was kindergarten'05, no? I think I remember this. You got place 1 for laughs, if I remember correctly.

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 10/9/2007 19:44
hehe, not to mention my 12colour logo ;)

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Malor (Level 4 Button Man) @ 10/9/2007 18:04
I fail to understand why your pieces take so long to be accepted.. especially this one, which is more obviously 100% pixel than the rest...

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skeddles (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 10/2/2007 17:57
Awe. I just want you to know, that I think you should finish this piece. It's coming out great, and I would love to see it done.

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tomic (Level 11 Admiral) @ 9/30/2007 03:01

well, opinions of ppl that are not even able to open an .iff file don't count anyway =)

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oh.. the pic: top notch as always.. dunno about the glasses though 


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HMC (Level 7 General Manager) @ 9/29/2007 17:09
They look like younger, dorkier versions of the guys from They Might Be Giants.

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sondre (Level 1 Thug) @ 9/29/2007 12:00
I did post links to wips for some of the other pictures, but they're all archives with amiga iff files, so maybe people don't take the trouble to look at them. I guess I could make post some image links like this instead.

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