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Tomba (Level 1 Rookie) at 1/25/2008 12:07:24 AM
Equilibrix: Jojo, angličtina je děsná, nechápu, jak se jí může někdo naučit. Věty v angličtině nedávájí smysl. Používám Translator :-)
Equilibrix (Level 5 Captain) at 1/24/2008 11:38:47 PM
Tomba: Možná bych pro tebe mohl překládat, jestli chceš? Řekl bych, že jsi asi použil nějaký překladač, ale vychází z toho docela nesrozumitelné věty.. Jestli chceš přeložit nějakou zprávu, jen mi pošli PM a já ti to zašlu jakž takž přeložené :-)Jinak super pixel art, dávám si tě do buddies!
(Just offering Tomba translation from Czech to English.. Not that I speak flawlessly but I think the translator he used produces pretty odd sentences. Maybe worse than mine own :-))
dogmeat (Level 7 General Manager) at 1/24/2008 8:59:38 AM
Tomba: Thanks for the links, exactly what I was looking for, very interesting technique. Maybe I'll have a hand at trying it myself. I've always been interested in non purist pixel technique, I think a lot can be learned from doing copy/trace work or gridwork like you've done and apply those techniques to something purist.
Adam (Level 8 Brigadier General) at 1/24/2008 5:08:21 AM
Haha! These photos bring back memories. I started pixeling like this on C64 ages before. Wasted a lot of paper... Tomba (Level 1 Rookie) at 1/24/2008 4:37:33 AM
Annie is OUT! Everything take like compliment. Certainly Shall I somewhere on diskettes all artworks in course of manufacture state. I would have to but dust up old Amigu1200 and everything convert to 2,5" harddisk and then to the PC. I send at least photograph unfinished in course of manufacture artworks. Tomba (Level 1 Rookie) at 1/24/2008 12:27:52 AM
for DOGMEAT: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2734/p1240058ry8.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1904/p1240060sq2.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4570/p1240061fg0.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6908/p1240063fb9.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2896/p1240064px7.jpg
pictures be given to below foliums, at what was grating, and repainted on square paper
ThereIsNoCure (Level 11 Godfather) at 1/23/2008 6:32:52 PM
shan't? that's some archaic translator/dictionary. I'm not poking fun, it's just so odd.I'm reserving my opinion, but the gallery of for legitimate pixel art, it's not a museum. If members want to see some oldschool demoscene stuff that doesn't meet our rules, then they can google it, it's no reason to break our own rules.
dogmeat (Level 7 General Manager) at 1/23/2008 6:26:54 PM
Personally, i've grown to like this and the other 2 images from Tomba. Weather or not they're rips, edits, etc.. who knows. I tend to think like iLKke, back in the demoscene days there was "copy" or "no copy" which indicated reference. Even if this is "copy" I wouldn't be personally opposed to having it in the gallery as it's a really good example of an older style of pixeling. While we want to try and avoid having "illegal" pieces in the gallery, I think in some cases those rules should be overlooked ( in this case, for historical purposes ).Tomba. I would be interested to see some sort of pixel tutorial from you ( especially if you're a true demoscene artist ). To better understand your pixel placements, color choices, etc..
Tomba (Level 1 Rookie) at 1/23/2008 5:09:05 PM
My English is very bad, I'm sorry in advance. Upon this isn't nothing heavy (how writes iLKke). Be enough only model and square paper. AA be but very circuitously, crossings on her face are by hand smoothed coordinate like on map. Alone shan't fancy jump the queue without model, which account really art. Send next creations from the old days.
jalonso (Level 11 Godfather) at 1/22/2008 12:06:03 PM
...and until this happens its being sent back. 72 hours have passed with no response.
The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) at 1/22/2008 12:02:43 PM
Don't mean to be a bother, but that is NOT flawless AA. Seems more to be a type of banding. Good AAing doesn't mean pack a chock full of colors to ramp into the other. Remember, pixel art started out very restrictive, so most of it's bread and butter techniques rely on the "less is more" theory. That's not to say that larger color count isn't Pixel Art. It can most definitely be. However, the best know when to hold 'em and fold 'em, if you catch my drift.In essence, I think this piece is ok. I can understand the reference point, but I'm not seeing a direct rip, though it very well could be. However, if left up to me, I'd rather not let this through until I hear a response from the artist him/herself, regarding references, and whatnot. I know it seems like we're jerks, but it is for the best...
iLKke (Level 7 Mass Murderer) at 1/22/2008 11:59:34 AM
This is all very familiar, really. Lots of people come here submitting images they made years ago on the scene, and they are almost always under doubt 'cause they are new to the PJ community. The demoscene had a lot of technically very skilled pixel artists, buy copying photographs was very common, unfortunately.
Stasis (Level 2 Corporal) at 1/22/2008 11:55:07 AM
Sorry about that, iLKke.
But I did mean that comment. I've never seen pixel art so flawlessly antialised, and if it is truly pixel art, I have nothing but praise for Tomba because that is truly amazing.
But the lack of any comment by the creator, as well as the fact that it's his first submission, leads me to doubt it. However... it doesn't exactly match up to the picture that appears to be his reference... So it would be wise for me to just shut up now.
Equilibrix (Level 5 Captain) at 1/22/2008 8:52:01 AM
I think it is believable that it was done by hand. If I take a closer look, every pixel seems to be perfectly in it's place. Of course, the outlines could be traced and possibly were.. Wrong thing is that author didn't provide us with any reference on information how he created this. Until he/she gives us the info and/or reference, I can't give it any credit.. iLKke (Level 7 Mass Murderer) at 1/22/2008 8:36:24 AM
I think this is all done by hand. Nothing new, just a lot of time and effort invested.A typical PAL amiga scene-compo image from the nineties.
I don't like this kind of 'art' but technically it's acceptable.
@Stasis: Please refrain form 'god' comments. There's so much of that attitude and it helps no one
Metaru (Level 8 Brigadier General) at 1/22/2008 6:51:16 AM
the fault here is probably not giving credit to the reference, wich is a sinonym of "i made this picture from scratch". but hey, after every doubt is cleared, we give the piece and the artist all the support and credit that we could give. the doubts are something natural as the massive amount of fakes that we recieve.
greenraven (Level 5 Killer Klown) at 1/22/2008 5:55:38 AM
I always hate it when stuff is so good that starts to be doubted. 
This is why making mediocre pixels is so great. No one ever doubts the quality of your crappy work.
Wolverine (Level 8 Brigadier General) at 1/22/2008 2:23:02 AM
That kind of AA really isn't that hard to do. Just takes some patience and care. This image could possibly be traced over a photo but that's up to the artist to provide reference and WIP shots.
jamon (Level 8 Marshal) at 1/22/2008 1:05:38 AM
you are the judge >>> http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testichio9.gifcan be painted over - or traced.....
jalonso (Level 11 Godfather) at 1/21/2008 7:10:20 PM
References are required when portraits are submitted.I found this but wonder if you have the one you used and any possible WIPs.
Doomcreator0 (Level 7 Sheriff) at 1/21/2008 5:29:38 PM
I don't find it that hard to believe. It looks like it was placed there on purpose. Stasis (Level 2 Corporal) at 1/21/2008 5:05:38 PM
My point exactly. I find it very hard to believe that much antialiasing, that smoothly, was done by hand.
dragonxxjef (Level 1 Gangster) at 1/21/2008 4:24:16 PM
wow this is realy great and stasis thats just alot of AA Stasis (Level 2 Corporal) at 1/21/2008 3:04:57 PM
I'm not so sure... Zoom in and take a look at the hairline and the edges of the lips. Hard to believe that's really pixel art.
If this really was done pixel-by-pixel, I apologize for doubting you, and you are a god.
Lollige (Level 9 Necrophiliac) at 1/21/2008 1:19:05 PM
When I saw the prev I was not sure if this was going to be PA or not.. but this surely is! Awesome stuff! very realistic!However, her left shoulder looks a bit flat.. maybe that could use some more work.. Also its hard to see the right profile on the ear
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