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Title: Helm 'n' Axe
Pixel Artist: ThePixelKnight  (Level 1 Rookie :: 7351 points)
Posted: 1/17/2012 15:03
Palette: 40 colors
Statistics:  25 comments    30 faves    0 avatars

Here's the colour version of my helm 'n' axe pic www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/67843.htm took a lot of tweeking the palette and there are 77 colours but I'm fairly happy with the results. hope you like :)

[Edit] I've made some modifications based on the sketch TheInquisitor made (thanks Inquisitor). And I've reduced the colours to 40.

Heres the original i.imgur.com/N5Z6s.png

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failureboy (Level 7 Assassin) @ 7/7/2012 04:22

Do you still care about editing this?

If you do...

...i think hIs left arm and foot should be more shaded.  Especially the arm.  Also, I think you should consider just moving the left foot closer into the body, as though it also is crouched beneath him.

Plus, the thumb of his right hand is weird (the wrist should be lower and so should the crease between the thumb and pointer finger).

Love the detail work, though - especially all the metal parts.  Anatomy issues aside this piece is fantastic.


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Genler (Level 2 Petty Officer) @ 2/5/2012 12:40

 you sir are going to be the succesor of fool.


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TheInquisitor (Level 4 Shichikyu) @ 1/23/2012 14:47

Oh yeah, comparing it with the black and white version, you can definitely see the improvement. I honestly still believe there to be more that can be done but those changes have made a big difference! Perhaps a better artist than I can guide you even further. Have you posted this on pixelation for further assessment?


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TheInquisitor (Level 4 Shichikyu) @ 1/23/2012 03:18

It looks a lot closer to me. There are still bits I don't like, like the back foot is still weirdly placed. It should be planted on the floor. However, it's certainly looking more accurate. Could we see a comparison shot to compare with the original?


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ThePixelKnight (Level 1 Rookie) @ 1/22/2012 15:57

@ TheInquisitor: I've made the changes, what do you think?


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Terrify (Level 3 Chief) @ 1/21/2012 21:50

 This is amazing, I love the color choices, and am in love with chainmail and stone :)


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Sublyme (Level 4 Murderer) @ 1/21/2012 14:00

shading is exquisite


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TheInquisitor (Level 4 Shichikyu) @ 1/21/2012 10:29

I hope you'll make the changes.


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ThePixelKnight (Level 1 Rookie) @ 1/20/2012 12:05

@ TheInquisitor: Thanks for doing the sketch :D it makes more sense now and would certainly look better with those modifications.


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TheInquisitor (Level 4 Shichikyu) @ 1/19/2012 18:04

www.rpg-palace.com/inquisitor/guide_pixel.png

Here's my rough sketch.

- I've made his planted hand a little bigger

- Made his other hand more in line with the axe

- Made his pecks less tilted (facing down more)

- Given him more of a left shoulder, which has moved his arm along a few pixels

- Trimmed his leg down so that it has a kinked knee rather than a bendy one.

- sketched in a rough second leg. I didn't think the squat pose was really working.

 

Now, those are only my suggestive changes. I'm no expert, so you're probably best hoping that someone else chips in and gives my suggestions the thumbs up or the thumbs down.


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ThePixelKnight (Level 1 Rookie) @ 1/19/2012 12:23

@ TheInquisitor: Thanks Inquisitor, I agree with what you said about the chainmail. foot shadows and hands I was never entierly happy with the chainmail. As my knowledge of the human anatomy isn't great spotting the flaws isn't easy so it's been helplful to have people point them out. If you can find the time to sketch over it I'd love to see it, it'll be a great help :)


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ThePixelKnight (Level 1 Rookie) @ 1/19/2012 11:44

Thanks ptoing, love what you did to palette :) I was planning on reducing the palette myself and will do at some point and your edit will hopefully help with that.


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TheoVision (Level 8 Regional Boss) @ 1/19/2012 06:58

somehow I like the B/W version better, although I love the subtle coloring of the stones


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Mathias (Level 7 Junk) @ 1/18/2012 21:46

Definitely did not expect a colored version, and so well colored, too. But whoa, ptoing's edit speaks volumes! I'd study it in detail since he was nice enough to do it for ya.

Keep rockin' in the free world home chicken aaaaaalll riiiigghhtt!

*goes back to his cell . . .


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st0ven (Level 2 Dealer) @ 1/18/2012 18:55

your rendering is gorgeous, but i cant understand why youd render this so well before fixing some pretty basic anatomical issues. theyre impossible to fix now, but man this image would be epic if there werent some head scratchers going on with its basic structure. still im sure youll get a lot of favorites for this! ^_^


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slym (Level 8 Cannelé) @ 1/18/2012 17:26

 Haha this is better, but why didn't you just change the image of the old one? 


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reis (Level 6 Serial Killer) @ 1/18/2012 16:44

 Fantastic.


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Shiru (Level 6 SWAT) @ 1/18/2012 16:24

The b/w version was amazing. This is amazing++.


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TheInquisitor (Level 4 Shichikyu) @ 1/18/2012 14:08

It's a really good effort. The colours are good and the textures are good (thought I'm probably the only person who's not a fan of the chainmail).

However, there are obvious problems with the anatomy. It's a hard pose to get right because everything is squashed in. I would recommend constant life drawing classes to get you up to speed on this because it's definitely the weak area.

At first glance something that definitely stands out are the hands. The hand on the floor seems a little small (probably made worse by the fact that really only two digits are visible) to me and I think I'd be better if it were flat on the ground rather than pushed up by the thumb and index finger. The other hand is definitely wrong. Considering the angle that we're seeing the axe, the hand just doesn't match. You should edit it so that the hand is angled to fit the axe or the axe is angled to fit the hand. I'd recommend just editing the hand so that we're seeing more of the back of it (i.e not the palm) flatly.

One specific I can note is that I don't think the shoes cast enough shadow. They're supposed to be planted on the ground and I think to make them blend better, it would be wise just to give them that little bit more shadow so that they look close to the ground than other parts of the body. Also, I think that the nearer boot should be planted rather than awkwardly tilted backward - I don't think I've even seen someone kneel like that. There would honestly be no reason for someone to do so.

Gosh, there's so many little things in this piece that bug me. I think, if you do not mind and I find time, I'd like to draw over it with a few sketch lines to help me make sense of my own critique. There's too much to get my head around in simple text.

Personally I think that the best part of this piece is the stone floor that he's kneeling on. Boy, is that good!


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Satsume (Level 10 Capo) @ 1/18/2012 13:22

yeah,it's better! 


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philippejugnet (Level 6 Hitman) @ 1/18/2012 11:26

 wow way better but the chest is still not good


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ECPixel (Level 8 Marshal) @ 1/18/2012 03:30

That version is better IMHO )


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ptoing (Level 7 Cuttlefish) @ 1/17/2012 17:26

This is nice, you are coming along. There are inconsistencies in the AA and the colourcount is excessive I think.
Since I really enjoy reducing colours I made this.

It's quite a bit in the other direction, very lean, only 32 colours. So I had to make some compromises. Just wanted to show you what can be done. Hope it helps a bit.


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shampoop (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 1/17/2012 16:56

 I'm curious, do you prefer the black & white one or this?


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Alex Pang (Level 7 Underboss) @ 1/17/2012 15:56

 You are dithering like a mad man :) 

But I like it!


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