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Great portrait, not sure why people are accusing of tracing but whatever, really really love the lighting on the face itself, really brings the image out
@Delicious - not the problem to show refs in future. Although many peoples don't show their refs and I don't see anything wrong with that. Ok, let it be a good tone, understand.
Mortal pixel Combat
Generally it's not an art school. This is the gallery where are each artist have own style. What's done is done. I don't deny use of Ref, but as I said, the work was long to do this image! And I don't have a WIP (for the deaf), cause i not saved intermediate versions. And finally, I don't must to show my wip's. This is an option and not necessarily.
For future reference, please post the reference image to avoid conflicts such as this. It's hard to be lenient to a certain degree and allow some pieces to get away with tracing, not that I am accusing you. Regardless, you did adjust the piece heavily from the reference with the hat and background.
Cure said what I would of, so there's not much else to go from here.
Personally I don't even think it matters if it is (partly) a color reduction. It's obvious that the artist did a lot of pixelling post-reduction, if a reduction did occur. If not, then it's possibly he traced parts of the image. I don't think that really matters either. I think the result that we see here is pretty far removed from the reference, and the artist has made intentional distortions of the figure, intentional management of the color palette, and thought to attire and background. The only argument I can see is "it's not fair that he gets to create images using [x] method and I'm not.", which is a valid argument but shouldn't detract from this piece.
@ Yurrii - =) New member with 2x comments ;) great! and one is on this image =)
So i'm bad beacuse somebody is breaking the rules ;) funny
1 - There was no reference image.
2.- There was no WIP image.
I'm still strongly on opinion that this is color reduction. Best of all is that i have an image of hat that is used on image ;)
I wish you and your friend all the best on PJ.
And note to the moderatos.. Thik why some artists are stoped to post pictures on PJ.
It's really funny how persistant jamon and the other are at trying to make you look bad.
Keep up the great work.
posting a "portrait" of a well known person. Might be problematic that it's a ripoff because it looks like one of the thousand photos of that person? lol
what's the purpose of portraits if they actually don't resemble the actual person? A portrait is basically nothing different than a hand-eye coordinated real life or photo trace unless we are going into caricature.
But a portrait also is so much more, it's painting technique, it's the ambience, the lighting, the feeling, the characterization.
A good portrait an a snapshot in the web differ in so many ways. Otherwise everyone handling a camera would be a great artist or a great photographer.
The tracing debate is also senseless. Today it's possible to trace everything if we want to really quick. Before the computer artists used a camera obscura (and a lot of "master paintings" were done this way) or they just measured out everything or used a grid or a "grid machine".
The only real problem I see is if there is actually a huge difference in skill if one measures out stuff and "traces" it basically and the feeling for proportions of that person aren't on the same level. Means a good artist actually anyways sees if some techniques align unproportionally in terms of skill level.
tracing is not a crime, although it also don't helps a lot with improving in the long haul.
@jamon - Your link is very strange. It's my own pixels on photo ref.
@cure - It's close to real. But I was drawing on a new layer each pixel, and changed proportions and that was a hard work. In any case, I spent 15 hours on this result ..
scroll down i posted link... there are pixels that are on same positions on both images ;)
It's possible that he stretched and rotated the reference and then did fairly extensive pixelling on top of that, but I haven't seen any evidence.
@cure.... here is color reduction problem.... not reference ;)
I don't see how this is a trace, or what the big deal is. Nothing wrong in using a photo reference and I don't think Andy was being intentionally misleading.
Dig the portrait btw, just look out for banding.
I'm surprised YOU don't know the difference between fan art and tracing.
Ok, i provided a link. Now all can breathe more deeply ))
@Gengar - I`m not a true fan of him, but i like his charisma. I have fun to work on it - it was enough to get pleasure from the process and raise skills :)
Great pixel work. As others have said, if you're a fan of Harrelson you should check out True Detective. Also, while I believe it is courteous to provide a link to reference images used, I'm suprised a level 9 artist like DE doesn't know the difference between plagarism and fan art.
From the rules of submitting to the PJ Gallery:
If the image is a trace or relies heavily on specific photographic material, then provide a link to this material.
When I saw this piece, with no reference provided, I imagined it was a straight up trace. You've done a great job with this, andylittle. I hope you'll follow the PJ Gallery guidelines and include a link in the description. In my mind, comparing this piece to the original only makes your work more impressive, because you've certainly added your personal artistic touch - more so than people would expect.
Do you honestly believe plagiarism only applies to commercial work? You're mistaken, my friend.
That said, I've reported this pixel piece as plagiarism.
What a rip-off, what a plagiarism?! I do not sell this images here. Just relax and watch the pixels, because it brings pleasure. Pictures are fun! )
Do you even understand what we're getting at here? You can work off a photo all you want, but you should always put a link to that photo in the description. Otherwise you claim the piece is wholly yours, which is not the case. And claiming authorship for somebody else's work (in this case, a photo) is plagiarism.
@-DE- - I do not deny, but you dig in the wrong place..
Well, if it's so important to you - spend time on it, I do not mind
WIP is records by steps. Too late in this piece - I have no intermediate records.
If you claim you didn't work off that photo and instead recreated the man's face from memory, all I can say is - brace for a plagiarism warning.
I haven't seen portraits with a link to a foto. It was not a WiP.
Instead to get fun, you guys looking for cheating
Whenever you trace a photo, it is good form to link it in the description. Otherwise casual viewers will believe you did it from scratch and give you kudos for something you haven't done.
@andylittle - i just ask you is this your reference... ;) My oppinion will keep for my self ;)
@jamon - is it crime now? :) I still have it every pixel hands did - so the filter will not do result like this. If you wanted to compare real photo with my image, it should look like this, and not something that you put finalized:
imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img46/8527/gy5.gif
And this is probably your reference file?
https://imageshack.com/a/img594/6176/q8b.gif
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/74093/thumbs/s-WOODY-HARRELSON-large.jpg
Haha wow, this is kind of eerie. So... a perfectly captured Woody Harrelson.
Cool portrait, great movie...but a lot of banding on the left brim and some where the hat meets the skin.
This piece is far greater than the movie was. Real nice work here.
Thank you guys :)
@4red & Gecimen - ok, i will look it. Thanks for the tip! )
Last weekend I've watched true detective s1 in a day so this is so good to see :)
really great face. would play Woody Harrelson in a post-apocalyptic game.
OMG! that's a GREAT picture jajajajajaja, fricking love it!
Mr. Harrelson! Top class pixelling, 10/10 for me.
So good at 1X I don't even want to zoom in and inspect closely.
This is amazing! very nice color palette and awesome use of it. Lots of character in the face and background! 10/10 + faved
Hahaha! Woody!
Awesome! (thought the movie sort of sucked though :(). Zombie-wise, zillions of better movies, me thinks.
Great movie. Also check "true detective" he was great there too.
Number 5. of the rules when submitting asks to post reference if used heavily (Which it is). Believe me, you're not the only one - We try our best to avoid it though. Thanks! Also, this is a great piece by the way.