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@Havocplague; Honestly, that was a better reaction than I was hoping for. You are welcome to share your future progress in here whenever its pixel art, not because we despise other artforms, but because this site is dedicated.
@Crafty, please be softer on people ;) As Zizka said, community opinion is the strongest deciding factor in approval.
Eff it, I just don't need any more drama, I'll just take it down and be done with it. And I'll make sure to work on things for my next c64-pieces, to make sure that they don't create any doubts as to it's authenticity.
- I thought people were just being rude, but I realize that's not the case anymore... The steps are too short, too precise, and unplanned. Idk anymore... -
Ah indeed.
As far as I recall there was quite a bit of drama on PixelJoint as well, including extensive effort to fake the working stages.
Let me put this in a bit of context. Essay time!
Here on PJ there was a lenghty discussion as to where to draw the line of something being pixel art / not pixel art. Long story short, closest thing to conclusion was that if something has been articulated on a pixel-level then it is pixel art regardless of the process. PJ is a community of artists and if you use photographic or other reference you are expected to share your process rather than try to deceive in order to get praise for the skills that you don't have. Being a community of fellow skilled artists also means that inevitably some people will be able to tell when you are faking rather easily.
On the other hand most of the demoscene nowadays (including the CSDb website where you also posted this pic) is more concerned with technical rather than artistic merit. If you simply colour-reduce a photo to make it look nice on the c64, there are people who will praise you for it because it makes the c64 as a platform look relevant and capable, or something. There is still no artistic merit in doing so, but there is no need to lie about the process because people don't care.
So that is the context, now back to exposing you for a fake.
There are many indicators, both technical and artistic, that this picture is a pastiche of 2 or more photos that have been automatically colourreduced, most probably using Project-1. Instead of pointing all of these out, which would be a lengthy process, I will simply show that your working stages have been fabricated. And to do that I don't need to go further than the first 5 frames.
So supposedly your creative process started with you doing several sketches of the head until you got it right. This would usually make sense, as the artist is trying to find the right shapes and volumes.
Only, UH-OH! If you overlay all of your 'sketches' on top of the final head, ALL of them align perfectly!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13732440/web/fake.gif
How is this possible, what does it mean? It means that you drew these sketches on top of the final image, once it has already been finished. That's why, no matter how wonky and different they look, they all align with the final image that is suposedly the product of a lengthy process of searching and refining.
So, from my past experience with all the other fakers we've seen here on PJ, and from their reactions once they have been outed, you have several options before you.
1. See the error of your ways and put your effort into obtaining actual skill rather then pretending
2. Be too embarrassed to post again.
3. Get 'insulted' and decide to take your 'talent' elsewhere, leaving PJ in shambles after a loss of such a seminal artist
4. Attempt to continue you deception, causing yourself even more shame. Usually this is done in a patronizing way, by casually laughing off the comments, pretending to have the level of skill others simply can't understand, and taking their disbelief as a compliment.
Most fakers go for 3 or 4.
So, what will it be?
Motrox: I take it you are not familiar with the fact that during the later hayday of the Amiga demoscene when scanners became a thing people would scan images, maybe comp a bunch together, retouch them a bit and then FAKE workstages to pretend they made everything from scratch or as an eyeballed copy.
I am sure iLKke can tell you some stories, seeing as he was around for that hayday of Amiga pixelart going to shit and not really being a thing anymore in the (tiny) Amige scene that is left.
You know, it's more than likely that the reason why this is still in public queue is exactly *because* the community has voted against it. Just keep that in mind. I'm not saying that's the case but it's likely the case.
It IS pretty interesting that as far as I can see, the piece satisfies all the guidelines set in the upload part, yet this has been here for a week and a half without being approved. It really doesn't motivate me to put up anything new if it's up to the moderator to decide what is and is not appropriate for the community, instead of letting the community decide.
He has the progress documented..What more can you ask?
Photoref is more of a moodboard, available here: http://i.imgur.com/ZOxzjyU.jpg
just saying, it is customary to link to photographic reference used
I don't know. I have my doubts based on the fact that the anatomy of the parts is very good but the placement of the ear is WAY off. It looks like the face is from one photo and the back ear/back of the head/body is from another one. Also that is one hella long neck right there.
- Because people on here, some at least are ignorant. -
This should be in. The wip is convincing enough for me. Great image
This looks very borderline on digital art vs. pixel art...
Yeah, I'm using photoshop, but no special brush settings. When doing c64 I usually start with a really crude sketch done in black and white or grayscale, just to get the basic idea down. Then I start using my wacom tablet to get some real detail in there. Then I go over the thing again, starting with a 3*3 pencil brush and going down to a 1*1 to add sufficient detail. I also use project one at times, to make sure that I'm not having too many colors in any of the 8*8 grids.
Great! What are you using? Photoshop? What kinda of brush, settings?
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Thank you, I intend to :)