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Quote theguy Replybullet Topic: robot
    Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:59am
any crits before putting it in the gallery

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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by theguy

any crits before putting it in the gallery

Yes, mae shure it doesnt look like some metal bomberman..
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:19pm
The body looks like it's just metallic play-dough kind of shaped into a humanoid blob. You never want something like that, and if you're making a robot, it's even worse. You should try giving it segments and less curves--make the joints sharply bent and show divisions so it looks more like a robot. The head could also use some more detail; shade and light the mouth instead of making it a line, and give the eyes something more interesting. Little lights, maybe? It'd add a color, but it would also break the monotony and add some life.
 
EDIT: Typo.


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RPG is numberwang.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:28pm
make it less rounded and make it altogether more life-like gotcha
 
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:51pm
i can hardly see any defining features...  eyes, mouth, etc
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:55pm

I guess more contrast would fix that

 
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any better?


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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 12:07pm
nope. it still doesn't look like a "robot" to me. just a random gray guy.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 12:11pm
any suggestions
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 12:14pm
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i can hardly see any defining features...  eyes, mouth, etc
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 1:53pm
I'm slightly confused, I can see the mouth and the eyes perfectly fine
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 2:46pm
Well basically, they're not quite obvious enough. Pixel sprites on this size scale usually need exaggerated and very obvious features in order to put their point across to the viewer quickly and easily.

Atm your sprite is quite jagged and 'messy' in places. I'm not sure what to suggest, but i'm sure you can figure it out! Good luck.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 2:52pm
you may be able to see them fine, but others may not.  every monitor and its settings are typically different.
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Quote zeid Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2007 at 9:16pm
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[OT]I saw the piece over on pixel, to bad the topic got closed before I got a proper edit in.[/OT]
An edit to show what everyone is talking about. This is designed to be on a light background. The only reason for the need for a bright background is the antenna set it as 1 mid tone colour if you want it to be designed for transparency.

What I have done
I redid the body. Before it was a blob now it looks segmented as you would expect to see for a robot.
The head was reworked. greater emphasis on the eyes and mouth was drawn by isolating them from darker pixels and expanding them. This gives a cute chibi look
The head width was reduced to look more natural and balanced.
As you can probably see the body was the most heavy rework. Use human anatomy to give an idea of how it should look in regards to forms to begin with. Then incorporate more mechanical aspects.


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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 2:37am
ok thanks I slighty based my robots structure off of yours slightly though
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3220/malfunctioningrobotsb4.gif
 
I have too link it now for some reason anyway is this version any better?
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Quote zeid Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 3:15am
(yours)+(mine)=(yours still needs work)
New one looks a bit better in a few ways but...
RAISE THE GOD DAMN CRUTCH!!!
when facing forward do both of your feet face out to the sides? because that is what his do according to this.
I segmented his body as it makes the blocky square like structure of his shape appear more acceptable. Furthermore design wise your robots head doesn't fit without a somewhat segmented body.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 3:31am
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6012/malfunctioningrobotsz1.gif
is mine any better now?
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:48am
is that hard to write [img.][/.img]?
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 1:16am
is thee any crits? and it wont let me post images for some reason
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 8:02am
Maybe the image BUTTON doesn't work for you, but the TAGS (just take the periods/full stops out of what metaru posted) will work even for a parapalegic, mentally challenged dwarf rat if it takes the time to use them.
 
As for the sprite, it's better in the latest update, but you need to kill the outlines. At this size, you can't get any detail that shows it's a robot in if you waste 2/3 of the space on the limbs on outlines. Shade them and show some more complex form, like what zeid did on the arms and chest. You also need some contrast to show the shininess on the metal--give him highlights anywhere the light would hit him, even on his left side.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 8:22am
Originally posted by theguy

is thee any crits? and it wont let me post images for some reason


zeid gave you a perfect example, try learning from it
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Quote zeid Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 11:03pm
I agree i think there is still more you can take from my edit. The legs in mine are only just an acceptable exaggerated shortness, yours should be longer.

The hips touching the hands looks wrong, it seems almost as though they are joined. Better portray the separations.

The new lighting you put in makes a lot of your character look flat. Mine isn't a good example of how this can be fixed. Really focus a little more on depth.


The main problem comes in the forms. They are really stiff because of the lack of segmentation. This makes your piece look more like a paper weight then a robot.


this is a new edit of your recent version. It deviates from the design less then my previous one. It should give you more of an idea of what direction to go with.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 6:53am

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1929/malfunctioningrobotqv3.gif

 

any better?

 
EDIT: tried the [IMG] tags didnt work


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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 7:07am
theguy, try clicking the button.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 7:18am
there is NO WAY they dont work for you, not even possible.  they work the same for everyone no matter the browser, os, computer, whatever.  they are server based.  read this, and if you still cant do it, there is no hope for you...  seriously, my little 12 year old brother can use it
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 8:12am
no I tried that (I did the IMG tags right as well) and when I click on the button it still doesnt work it says access denied
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 8:37am
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no I tried that (I did the IMG tags right as well) and when I click on the button it still doesnt work it says access denied

because you should not click the button after placing the image tags.. you should just place [img.]imageshack.com/sdfkljsdfg.jpg[/img.] and then press post reply and not that image button.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 8:39am
I didnt put the IMG tags first I tried the button first didnt work so I tried the IMG tags still didnt work can we just get on with the crits please?
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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:25am
Apologies for still going on about the image posting, but how did you get the images in your first few posts in this thread?
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:28am
I don't know why, but it just stopped working.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:33am


copy and paste this, remove the periods...
[img.]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1929/malfunctioningrobotqv3.gif[/img.]


Edited by Ensellitis - 04 June 2007 at 9:34am
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:36am

if it doesnt work I will, leave the tags there to prove it doesnt work
 
EDIT: why the hell did it work this time?


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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:38am
it works every time, like i said.  i am guaranteeing you just screwed it up somehow.  no spaces in it, no periods, JUST the url
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:17am
ok well anyway can I have some crits for it now?
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Quote dragonrc Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:49am
I did an edit to your robot:
I strongly suggest you change the pose or make an animation to make this more interresting.
I also think the legs are short.
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2007 at 11:17am
I did make an animation 52 frames of animation but then it all messed up and died and then I just made that... but I will make another but I'm wondering what to do
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