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Talos
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Topic: Just another WIP
Posted: 03 February 2008 at 5:56pm

Im starting to make a character I add in my writing, an elven girl/woman. (Yes I like writing)

Okay about half a year in the pixeling gig and I think I know why I'm lacking. I don't put wips up and I do the three noob steps 9 times out of ten:
Lines, Color, Shading.

(Big Vomit)
C+C please. I need help with anatomy, stance and the one thing I hate doing more than anything. Hair. Seriously if I really want to I can do animal manes, and fur... But long humanoid always looks weird when I do it.

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Blu
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Posted: 04 February 2008 at 6:10am

Mmk, here are some tips. :P

Her chest is way too big for her body, I'm sorry, but it is.

Really important question, if you're going for more realistic: Is she wearing a bra or anything to keep her chest kinda...supported?

Her center of balance is off (because I dont' think you want her to look like she's falling).

The head is a good shape, a tad bit too big, maybe? Depends on her muscle mass, but considering she seems to be fighting, her shoulders wouldn't be super tiny.

Also, thin out her neck and arms, make her shoulders a bit more refined...

The swords...the way she's holding them looks...painful, almost. >.o I'd consider posing, yourself, holding something (preferably something thin and long to match your wip. *nearly called it a doll* -_-;) in front of a mirror to see how you yourself look. (I'd try to get in that pose, too, if I were you, just so you can see the feet positions, too :))

Make her legs a little longer, along with her torso, and then, thus, her arms... Don't have her arms completely straight out, either, make her elbows more refined. :D

Either completely shift her body to the right, or reposition her(!) right leg.

Give her hips, boy! :P Just a few pixels out because of the size, though.

Look at the muscles in your legs. See where they are and apply that to the piece.

Humans are HARD, but you really are doing well so far. :D

And...I'll help you with the hair once you come to it. ;)

Edited by BluWriter - 04 February 2008 at 6:11am

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Talos
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Posted: 04 February 2008 at 6:55am

Thank you, though I may assure you that holding two swords at such an angle is not painful. At least not for me, but I guess I'm kinda applying my own fighting style to it. And medieval times don't have bras, though woman's armor (which was typically ceremonial) acted like that. She won't have platemail though, just som leather armor, which would also work like that. If I have time I'll fix these things after school.

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Blu
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Posted: 04 February 2008 at 3:22pm

Just saying because, er, there's a reason girls wear bras. :P

Good luck with it, it does look good so far. :D

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Talos
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Posted: 05 February 2008 at 3:39pm

Okay What of this?

She won't be holding the swords so generically when I'm done.

Edited by Talos - 05 February 2008 at 3:40pm

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Inventrix
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Posted: 05 February 2008 at 4:17pm

The shoulders could stand to be quite a bit narrower. The balance is good though. :)

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Talos
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Posted: 05 February 2008 at 6:05pm

Thank you. I had noticed in the last one that if someone had poked her she would have fallen over.

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Metaru
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Posted: 05 February 2008 at 7:40pm

i would use some rought shadowing and a good contrast to define every aspect of her features, since in such small space the attention to details is the key. the anatomy doesn't seem to be bad, and it appears to have a good/natural pose. if you have used references, would be a good idea to post the. if not, two or three will surely be of great help.

Here you migth find lots of exelent references for the pose with these swords. (warning nudity)

I ate leel's babies

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Serendor
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Posted: 06 February 2008 at 4:40am

Thanks a lot Metaru, thats a really amazing page, love it

just what I was searching for!

Thanks!

//Albin

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Talos
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Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:58am

She's not actually in battle, its a casual pose is all.

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Posted: 06 February 2008 at 1:00pm

I can see several jaggies, but presumably you will clear that up later.

Personally, I just make sure my pieces are without any jaggies in the first place, so no need to clean it up after.
The pose seems okay to me, but when you do the hands properly, make sure that you can see her left hand, but her right hand should stay like it is.
Kinda hard to explain - at the moment her left hand looks like it's some sort of backhand grip.
You probably already know this stuff, but a lot of people don't.

Of course, I'm not an expert on pixel art - far from it infact.
Anyway, when you colour and shade it, we will be able to crit more.

Oh, and my steps of pixelling are like that too.
Lines, Color, Shading...

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Blu
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Posted: 06 February 2008 at 3:43pm

The new one is definitely better.

Mm...

('Tis a rather quick edit, so, for the most part, just ignore her legs completely. I didn't add anything to them, but some of the pixels got out of place.)

Most notable thing I changed: Her legs are going more to the right than the rest of her body is.

Edited by BluWriter - 06 February 2008 at 3:43pm

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Talos Midshipman Joined: 24 January 2008 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 47	Topic: Just another WIP Posted: 03 February 2008 at 5:56pm
	Im starting to make a character I add in my writing, an elven girl/woman. (Yes I like writing) Okay about half a year in the pixeling gig and I think I know why I'm lacking. I don't put wips up and I do the three noob steps 9 times out of ten: Lines, Color, Shading.(Big Vomit) C+C please. I need help with anatomy, stance and the one thing I hate doing more than anything. Hair. Seriously if I really want to I can do animal manes, and fur... But long humanoid always looks weird when I do it.
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Blu Commander Joined: 23 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 208	Posted: 04 February 2008 at 6:10am
	Mmk, here are some tips. :P Her chest is way too big for her body, I'm sorry, but it is. Really important question, if you're going for more realistic: Is she wearing a bra or anything to keep her chest kinda...supported? Her center of balance is off (because I dont' think you want her to look like she's falling). The head is a good shape, a tad bit too big, maybe? Depends on her muscle mass, but considering she seems to be fighting, her shoulders wouldn't be super tiny. Also, thin out her neck and arms, make her shoulders a bit more refined... The swords...the way she's holding them looks...painful, almost. >.o I'd consider posing, yourself, holding something (preferably something thin and long to match your wip. nearly called it a doll -_-;) in front of a mirror to see how you yourself look. (I'd try to get in that pose, too, if I were you, just so you can see the feet positions, too :)) Make her legs a little longer, along with her torso, and then, thus, her arms... Don't have her arms completely straight out, either, make her elbows more refined. :D Either completely shift her body to the right, or reposition her(!) right leg. Give her hips, boy! :P Just a few pixels out because of the size, though. Look at the muscles in your legs. See where they are and apply that to the piece. Humans are HARD, but you really are doing well so far. :D And...I'll help you with the hair once you come to it. ;) Edited by BluWriter - 04 February 2008 at 6:11am
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Talos Midshipman Joined: 24 January 2008 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 47	Posted: 04 February 2008 at 6:55am
	Thank you, though I may assure you that holding two swords at such an angle is not painful. At least not for me, but I guess I'm kinda applying my own fighting style to it. And medieval times don't have bras, though woman's armor (which was typically ceremonial) acted like that. She won't have platemail though, just som leather armor, which would also work like that. If I have time I'll fix these things after school.
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Blu Commander Joined: 23 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 208	Posted: 04 February 2008 at 3:22pm
	Just saying because, er, there's a reason girls wear bras. :P Good luck with it, it does look good so far. :D
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Talos Midshipman Joined: 24 January 2008 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 47	Posted: 05 February 2008 at 3:39pm
	Okay What of this? She won't be holding the swords so generically when I'm done. Edited by Talos - 05 February 2008 at 3:40pm
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Inventrix Midshipman Joined: 01 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 77	Posted: 05 February 2008 at 4:17pm
	The shoulders could stand to be quite a bit narrower. The balance is good though. :)
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Talos Midshipman Joined: 24 January 2008 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 47	Posted: 05 February 2008 at 6:05pm
	Thank you. I had noticed in the last one that if someone had poked her she would have fallen over.
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Metaru Commander Joined: 28 December 2025 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3305	Posted: 05 February 2008 at 7:40pm
	i would use some rought shadowing and a good contrast to define every aspect of her features, since in such small space the attention to details is the key. the anatomy doesn't seem to be bad, and it appears to have a good/natural pose. if you have used references, would be a good idea to post the. if not, two or three will surely be of great help. Here you migth find lots of exelent references for the pose with these swords. (warning nudity)
	I ate leel's babies
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Serendor Midshipman Joined: 27 February 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 79	Posted: 06 February 2008 at 4:40am
	Thanks a lot Metaru, thats a really amazing page, love it just what I was searching for! Thanks! //Albin
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Talos Midshipman Joined: 24 January 2008 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 47	Posted: 06 February 2008 at 9:58am
	She's not actually in battle, its a casual pose is all.
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Shrub Midshipman Joined: 22 January 2008 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Posted: 06 February 2008 at 1:00pm
	I can see several jaggies, but presumably you will clear that up later. Personally, I just make sure my pieces are without any jaggies in the first place, so no need to clean it up after. The pose seems okay to me, but when you do the hands properly, make sure that you can see her left hand, but her right hand should stay like it is. Kinda hard to explain - at the moment her left hand looks like it's some sort of backhand grip. You probably already know this stuff, but a lot of people don't. Of course, I'm not an expert on pixel art - far from it infact. Anyway, when you colour and shade it, we will be able to crit more. Oh, and my steps of pixelling are like that too. Lines, Color, Shading...
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Blu Commander Joined: 23 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 208	Posted: 06 February 2008 at 3:43pm
	The new one is definitely better. Mm... ('Tis a rather quick edit, so, for the most part, just ignore her legs completely. I didn't add anything to them, but some of the pixels got out of place.) Most notable thing I changed: Her legs are going more to the right than the rest of her body is. Edited by BluWriter - 06 February 2008 at 3:43pm
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