can anyone help me with that picture i don't know what to do else
plz help me edit it.   that's What it looks like

Please save your art as a gif or png8 file and post that. jpegs and pixelart do not work together.

Though there's nothing wrong with fooling around with perspectives, I'd advise you to try doing your first pixel buidings in ISO. At the moment your work looks pretty much horrible, no offence. The windows aren't in perspective, your light source makes it seem like you have two suns. Also I have no idea why you have dark spots in the shadow for windows. The trees are ok, but feel a tad flat. Also, at the moment it looks like the road is coming from way below the yard of the hotel(?).

I really like the playground though, even though you forgot to remove the whites.

Iso(metric) tutorials:
http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/guest/pixel/pixel.html
http://www.drububu.com/tutorial/index.html

Iso shadow tutorial(basic):
http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/guest/cube/cube.html

Also, study these lines, they're important for your first iso piece. Straight lines are very important in buildings, especially in iso pieces.


Your piece has potential, now get back to work! (:



Edited by smk - 04 June 2009 at 1:47am

i made a lil arrangement on it because my pc is old now and keep on shutting down ok
 and how should i do  the road so that it does not look like its coming from way below.  http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt107/wenruto/FIRSTSCHOOL2.png

If your PC is shutting down, better backup all your files that you can't find on Internet (texts you written, photos you made etc.) as soon as possible, or it will be too late.

there i made some arrangement and i am still working on the windows
no more thing to do ?



Edited by wenruto - 05 June 2009 at 4:01pm

Your shadows go in three different directions :(

thank you guys

(Excuse the delayed response, I know you've moved on, but I've been working on my reply/edit for a bit, whilst having some trouble with it.)

You're saving in .JPEG again, that's a big no-no. =[
(Or you're saving in .BMP, in which case photobucket is converting it to .JPEG. Just use PNG, you should be fine. =])

Well, I took some time to demonstrate some more fundamental issues that you have. Allow me to scribble over your picture once more.



Right now, you have a lot of conflicting angles. They suggest different perspectives, or a lack of a solid perspective, thereof. (Or crappy architecture.)

Your shadows still aren't fixed. They're all pointing in a similar direction, but not the same. You can fix this, simply by making sure the casting angles are the same, for your building, check the lines, since they're not organic.

Like was mentioned before, your building is skewed. It's not fitting properly into the space. If you visualize it in 3D (which is always a good practice.) It would be jutting out of the park in the corner, although you can't actually see it, but the lines suggest it does. Related, both sections of your building aren't lining up either, and are at slightly different angles.

Your windows are a leap of improvement from your first version, but are  still not properly aligned.



In this edit, I used a proper (to the best of my ability, I've never done iso before) isometric perspective, and after properly constructing I also modified and added a few things that I would think would add a little interest. Such as, a parking lot, rails and border on the roof, walkways, etc.

You can use/study this base/edit if you'd like. You can see that everything is aligned.

At this point of construction, it's all about the line work, and making sure the angles are correct. I really think you should work on them, make sure you get everything neat and tidy, and that everything is consistent. Before you think about adding any details, or other fundamentals, like shadows.

Take each a step at a time, you'll be sure to improve.

Your trees are still very flat, by the way. Show some highlights and shadows, and make sure they contrast, so they're visible.

Oh and you don't have to succumb to jaggy lines. (Even without jpeggin' your pic!) I would advise you to research Anti-Aliasing. Apply a method like this to your pics, granted you do it in moderation, and they will be sure to be a lot more pleasant.



Long posts ftw. Hope I helped. =]
And keep up the good work, looking forward to seeing you improve.


Edited by Dr D - 08 June 2009 at 5:51pm

@ Dr. D: haha. thanks too. you taught me something. :)

Nice explanation Dr D :)!

do i only have to work on the shadows or the building?

since it came to this i have started to make a new one

A lot better, keep it coming.

The door at the lower center could though be nearer to the middle, unless you want it the way it is, that's fine. Also the doors on the roof could perhaps be a tad lower.

ok did what you said and i came up with that and the thing in the top is some kind of animated billboard electric that i am trying to make that

sorry about that

This could be turned into a useful tutorial - I am enjoying it and I've already learned some new things.  Keep it up please.

The first thing I notice is the rail on the roof. It is on the left side different placed than on the right side, but maybe you did that intentionally.?

other than that?

i know i took some time with that but i came up with that for now because i am working on other pieces

what's with this newest image? it went straight downhill, the perspective isn't even right. i'd recommend you focus on one project right now.

The railing on the roof goes off it's usual track in one spot (the corner just to the left of the box on the roof on the right).

There are many things to fix:

THE RAILING IS NOT CONSISTENT.

Sorry, but you've been ignoring that point and it should really be fixed. D:


I'd also suggest dropping the saturation on everything. The black and grays are the only tones that don't blind me. :P

Also:

1. The walkway to the building needs texture.
2. The building only has shading on the sides. Where the orange indents into the blue wall, there's no shading. With your light source, a small shadow would be cast.
3. Same goes for the boxes on the roofs, the ground out to the right of the building, etc.
4. Your grass needs texture. It's just a blob of green right now and doesn't look too good. D:

Sorry if I'm coming off as rude, but you've kinda' brushed off a lot of the helpful tips, advice, etc. posted in this thread. D:

You could do so much more, you've come a long way since your first version, and I'm proud of you, but you have a long way to go and a lot to learn.

Currently, it looks more like a flat-shaded construction for a piece, than a piece that is even close to being finished itself. You need detail on everything. You don't have to make it realistic, if you don't want to, but even simplistic styles have a decent amount of detail. In fact, I'd say it's the unique rendering of the important details in simplistic styles that makes them work.

Like Angel said, you should probably try out adding some textures (first) and shadows (after) to the piece. Don't worry if you do horrible, we'll help you along. Just keep in mind your lightsource (choose one if you haven't already) and shade accordingly.

I think you should try to apply some texture/detail to pretty much everything, give the cement/asphalt some cracks, show some of the roughness, perhaps, the erosion that has taken place. Maybe you want to add markings to show where to drive/park/walk, and curbs.

Show some of the wear and tear on the building, as well. Again, cracks and stains work wonders. But you could also decorate it, pipes running down the sides of the wall. Perhaps you need to change the design to a little bit more something intricate, if you feel you are ready enough for that. Most buildings, such as schools are a little more than perfect boxes attached to each other, just look up some references if you need refreshing.

And everything else, a lot of greenery actually never hurt anyone, make some trees, flowers, and bushes, etc. to decorate the outside of the school. Some parked cars, and students walking/conversing/doing whatever. Make the scene come to life.

You could also try out some of that AA I was telling you about (once you're done doing everything else.)

I edit it and i don't know if the grass is ok the way i did it, if not show me how plz