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Quote karlneil Replybullet Topic: WIP Gaggia Evoluzione XD
    Posted: 06 July 2009 at 4:05am
please help me make the best of this picture by commenting. http://karlneil.deviantart.com/art/Gaggia-Evoluzione-XD-128463948
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 6:10am
I strongly recommend you link to the image directly by putting the url in [img][/img] tags, because a) this forum has a zoom feature which allows people to blow your image up several hundred percent and analyze it on the pixel level, and b) the easier you make it to view the image, the more likely people will be to respond.

Select the address, copy it, open a new browser window, paste the address, squint at the tiny image, change browser window, begin writing reply, switch back, squint some more... see what I mean?
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 6:57am

ok, got the picture


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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 7:02am
You used a photoshop filter on the floor and walls, from what I can see. You also used transparency on that table. This is not pixel art. Jut letting you know P:
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 7:03am
everything apart from transparency is hand pixeled
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Quote AngelOTG Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 2:57pm
At 1,288 colors yet still a PNG, I highly doubt that...
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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 06 July 2009 at 4:41pm
Its because of the filters.
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 6:08am
ok just finished a coffee grinder. http://vimeo.com/5489565
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Quote ellie-is Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 6:29am
From what I see here, you used gradients and all your shapes arent done by hand? Thats not how pixel art should be done... Its okay if you want to call that a hybrid, but still...
From my point of view, pixel art is carefully placing each pixel where it is supposed to be, instead of using filters and gradients to get the effects you want.
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 6:36am
i did not use gradients, i did it by hand.
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Quote slym Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 11:37am
Don't be rediculous. It is extremely obvious you have used filters. You can either remove the filters, and actually do this piece using a pencil tool, or you will have to deal with the next posts which will probably end up flaming you for using filters.
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 12:14pm
exept the transparency there are honestly no filters and i can prove it too. only look at the espresso machine  , the pitcher and cup. floor and walls are temporary.


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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 12:55pm

the counter will be replaced. i need constructive crits not yelling that its not pixelart and you use gradients and whatnot. only ps effect i use is transparency.


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Quote slym Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:32pm
Its more so the fact that you are clearly lying that these are not using any filters besides opacity. If you just let us know that you understand that you did use filters, then I would assume most of us would let this go faster. That is it for my replies, I don't want to argue since there is no reason to over such an obvious one way arguement.
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:37pm
please point out what other filter do you mean and where on the picture
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:41pm
Jeez, what's with all the hostility?

Originally posted by karlneil

please point out what other filter do you mean and where on the picture

Yeah, please do. I don't see anything that doesn't look hand-pixelled cept the trans and the lingering floor pattern that's a part of the rectangular table. Which, karlneal, you say is made by hand anyway. Can you describe your method? It seems like it'd take an eternity without a spraycan tool or tiling.

Anyhow, trans is OK here, but it won't get into the gallery. Just FYI.

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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:46pm
the counter uses noise filter but is only temporary because a new counter is underway and be finished soon. today i already replaced the floor.


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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:57pm
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. I think that's what everyone was yelling at you about, because you said "everything apart from transparency is hand pixeled" after lucas_irineu specifically mentioned the texture on the floor and walls.

Ah well, water under the bridge. Just be sure to be honest and upfront about your methods in the future. Unless you like getting yelled at :D
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 2:11pm

counter should now be acceptable.

can we finally count it settled, slym and lucas?


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Quote UnHated Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 3:48pm
Something is wrong with that table, it appears to be hovering instead of on the ground, I would re-work its perspective to make it correlate with the other images. 
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2009 at 10:47am
updated. see next post


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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2009 at 10:52am
Looking good. Remember that walls usually have a baseboard at the bottom rather than just going straight into the floor.

[EDIT] Also, the shadow from the round table is all wrong on the wall.

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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2009 at 10:54am
also make sure to use a different color on the inside wall of that window so you can tell it's a different plane. shadow below the table doesn't quite make sense, the shadow should bend at the wall
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2009 at 11:09am
quick edit. could someone tell me how to do a table shadow




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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 08 July 2009 at 11:59am
like a foreshortened circle that bends at the wall. just know where your lightsource is (not sure you have one, judging by the lighting of the various elements) and shade accordingly.
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2009 at 2:24am

is the shadow starting to look better, yes i know i used transform on it


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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 5:13am

speakers are the Bose® 301® Series V

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Quote AngelOTG Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 9:11am
You used so many unique colors just for that tiny star in the painting!

I really like the floor pieces where they change colors. I'd incorporate them into all the floor panels. Just some random arrangement of them in a non-pattern to add a lot of asymmetrical interest to the piece. It would be very nice in my opinion. :3
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 10:45am

any ideas of what objects could be added


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Quote asukicco Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 1:19pm
I think some coffee's paper kleenex dispensers like in the 80s would fit well. Did not find any pics on google.
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Quote UnHated Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 2:11pm
I don't know dude, it must be me or something but it seems like your chairs, and table are in the air. It might be the perspective/lack of shadows it give off or something. 
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 11:14pm
It's begging for a potted plant or hat rack or umbrella stand or something in that corner by the door. Nice work so far :D

Also, the shadow from the table should be on the stand for the table as well.

@UnHated: Everything appears to be in proper perspective.
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Quote AngelOTG Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2009 at 12:17am
The tables do have an error.

The space from the floor to where the bottom of the window sill would be is 101 pixels. The table is (from the bottom of the stand to the very underside of the top) approximately 95 pixels (I may be off with where I counted from; but it's close to that).

So, the tables should be under the sill. I'd suggest simply raising it (the sill) about 10 or 15 pixels to compensate. :3


[Edit]

Or, haha, just moving the table away from the sill a few pixels. :P


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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2009 at 2:20am



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Quote UnHated Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2009 at 5:11am
I think it is the light source that threw me off, if you look at the tables stand you can see that the light is coming from the right, then you look at that machine the big one, the light is coming from the front. Look at the table next to it, and the light is back to be coming from the right. I think that's what made it seem weird. 
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Quote karlneil Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2009 at 9:23am
tried to fix the lightning a bit


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Quote Reuben Replybullet Posted: 18 July 2009 at 2:00am
only the tables have shadows

may I recommend adding shadows  to all the objects to make it a lil more realistic
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Quote wenruto Replybullet Posted: 18 July 2009 at 3:26pm
the shadow for the plant on the right near the laptop is upside down i think
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