Pixel Joint Forum: starting a mockup

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Walrus
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Topic: starting a mockup
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:30pm

its still a very much wip...

its still only the bg...
any cc wanted!
edits are very welcomed too..

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A.B. Lazer
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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:36pm

Rocks have no outline and are shaded, torches have outline and not shaded -> shade torches.

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Walrus
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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:43pm

the torches are placeholders, i will detail them later.
please comment on the rocks. :p

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A.B. Lazer
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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:07pm

You can't really say anything about background until there would be some characters against it - how they will read and such. Now looks quite good.

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Manupix
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Posted: 13 October 2009 at 6:32pm

I think this lighting option will be too difficult to accommodate for a mockup. I'd suggest to limit it to the near vicinity of the torches, which will give the atmosphere you're after, and have a general lighting elsewhere.

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Walrus
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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 4:24am

i guess you are right...
here's an edit:

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Dhr. Bosch
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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 9:26am

the differance in rock placement on the wall verus the lighted area makes it seem like the torches are in a niche. the your update fixed this a litle but it still looks kinda strange. i'd say: either make it a true niche and make that clear somehow or fix the rock placement

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Manupix
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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 3:01pm

Agree with Dhr Bosch.
Edit, using the actual stone placement:

Except in the closest points to the torch, light will be strongly lateral: only the side of stones turned towards the torch will be lit, and they will cast shadows on the jointing.
Also, lighting is in proportion to distance squared. Meaning: it drops very quickly, even more than in my edit.

I don't like the colors I introduced in the jointings, they have to stand out against the rocks, but this greenish brown is ugly.
What about not having jointings?

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Walrus
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Posted: 14 October 2009 at 3:50pm

thank for your comments guys, you are bringing up very good points.
but i made a big mistake from the begining - i didnt make tiles... which make it not game-ish, so it kinda loses the whole point

i like the idea of not having jointings...
expect an updated version tommorow

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Walrus Midshipman Joined: 22 December 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Topic: starting a mockup Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:30pm
	its still a very much wip... its still only the bg... any cc wanted! edits are very welcomed too..
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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:36pm
	Rocks have no outline and are shaded, torches have outline and not shaded -> shade torches.
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Walrus Midshipman Joined: 22 December 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 2:43pm
	the torches are placeholders, i will detail them later. please comment on the rocks. :p
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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:07pm
	You can't really say anything about background until there would be some characters against it - how they will read and such. Now looks quite good.
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Manupix Commander Joined: 07 May 2026 Online Status: Offline Posts: 771	Posted: 13 October 2009 at 6:32pm
	I think this lighting option will be too difficult to accommodate for a mockup. I'd suggest to limit it to the near vicinity of the torches, which will give the atmosphere you're after, and have a general lighting elsewhere.
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Walrus Midshipman Joined: 22 December 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 4:24am
	i guess you are right... here's an edit:
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Dhr. Bosch Commander Joined: 01 February 2016 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 215	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 9:26am
	the differance in rock placement on the wall verus the lighted area makes it seem like the torches are in a niche. the your update fixed this a litle but it still looks kinda strange. i'd say: either make it a true niche and make that clear somehow or fix the rock placement
	Vanitas, vanitatum omnia vanitas
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Manupix Commander Joined: 07 May 2026 Online Status: Offline Posts: 771	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 3:01pm
	Agree with Dhr Bosch. Edit, using the actual stone placement: Except in the closest points to the torch, light will be strongly lateral: only the side of stones turned towards the torch will be lit, and they will cast shadows on the jointing. Also, lighting is in proportion to distance squared. Meaning: it drops very quickly, even more than in my edit. I don't like the colors I introduced in the jointings, they have to stand out against the rocks, but this greenish brown is ugly. What about not having jointings?
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Walrus Midshipman Joined: 22 December 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 14 October 2009 at 3:50pm
	thank for your comments guys, you are bringing up very good points. but i made a big mistake from the begining - i didnt make tiles... which make it not game-ish, so it kinda loses the whole point i like the idea of not having jointings... expect an updated version tommorow
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