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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 12 February 2010 at 6:13pm
Ok, how about something like this? Which one is better? Oh, yea what exactly do you mean roughen up? Like add some grass, or something like that?
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Or this:




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Quote Manupix Replybullet Posted: 12 February 2010 at 9:48pm
First one.

The line of trees at the far back is far too dark. It gets hazy back there: those tones cannot be as dark as in the foreground.

The lowest tree of the slope forest is overhanging the water in a weird way.
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 12 February 2010 at 9:58pm
Ok edited just a tad. The background trees, and worked on the overhanging tree thing. Tell me if I need to trim it back some more.

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Quote Ninja Crow Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 3:21am
Originally posted by Kenpokis

Oh, yea what exactly do you mean roughen up? Like add some grass, or something like that?
Yes, that's what I was thinking - whatever you feel would give it something besides a perfectly straight line.

I like that rightside tree highlight.

Originally posted by Manupix

The line of trees at the far back is far too dark. It gets hazy back there: those tones cannot be as dark as in the foreground.
I like that idea, M, but I don't know enough about landscape painting to know if the latest version is accurate enough - is it just a bit too hard to read that it's a line of trees now?  Maybe a bluer shade (like the one next to the dark green in the trees) rather than a paler one?
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Quote jeremy Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 3:35am
Not a lot has been changed in your last few renditions. Try making a couple of different colour edits, loosen it up and try a paintover like jal, iggy, Manu and myself have all done. The great thing about digital art is that if you royally screw up you can go back!
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 10:50am
OK I messed around with the sky, sort of like jalanso's edit, except not nearly as nice. I think it will look pretty cool once I clean it up. Any tips on how to make it look better?

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Quote Ninja Crow Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 12:44pm
Well, the thing that jumps out at me is that the lines you've added to the sky seem to sag at the right edge (past the birds).

You may also not be able to mix the dithering at the top with the texturing.

I don't know if this will work, but the thought occurred to me that it might look cool to have the colours change from top to bottom (or bottom to top as the case may be).  Jalonso had gray to blue, and Jeremy had blue to white, for examples.  I wouldn't know without trying it, though - what do you think?
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 4:33pm
Got rid of dithering, did this in about a minute, so really sloppy. Anyways, just to get a general idea down, what do you guys think?

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Quote wenruto Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 4:55pm
Looks Kinda Clear and neat comparing to your old ones.. I think It was a good idea removing The ditherings....... you can almost see the  though
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Quote Manupix Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 6:00pm
Well, it goes with skies as with trees and mountains: they come in many fashions, and straight out of your head is not one of them. You should know by now ;)

The faraway tree line is now too light! The scene is backlit: so those trees should be darker than the ground they're on. The dark olive tone you have in those few pixels beneath would work, I think. It might also be used to soften the earth/grass transitions, esp on the left side.
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 7:41pm
Here is a real sloppy edit. Kinda tired. The sky needs some smoothing out. I think once I add the other colors in, it will be fine. Hopefully.




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Quote Impaled Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 8:11pm
The sky looks like random maybe as you say smoothing out there will go fine.

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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 13 February 2010 at 9:33pm
lol that's because it is. I basically scribbled. I think i'll take another go at this tomorrow. I kind of liked it with a simple style, so maybe just throw in a few small clouds, instead of a sky full.
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Quote Manupix Replybullet Posted: 14 February 2010 at 5:43am
Well, it goes with skies as with trees and mountains: they come in many fashions, and straight out of your head is not one of them. You should know by now ;)


Meaning: check some refs!
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 14 February 2010 at 10:47am
Haha, you would think I would pick up on this, but that would mean I would have to be smart! I'll look at some refs then try again.
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Quote Robinhood Replybullet Posted: 14 February 2010 at 10:59am
Keep trying, its getting better and better :D

I admire your perseverance.
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 14 February 2010 at 1:45pm
Alright I was going for more of a simple cloud style, (if you wanna call it that) It's not as busy, but it still needs some work. Hopefully I can get the sky done with and finish up with the frame. Can't believe how much i've learned on this piece. Thanks to all of you for you patience and help.

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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 16 February 2010 at 3:34pm
Working on the frame texture. Added a little AA.

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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 17 February 2010 at 4:01pm
Almost done, not sure what to do with the corners. Can't find a reference similar to it. Hope to get this done today. Woot thanks all.

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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 18 February 2010 at 10:31pm
I'm calling this done. Thanks to all that helped me. I know it's not great, but it's a heck of a lot better than what I could have done by myself. Thanks guys.

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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 18 February 2010 at 11:22pm
Great job and great dedication. Looking forward to seeing this in the gallery!
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Quote Pixelarg Replybullet Posted: 24 February 2010 at 5:13pm


Little edit :B
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 24 February 2010 at 5:41pm
lol thanks?
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Quote Niagareven Replybullet Posted: 27 February 2010 at 7:11am
I read this so intently my eyes feel dry. o.o

I am new to everything pixelart as well as pixeljoint so I feel very shy. This thread is so informative and helpful that I feel a little closer to everyone. That's kind of sappy, but true. Kenpokis, your dedication really is inspiring.

Now if only all this sappy would make my eyes water. O.O
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Quote X Colin Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2010 at 9:47am
Here's my critiques for it.  Just seeing if you like them.




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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 07 March 2010 at 10:43am
Thanks for the edit.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 09 March 2010 at 4:18pm
This progress has most deffinitaly inspired me to start pixel art again.
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Quote kenpokis Replybullet Posted: 09 March 2010 at 4:27pm
Ah glad to hear! Love to help out the community through my learning progress.
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