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Posted: 21 August 2010 at 11:23pm

Need a little help. D:

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Posted: 22 August 2010 at 6:16am

You need to change the palette a bit:

-higher contrast
-bit different hues, a lot more towards green

-get some more volume/ into it, make it look rounder
-try to get some transparency effect in there:

Things like showing stuff on the other side of the shape (like Waldmeister's lederhosen) and small bubbles usually work nice.

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Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:38am

How do I go about doing transparency? I know MS Paint 7 doesn't have transparency and I don't know how to use Graphics Gale. :(

EDIT: I just noticed my "water" dragon sort of looks like ice. D:

Edited by Lengen - 22 August 2010 at 9:39am

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Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:58am

the transparency tool is kinda taboo in pixel art, the transparent effects you see in the examples provided by snader were done by hand. you just think about what's on the other side and let it come through a bit, just like in any traditional medium.

and it looks like ice because the palette is varying shades of light blue + white, more contrast and greener tints will help.

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Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:03am

Yeah, but I can't really assume what's on the other side because it's an attack for a game, so using transparency tools is all I can do.

EDIT: Got around to changing the palette;

Edited by Lengen - 22 August 2010 at 7:43pm

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Posted: 24 August 2010 at 3:34pm

^ Bump!

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Posted: 24 August 2010 at 3:48pm

palette looks better could use more hue shifting imo, rather than variations of the same bluegreen. and the examples snader give don't show stuff on the other side so much as show their other side, the underbellies/backsides/bases

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 5:48am

Is their a program that I can use to easily change the palette? It was kind of hard in Paint. D:

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:16am

It is very easy with paint. Just select the color you wish to change with your left mouse button and the color you wish to replace it with the right button. Then select the eraser and start to erase but with your right button and it changes the colors. :) If you did not understand, then maybe someone else will explain it better :)

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:22am

That's all manual, there's gotta be an easier way.

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:23am

Pixelart IS all manual :p

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:26am

Well, there's always color cycling. But that's done with a program.

It can turn out really good, though! Just gotta know a thing or two about 2D graphics coding. :)
http://www.effectgames.com/effect/article.psp.html/joe/Old_School_Color_Cycling_with_HTML5

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Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:30am

I think Byond Dream Maker has a palette swapper. I understand Pixel Art is all manual, but things can be made easier with a palette swapping program.

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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Topic: Water Dragon Posted: 21 August 2010 at 11:23pm
	Need a little help. D:
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PixelSnader Commander Not a troll! Joined: 21 May 2026 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194	Posted: 22 August 2010 at 6:16am
	You need to change the palette a bit: -higher contrast -bit different hues, a lot more towards green -get some more volume/ into it, make it look rounder -try to get some transparency effect in there: Things like showing stuff on the other side of the shape (like Waldmeister's lederhosen) and small bubbles usually work nice.
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:38am
	How do I go about doing transparency? I know MS Paint 7 doesn't have transparency and I don't know how to use Graphics Gale. :( EDIT: I just noticed my "water" dragon sort of looks like ice. D: Edited by Lengen - 22 August 2010 at 9:39am
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cure Commander Joined: 23 March 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2859	Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:58am
	the transparency tool is kinda taboo in pixel art, the transparent effects you see in the examples provided by snader were done by hand. you just think about what's on the other side and let it come through a bit, just like in any traditional medium. and it looks like ice because the palette is varying shades of light blue + white, more contrast and greener tints will help.
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:03am
	Yeah, but I can't really assume what's on the other side because it's an attack for a game, so using transparency tools is all I can do. EDIT: Got around to changing the palette; Edited by Lengen - 22 August 2010 at 7:43pm
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 24 August 2010 at 3:34pm
	^ Bump!
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cure Commander Joined: 23 March 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2859	Posted: 24 August 2010 at 3:48pm
	palette looks better could use more hue shifting imo, rather than variations of the same bluegreen. and the examples snader give don't show stuff on the other side so much as show their other side, the underbellies/backsides/bases
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 5:48am
	Is their a program that I can use to easily change the palette? It was kind of hard in Paint. D:
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tormi1000 Seaman Joined: 09 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 38	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:16am
	It is very easy with paint. Just select the color you wish to change with your left mouse button and the color you wish to replace it with the right button. Then select the eraser and start to erase but with your right button and it changes the colors. :) If you did not understand, then maybe someone else will explain it better :)
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:22am
	That's all manual, there's gotta be an easier way.
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jalonso Admiral Joined: 29 November 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13537	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:23am
	Pixelart IS all manual :p
	PJs FAQ <•> Sticky Reads
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CryptoQuick Seaman Joined: 16 June 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:26am
	Well, there's always color cycling. But that's done with a program. It can turn out really good, though! Just gotta know a thing or two about 2D graphics coding. :) http://www.effectgames.com/effect/article.psp.html/joe/Old_School_Color_Cycling_with_HTML5
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Lengen Seaman Joined: 20 March 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 25 August 2010 at 6:30am
	I think Byond Dream Maker has a palette swapper. I understand Pixel Art is all manual, but things can be made easier with a palette swapping program.
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