Hi, I'm cele and I'm kinda new to pixel stuff...I really adore it, but now i actually tried.
Anyway, I just made a sketch...I'm kinda stuck there.
I made a sketch of a mouse/rat...
I don't know if that's a good start...yes, how should i  finish it, in case no; how should I start?

here you go




Edited by cele1989 - 28 July 2006 at 11:17am

Make the lines 1 pixel thin.
That way you have a good line art to work with.

Hey Skull, show her that tutorial you've got.
I mean it doesn't tell you how to do shading and such but it will show her the stages some artists go through when making art.

And then if she gets stuck we can either help her through it or link to new tutorial for her problem.

Hi, I tried to clean the lines...
I think the outline is almost okay now...Not?
According to me it's not a hundred procent good, I have seen a lot of pixel work...I obsessed you could say...:p but i never made something decent :s
anyway...
if you've got some tips for me...i would like to hear them...
1 for a more better outline
2 for the colour and the awsome effect... - I wonder if I will be able to get it that beautifull :? Is it hard to do so?

Anyway...here's the "cleaned" outline



btw: isn't the picture to big?



Edited by cele1989 - 28 July 2006 at 12:52pm

I think i did the outline like i wanted it to be...now I'm wondering how I can give it a colour and a nice hairy effect. any ideas/tuts/tips?

thanx

This is good (and cute!) but I'd seriously consider setting it aside for now. Do some smaller pieces first. They'll go much faster than this would, and you'll learn a lot in the process.

hi, I made the sketch first, but it was quite big. So I resized the sketch and cleaned the lines again. I also did change some details, i didn't like so much (such as the tial, the to sharp arms etc.)
I like to wor with this one because i really like it ^^
I hope you can help me with the colouring...because...that's the hardest part (i think)




Edited by cele1989 - 29 July 2006 at 8:12am

I think thats a better size. Start throwing some basic shading in now. This will let you know if any area of the lineart should be modified. I suggest big areas of color to create dimension, then go to detailing.

http://www.spriteart.com

there are many styles of shading, i believe that  http://www.spriteart.com only shows you one style.
 if you search through others works you will find thingd such as

dithering
ex: http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/1868.htm?sec=rating#

semi gradient
ex: http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/2108.htm#

rectangle
ex:http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/10664.htm

lines
ex:http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/1865.htm
ex:http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12759.htm

cartoon
ex:http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/3108.htm

metal (there are a lot of ways to do this)
ex:http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/6701.htm
link:http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~s-iga/tips/2-3metallic_objects.html

there is much more; you have to find the one you like.

I was looking around the forum, and realized that throughout the years I've started up a lot of works in progress. Most of them still are work in progress, without any progress lately. Only 3 of them where gallery-worthy. So I figured to finally finish some things I started. I think the best way to do this is to open up old topics, because I think it is nice to see the progres of one particular piece of art from zero to hero ghaha... ;-)
I don't know if it is a good idea, considering the nettiquette, to open up an ancient old topic, so forgive me for doing so, but this is about the same rat...
Tried some color on it for the first time within five years...LOL


I need some advise on the texture of fur...please???



Edited by cele1989 - 25 July 2011 at 8:30pm

wow, cool edit... :D

are you using references? rats usually have thicker tails that start a bit lower on the rump, and more elongated skulls. the arms are a bit long and have a bit too much shoulder too them. I feel we should see more of the near foot from this angle.

also, you should work from your own pixel. take what onek taught you with his edit and apply it to your own work, don't take his actual work, you learn nothing that way.


Edited by cure - 26 July 2011 at 10:18am

@cure: I remember that at the time I did the sketch I had a reference. It was a cute rat from a fairytalebook. But at the moment I'm afraid the same book is in the attic somewhere....I do remember it was a brown rat. But it looked like a good idea to me to make it an albino, but after the edit of Onek I changed my mind LOL... I'm sorry for editing Onek's work, but I couldn't do better myself...but indeed practice makes perfect. I'll make a new one, but it is hard not to get tempted with such a wonderfull edit...:-) I just was curious how it would look like, when more detailed...:-P

@vlad61: Yes this topic is 5 years old...I never finished this piece...so it's about time...


Edited by cele1989 - 26 July 2011 at 3:38pm

Actually, if you changed the lightest brown to a slightly more darker brown I think i'd like it better than the previous edit.

@Cure & H|F: Mouse is okay with me...
I just thought the picture in the book was cute, I have no idea if it were a rat or mouse LOL...

@Loonybin: Thanks... :D, and I'll change the highlights ;-)

Edited by cele1989 - 27 July 2011 at 3:42am

Update:

I don't like this new tail!

@Alex Pang & Frost Butt: the thing I like about the people here, is that the critics are very positive. Don't get me wrong, I don't have problems with people pointing out my wrongs. But "I don't like this or I don't like that" won't get me anywhere. Suggesting new ideas might....So please add something instead of bringing my confidence down. I don't consider this nice...

P.s.: appearantly there are people who do like the browns. Some things are just a mather of taste ;-)

Appologies accepted ;-). Just the colors, no problem, but don't you touch my precious mouse ;-)

Oh, and about the tail, you mean the shape or the colors???


Edited by cele1989 - 27 July 2011 at 2:51pm

hmm... I thing I see what you mean...I could try to change it and see how it works out ;-)

one thing, its leg is in shadows, so its not supposed to shine. I would go around the gallery to see examples fr fur or just google. :)

Well, if you said this in the first place, I could have looked at the sections... If you say you don't like it, I don't know WHY you don't like it and I don't know what you want me to improve.

Anyway...
I already gave the fur a go...


Can I consider this one done?
I'm getting so tired of working on a single piece for a long time....:-S

 




Edited by cele1989 - 28 July 2011 at 2:41am

I have pet rats, and you'll only find that fur in the 'rex' variety (which is a special mutation that gives rats 'curly' fur'). otherwise rat fur is straight and stiff. the placement of the far hand is strange, i keep wanting to read it as a nose (and it would have an incredibly long arm for a rat if the hand is that far from the body). I still think he looks goofy with such a round head, but you never claimed you were making a 100% accurate rat. I also think there's too much mass in the butt.  there should be some clearance between the feet and butt so we can tell he's crouching on his haunches (right now the crouch is only evident in the upper body). also I'd consider making the half of the tail closest to the rump a bit thicker.