I wouldn`t say that your reception here is mediocre. PJ is just a much smaller site than deviantart, so you will get less traffic. And people here know more about it, so you will get less people worshiping you as well.

I mean, you have 32 favs on that piece, here, and I'm quite sure that it got into the weekly showcase? I'm by no means "good" at pixel art or maybe not even "decent", but you can add the favs I had on all my pieces since I joined all those years ago and it would still be less than that.

All in all, I'd say that your pixels are pretty well received here. Well deserved, too. But you just seem to be used to larger communities with more users commenting and faving your work, which isn't the case here, because we don't have so many active members.

I'm really surprised to see you write that, neo. I haven't been here very long, but in the four months I've been here, I don't remember any new members making such an impact so quickly. To be honest, when I see members like you, Melee, Celia and Hardrockangel, I tend to ask myself if being a girl gives you more attention, and I have to ask myself if I'd act the same way if I didn't know your gender. It can go both ways.

One of the best pixelartists I've seen on here, seems to be missing from your list of favourites. Very successful, even her stuff without robots and trucks.
http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/32832.htm

If the response you received was "mediocre", then I guess you'd describe the average response on PixelJoint as "abysmal". And if that's the case... well, hopefully your continued feedback on the forums and in the gallery will make a change. It has for me, at any rate.

As for the ratings... meh. A single constructive comment is worth more than any rating, for me.

PS: Congrats on the DD.


Edited by CELS - 29 August 2011 at 2:41pm

Not getting attention because you're not a guy? That's just stupid. No offense. First, you get attention, and second, why on earth that should possibly matter is just... What. It's an art site. We don't sit around comparing dick sizes. We make art. You do that too. Balls aren't needed to pixel.

I'm not trying to be rude at all, sorry if it comes off like that, I'm just a little surprised to hear that.

Yes, dA is easier to impress. I don't mind them giving you a DD at all - you are actually a good pixel artist, even if you're no Fool (but don't worry, nobody else is), and considering how most DDs are REALLY sh*tty pixel art pieces, yours is way above their level. Personally, I would've chosen your latest piece if I had to give you a DD. But that's not relevant, anyway.

And painting things that appeal to guys... Well, PJ does have a majority of males, and the voting is open to everyone. Each person votes based on their personal preferences. But you can just go look at past challenge wins. People don't win because they draw boobs, they win because they make good pixel art. Just keep what you're doing and you will win eventually. I know that I voted for all your challenge entries except for the villain one, and I will probably vote on the new one too. But it's a choice based on the quality of the actual piece, and not the scrotum you might or might not have.

Just give it some time. Things will get better. If you're feeling like nobody gives you the attention you deserve, just go to the newest pixel art and check some "bad" work that isn't by one of the most well known artists. They are lucky if they get one comment or two.

Anyway, keep making art, we all love to see your stuff, but before you start accusing people of being sexist or whatever, make sure they really are. Pixeljoint is no worse than the rest of the world.

I think you may have stepped on Lucas' point a bit there, Jal

Don't forget about Arachne, Jaeden, Morganne, MashPotato, Petrichor, Mirre, and Wayuki (in addition to the pixellers mentioned by greenraven and jal). There are plenty of good she-pixellers out there.

And I wouldn't say your art doesn't appeal as much to males. I wouldn't know you were a female if I hadn't been told so. You've got a piece utilizing an angle that emphasizes the breasts (your avvy), a piece with warriors and bones (Mistress, they are invading), and a piece with a skull and a gun (Lisbeth and rattlesnake).

I dunno how much 'girlie' subject matters as far as reception goes either. Wayuki has a fashionable doll with nearly 40 faves, Mirre has a pretty mermaid with 125 faves.

dA is easier to impress though, no getting around that. And they've got a much larger active member base. The number of faves/comments you've received is pretty high for PJ, and accurately reflects your skill level.

thanks cure and hapiel!

That's only been because you've been pushing the line you know better not to cross not because they weren't good or well drawn. Only that it blurred the pixelart/Oekaki/hybrid line, mkay.

@CELS, I was being sarcastic and failed to add >>>


Edited by jalonso - 30 August 2011 at 11:03am

Just wanted to chip in and say that I love what you do, and hope you don't change a thing about it. You're one of favorite new pixellers!

Frustrated? You (nor any of the new users) have nothing to be frustrated about. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in PJ's entire history whose 1st submission took nearly a year (give or take a couple of months) to get into the gallery. True story.

You know, looking back on it now I'm surprised I had such patience and determination once. These days I'd probably set something on fire by now.

You participated in some unsually good challenges, your quality would normally place on the podium. But don't worry...your most recent entry will place top-3 and probably win a trophy for August. And I'm sure that's just the first of many accolades to come if you keep pixellin'. I can tell you're a great artist and illustrator, and once you master the way of the pixel...you will be near unstoppable!

Why do you critisize your stuff so harsh. You do realize that there are exactly 29 entries to the challenge, and you expect to be in the top 3 immediately?


Please stop bothering yourself, as you start to bother me with it.

You can try to go for the top three with the challenges, but don't expect getting into the top three. Expecting and not getting it will lead to disappointment. The challenges should be a fun way of learning something new about pixel techniques and your own art. If you have an awards wall full with green ribbons, it shows that you go out of your comfort zone and try out different things which I think is more important than getting the top three :)

Some members would love if their works get as many favs and comments as yours have gotten, myself included. When I first started submitting stuff on pj, I soon learned that most people on here don't like pixel dolls since they use a base and the color count is mostly non-existent with dolls. Even knowing this, I still submitted my works on here.

Mastering something is going to take time so don't rush it. Just have fun and keep practicing. I'm sure you'll get there soon :3


Edited by wish04 - 05 September 2011 at 7:40pm

I would say something, but I think all the bases have been covered, so I'll just say:
Your stuff is great :D
and leave it at that

thank you Sooba

@greenraven There's no need to get hostile. This post began because I felt unwelcome in the first place. I don't understand what I'm looking at, on the link you sent.

Hostile, when did I get hostile? I thought I was being civil.

What you're looking at is a wall of green ribbons.



Each one of those is a person who didn't get a gold.







And trust me, if and when I get hostile, you'll know it.

edit:

Oh wait, are you talking about the zappy thing? Cuz that wasn't aimed at you silly.


Edited by greenraven - 07 September 2011 at 7:31am

Nobody said you should stop trying hard, but your art should speak for itself (which it does!!!) and not depend on the approval of others.

Just going to help build your self confidence: You are crazy to think you're unwelcomed. I congratulate you on your Daily Deviation on Deviantart, but the reason (As was already mentioned) you don't get as much shine on Pixeljoint has to do with the community being so small and also being more critical on what is done right. That piece that made the DD is great and I'm glad that it did because many of the work that comes from Deviantart (specifically pixel art) is crud and it only gets so much shine because it's either cute or some sort of fanart, rather technique and true ability. 30+ favourites on Pixeljoint is equivalent to 30,000+ favourites on deviantart if you want to compare the community sizes.

The whole gender thing is quite ridiculous. I don't see how that's relevant to anything.