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Mishok
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![]() Topic: My WIPs - add portrait of man, is it pixel art?Posted: 10 February 2013 at 10:12pm |
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Hi everybody. Hope you will exсuse my English. Private Mishok is here. And I begin my long way with Pixel Art by making my first iso work.
I am going to send my work to the site, and friedns tell, that I should refer to the forum for advice. Here is the picture So, how to make it better? Edited by Mishok - 30 May 2013 at 10:50pm |
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shaturu711
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![]() Posted: 10 February 2013 at 11:55pm |
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Wow! This looks great!
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 11 February 2013 at 1:47am |
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shaturu711, thanks! But I think there are some ways to make it better.
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Joseki
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![]() Posted: 11 February 2013 at 1:54am |
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Overall it looks ok, but here are a couple of things you may want to fix:
- The wheels are not perfectly round - There is no light source (or it seems to be from everywhere) |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 11 February 2013 at 12:17pm |
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Is there any good tutorial for isometric circles in vertical? I did the wheels like horizontal isometric circles, but vertical, and something went wrong. )
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 11 February 2013 at 1:13pm |
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Scroll down till you see a post by jeremy on the no0btorial thread HERE
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 11 February 2013 at 10:15pm |
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And one more thing I would like to understand. Removing most black outlines. What is the rules for it?
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 12 February 2013 at 7:14am |
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That's a design choice and there is no rule. Sometimes, like in a game, some will leave the outermost lines in black so they stand out from the play area.
Some don't use them at all. Some only do the outline. Some leave them all over. Do a search in the gallery for 'iso' and you'll see lots of examples. E: Its more important to keep color count low. You tend to use a lot.
Edited by jalonso - 12 February 2013 at 7:14am |
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Hapiel
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![]() Posted: 12 February 2013 at 9:18am |
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If you look at the real world, how many things have black outlines?
Now I think it is cool to cartoonize your drawing and outlines can be part of that, but they should not take over your picture. Why not use less lines, and if you use lines don't use black? Here is a quick example: ![]() @jal: Jeremys noobtorial is not really helping for the wheels right?... :( |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 12 February 2013 at 9:43pm |
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Joseki,jalonso, Hapiel, thanks friends! When I made this picture, I thought about the number of colors. But for the first time I decided not to limit their number. In the future I will try to work with a small palette (gb or nes, for exaple). Pict with shading is much better!
Jeremys noobtorial is good for horizontal circles (the wheel is lying on the floor), but in my case it stand. But I am trying to use this method. |
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 13 February 2013 at 8:19am |
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Its not about limiting yourself with colors. Its about just using what you need and no more. Whatever count it happens to be. Optimizing the palette is the goal.
Isometric is a numerical perspective so all curves and circles have the same ratio. Jeremy's angle is not the one you are using here but the formula is the same. Iso is 26.5 degrees. Making any circle, curve or organic form in isometric simply needs that degree to be correct, tho I find that it always looks kinda odd so I thin them out on the vertical by 20-25% for visual reading in my personal iso work.
Edited by jalonso - 13 February 2013 at 8:19am |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 21 February 2013 at 1:13pm |
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Thank you all for advise.
I added some shading. Try to change wheels. Here is new loco. Two questions. How are the wheels? Is there black outline at roof and top good or bad for you opinion?
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jalonso
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![]() Posted: 22 February 2013 at 5:52am |
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The wheels are worse now. That they are missing some depth does not help.
See THIS ref for a decent isometric circle.
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Mishok
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Joined: 18 December 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36 |
![]() Posted: 14 April 2013 at 5:20am |
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I had not log in a couple of weeks. Make some terible pictures and need tips.
First is the Horse. I was trying to add it at site, but it seems that "REVISION NEEDED BEFORE APPROVAL" So, how to make it better?
Next is some Viking warband. I have no idea about quality of it. Tryin to make concept model of fugure, and then make a variation. Maybe I should try a NES palette for it.
Next is the theme that I really love - old castle. This one is simple in 4 gameboy colors with some monograms ))) What can I do with it?
And the last is my secon iso project - mockup of Yaroslavl Glavny, the main railway station in Yaroslavl (old russian city where i was born). Original is here, for example
This is really WIP. A lot of work ahead. What do you think about it? Thank you for your advice and sorry for my English. Edited by Mishok - 14 April 2013 at 5:21am |
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Unhero
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![]() Posted: 15 April 2013 at 4:43am |
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Mishok, приветствую. Локомотив я бы подработал колёса, в остальном отлично.
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 15 April 2013 at 5:10am |
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Originally posted by Unhero
Mishok, приветствую. Локомотив я бы подработал колёса, в остальном отлично. Привет! С локомотивом бьюсь, чето не получается колёса в изометрии нормально сделать, то кривые, то глубина не та. Лошадь я в галерею кинул, но админы чёто не стали размещать, пишут что надо доработать. Вот и спрашиваю советов. |
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Unhero
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![]() Posted: 15 April 2013 at 5:24am |
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Originally posted by Mishok Originally posted by Unhero
Mishok, приветствую. Локомотив я бы подработал колёса, в остальном отлично. Привет! С локомотивом бьюсь, чето не получается колёса в изометрии нормально сделать, то кривые, то глубина не та. Лошадь я в галерею кинул, но админы чёто не стали размещать, пишут что надо доработать. Вот и спрашиваю советов. С колесами всё просто, посмотри ссылку от jalonso. Про лощадь - сгладь детали, она у тебя сильно квадратная получилась, в остальном, мне нравится. |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 15 April 2013 at 5:28am |
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Спасибо! А сгладить детали у лошади - это где и как?
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Unhero
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![]() Posted: 15 April 2013 at 5:44am |
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Originally posted by Mishok Спасибо! А сгладить детали у лошади - это где и как? Колеса можешь для примера тут глянуть http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/46883.htm , лошадку смотри, я тебе красным обвел у тебя изометрия страдает, полистай классические уроки, там это объясняется: ![]() Edited by Unhero - 15 April 2013 at 5:44am |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 17 April 2013 at 12:44pm |
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Yet another two WIP
Some brave viking in DB 16 colors http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12795
This is WH40 Adeptus Mechanicus Label for my avatar.
Make it in 4 colors. What do you think about that? Exuse me for white background - I did it all in MS Paint. P.S. My first Loko after a couple of month seems to be so big. ))) |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 21 May 2013 at 1:22am |
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Hi, all!
Trying to make some pictures for Gameboy Contest @ dA http://jamato-sun.deviantart.com/art/Spring-love-Gameboy-3000-points-pixel-contest-369057858 Game's mockup based on supermovie "The Expendables". Gameplay will be like "Contra Force 13" ))). So far I have done some menus.
What do you think about that? |
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 23 May 2013 at 5:36am |
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Make some chages and add a gameplay screen.
Please, give me some advises. |
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Unhero
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![]() Posted: 23 May 2013 at 6:44am |
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Из того, что заметил, кирпичи над игроком нужно сделать поинтереснее, еще ящики для вещей выглядят как-будто их просто мелом на стене нарисовали. Враг справа тоже какой-то плосковатый и без деталей. Экран выбора игрока мне очень понравился.
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 23 May 2013 at 6:48am |
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Спасибо! Это не кирпич, это типа вентиляции. Буду улучшать ещё геймплейный экран.
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Unhero
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![]() Posted: 23 May 2013 at 6:50am |
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Вентиляция обычно под потолком, лучше трубы там ещё дорисуй, или механизмы какие. Деталей побольше, картинка маленькая, любой пиксель будет не лишним.
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 24 May 2013 at 4:33am |
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Made some details for gameplay screen. How does it look?
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Mishok
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![]() Posted: 30 May 2013 at 10:49pm |
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Make a 4-color avatar with Ritchie Blackmore (guitarplayer and songwriter of Deep Purple, Rainbow and Blackmore's night). This is looks like my Expendable sketch.))
The question is - Is it pixel art?
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