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thoughtmachine
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Topic: Feedback for Mobile Suit Design
Posted: 31 January 2015 at 2:22pm

Can you guys give me some feedback on our Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design?

I am not sure how to shade the vents on the abdomen area.

Edited by thoughtmachine - 02 February 2015 at 7:36am

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RebeaLeion
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:06pm

Too much color banding! - everywhere.

Check out tutorials (both), very helpful:

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5692

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299

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thoughtmachine
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:22pm

Originally posted by RebeaLeion

Too much color banding! - everywhere.

Thanx, I am already aware of that.
The gradient tool is evil!

But when you are just beginning a piece, using gradients is a very helpful tool to access proper surface depths and overall design Q&A.

Naturally those gradients won't be there when the sprite is finished.

Originally posted by RebeaLeion

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5692

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299

I have already read those :)

Edited by thoughtmachine - 31 January 2015 at 3:33pm

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r1k
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 11:00pm

starting your shading with flat colors may be a better method than starting with gradients. For example, the bottom part of his chest could be dark, the front plane lighter, and the top plane lighter than that. Doing that would quickly establish those plane, whereas the gradients you have on the chest right now don't really do that and actually look pretty flat.

I've never drawn a mech before and don't think I'm the best one to give design advice, but I have 2 main issues with the design. First, the arms don't seem like they could rotate at the shoulders. Like they could only move forwards and backwards, which seems less cool. And I think overall the design is kind of boxy. Especially how the torso is perfectly rectangular and the arms are perfectly straight.

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thoughtmachine
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Posted: 02 February 2015 at 7:35am

Originally posted by r1k

starting your shading with flat colors may be a better method than starting with gradients.

It's easier for me to assess depth with a gradient than with a single flat color.

Originally posted by r1k

seem like they could rotate at the shoulders. Like they could only move forwards and backwards

If you look at the Transformers from G1 or the Gundam series most of the mecha have no ball joint in the shoulder and yet somehow they magically rotate on more than one axis. And I would admit, that is poor form.

These arms will only move forwards and backwards.
That is the intention.
This is for a 2D platform game.

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Posted: 02 February 2015 at 8:32pm

It's great if you've found a way to assess depth early on that works for you, but so we don't focus on it as an issue, can you please provide the next step in the process? Try continuing your work from where you are, and show us how you'll work in hand-drawn shading. If we can't help you because you're coming from a very different approach, you can teach us by showing what's going on in your head. :)

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thoughtmachine Seaman Joined: 31 January 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Topic: Feedback for Mobile Suit Design Posted: 31 January 2015 at 2:22pm
	Can you guys give me some feedback on our Pterodactyl Mobile Suit Design? I am not sure how to shade the vents on the abdomen area. Edited by thoughtmachine - 02 February 2015 at 7:36am
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RebeaLeion Commander Joined: 04 October 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 321	Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:06pm
	Too much color banding! - everywhere. Check out tutorials (both), very helpful: http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5692 http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299
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thoughtmachine Seaman Joined: 31 January 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:22pm
	*Originally posted by RebeaLeion* Too much color banding! - everywhere. Thanx, I am already aware of that. The gradient tool is evil! But when you are just beginning a piece, using gradients is a very helpful tool to access proper surface depths and overall design Q&A. Naturally those gradients won't be there when the sprite is finished. *Originally posted by RebeaLeion* http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5692 http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299 I have already read those :) Edited by thoughtmachine - 31 January 2015 at 3:33pm
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r1k Commander Joined: 01 April 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 336	Posted: 31 January 2015 at 11:00pm
	starting your shading with flat colors may be a better method than starting with gradients. For example, the bottom part of his chest could be dark, the front plane lighter, and the top plane lighter than that. Doing that would quickly establish those plane, whereas the gradients you have on the chest right now don't really do that and actually look pretty flat. I've never drawn a mech before and don't think I'm the best one to give design advice, but I have 2 main issues with the design. First, the arms don't seem like they could rotate at the shoulders. Like they could only move forwards and backwards, which seems less cool. And I think overall the design is kind of boxy. Especially how the torso is perfectly rectangular and the arms are perfectly straight.
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thoughtmachine Seaman Joined: 31 January 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5	Posted: 02 February 2015 at 7:35am
	*Originally posted by r1k* starting your shading with flat colors may be a better method than starting with gradients. It's easier for me to assess depth with a gradient than with a single flat color. *Originally posted by r1k* seem like they could rotate at the shoulders. Like they could only move forwards and backwards If you look at the Transformers from G1 or the Gundam series most of the mecha have no ball joint in the shoulder and yet somehow they magically rotate on more than one axis. And I would admit, that is poor form. These arms will only move forwards and backwards. That is the intention. This is for a 2D platform game.
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SuperTurnip Commander Joined: 29 March 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 301	Posted: 02 February 2015 at 8:32pm
	It's great if you've found a way to assess depth early on that works for you, but so we don't focus on it as an issue, can you please provide the next step in the process? Try continuing your work from where you are, and show us how you'll work in hand-drawn shading. If we can't help you because you're coming from a very different approach, you can teach us by showing what's going on in your head. :)
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